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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:14 PM
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Why did President Obama choose Rahm Emmanuel for his Chief of Staff?
What were his reasons? Help me understand. Seriously.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:15 PM
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1. Obama owed him... nt
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:16 PM
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2. To offend DUers?
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:16 PM
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they were BFFs in the Senate?
He's Obama's handler? Rahm has the dirt on ole Barry? Who knows?
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:28 PM
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11. Rahm Was A Congress Critter, Not Senator... But You Probably Know That...
Some others may not! Rahm, his brother Ari & Zeke have been part of Obama's "circle" for a very long time from what I've seen & heard!

Have never liked Rahm, but what put the real kabash on it was when he took credit for Howard Dean's "50-state strategy" as if it was his own! It was ALWAYS Dean who implemented it, it WAS RAHM who was GIVEN & TOOK credit for it! Not even mentioning Dean's implementation and actually dissing Dean at every turn!!

Obama probably KNOWS how Rahm operates, which in turn bothers me a lot!
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 05:11 PM
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35. Oh of course he knows, Unless he is too busy looking in
The mirror at his gorgeous uvula while pretending to give another mesmerizing speech.

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CBR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:16 PM
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3. I have no solid reasons but I have a sneaking suspicion it was
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 01:16 PM by CBR
a personal attack on the members of DU.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:17 PM
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4. Chess
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:19 PM
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5. I'd like to know, too -- good question. K&R to hope somebody comes along
who might be able to shed some light.

I don't know who else may have been considered -- his team served him so well during the elections, you'd think one of them would have been chosen. But maybe he felt comfortable with someone who had inside experience? :shrug:
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:19 PM
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6. Watch the way Obama operates. He always puts himself
a few feet away from his own corporatist policies, so he can deny connection to them. He did it on HCR with his, "let Congress work it out" nonsense, while working to shape the policy behind the scenes. He's doing it with the "Debt Commission" that will allow him to say the inevitable cuts to Medicare and Social Security were the result of a bipartisan Senate commission, etc., etc.

Rahm is the same thing. He's just a pair of tongs for handling politically radioactive elements.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:34 PM
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15. And here is the answer. n/t
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:02 PM
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27. Long story short: "good cop/bad cop" is one of Axelrod's only plays. nt
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Smashcut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 05:05 PM
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31. "a pair of tongs for handling politically radioactive elements"
Love this turn of phrase. Describes it perfectly and your post is spot-on...
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:20 PM
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7. NDC is part of DLC,
so it's not surprising a New Democrat President would select a DLC Chief of Staff.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:20 PM
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8. They knew each other well and share the same fundamental attitudes.
Important hint: they're both DLC to the core.

Liberals and progressives are just suckers to be shmoozed
for votes and then shoo'ed away as far and as fast as possible.

Tesha
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:32 PM
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12. Sigh. I'm beginning to think this is it, but I do keep getting shots of
encouragement when Obama speaks. I just don't WANT to believe it!

Many of us saw through other candidates, how could so many of us been snowed by Obama? (If this is indeed the case.)


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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:22 PM
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9. Shared ideology
Obama seems far more conservative (DLC) in private than we were led to believe he was during the campaign.
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 05:03 PM
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30. It was obvious, even during the campaign, what his true sentiments were.
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 05:07 PM by Tesha
Think back to the "mis-steps" about gays, how quickly he dumped former
friends and associates when they became inconvenient, and how quickly
he ascended to power on such a relatively-slim résumé.

There's good reason he was seventh on my list of eight.

But once he was the candidate, what choice did we really have? And
who among us could have turned away from the amazing historic
event that his election represented?

In 2012, on the other hand, I don't think I'll be able to hold my nose
that "one more time".

Tesha
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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:24 PM
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10. KKKkarl was busy? n/t
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golddigger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:33 PM
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13. Ouch! lol
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:55 PM
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22. dammit
you stole my punch line! :spank:

:rofl: :hi:
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:33 PM
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14. Probably the same reason Bush picked Cheney as VP—Cheney told him to.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:35 PM
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16. Because he thought that disrespecting his supporters himself would be seen as being an asshole.
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 01:36 PM by JVS
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:50 PM
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17. Hillary was the obvious DLC choice - she is DLC, just like Bill. A deal was made -
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 02:08 PM by peacetalksforall
she will step aside if Obama takes the DLC into the WH and everywhere else. His make-up was already DLC even if he may not have formally joined them - that is why I wasn't one of his fans. I swallowed hard and put all my hope on the fact that a minority member of this country was breaking through the ceiling and that he was so brilliant and persuasive. I never heard him make an anti-war statement. I never heard him say anything that comforted me in regard to war. I didn't like some of his votes. But, it's war where it all starts and ends for me. He has failed miserably, but how do you stop the war machine when there is so much money to be made.

If he betrays the people that came out to vote for him and celebrate his win, we are in trouble. It will be the end of any attempt at voting integrity. It will also reflect in the opinion of the U.S. world wide. He has a great burden on him - justify the Nobel Peace Prize, appease the DLC who are really Republicans.

It's not all just about him. It's what he does to make us strong or weak. By 'us' being strong or weak, I mean the people, not the corporations. By 'us' I mean of, for, and by the people. Not the corporations. It's all about our privacy and voting. What has he done about voting integrity - ever?
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:57 PM
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24. That's kind of what I suspected.
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Duende azul Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 05:39 PM
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39. + 1
That's what I always thought. Hillary was set to remain in the race until Obama accepted certain conditions.
She could have ruined the whole thing. And sometimes she was close to ruin it even for both.
Well that's the well meaning thought towards Obama.

But maybe it was all a scripted play? And a good exciting one at that.

A third possibility: someone made it clear to Obama what personal consequences he may face if he dares to touch the foundations and mechanisms of wealth and power distribution in America. Rahm is the watchdog to keep him from stepping out of line. But that's tinfoil territory. And no one would like to go there. Or would we?

If you exclude all of the above: Obama is really doing now what he wanted to do.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:50 PM
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18. Illinois
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:51 PM
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19. "New" Democrat. nt
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:51 PM
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20. Unfortunately (for us) Chicago-style politics doesn't translate to the national stage.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 05:42 PM
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40. Sure they do. They're the same politics that elected Bill Clinton. n/t
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Gold Metal Flake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:53 PM
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21. Shared ideology.
Obama's first year is what he wanted. Face it. The appearance of impasse serves the corporations. It's by design. He is not acting like FDR because being FDR is not his agenda. He is not directly challenging the Republicans because directly challenging the Republicans is not his agenda. He is expanding the wars because ending the wars is not his agenda. He left the Bush fed attorneys in place because dismantling the Bush anti-Justice system is not his agenda. He chose the Wall Street insiders because he wants Wall Street insiders.

If you simply realize that the way Obama has governed is the way Obama has chosen to govern it all makes sense.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:55 PM
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23. IMO, Obama WAS concerned about how much he needed to know and tapped Rahm for Clinton-era experience
and tapped a whole pack of other Clintonites, as well. No surprise he's governing from center-right. Just like Clinton.

This nation NEEDED a HUGE shift left, not more of the failed triangulation that allowed a Bush2 to emerge.
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SlingBlade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:00 PM
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25. Why ? Because the powers that be TOLD him too.
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 02:01 PM by SlingBlade
But lets be clear here, The buck stops at the presidents desk.
Just as it should have with Bush.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:02 PM
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26. I have to assume because they generally agree and he felt Rahm would be
a good set of hands to accomplish his bidding.

:puke:
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:04 PM
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28. Because Obama hates you. n/t
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Tesha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 05:16 PM
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36. 'Damn shame he'll need our votes in 2012, ehh? And maybe even in 2010. (NT)
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:27 PM
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29. That position in the past is pretty much an indication of a person
who shares closely the Presidents values. Most of all Intense
trust in this person by the President.

I assume the same holds. Obama has high degree of trust and
they share the same vision and values.

It would make no sense otherwise for this position. Too important.
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ProgressIn2008 Donating Member (848 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 05:07 PM
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32. Because he wanted to and Rahm was what he was looking for. nt
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 05:08 PM
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33. Because he knows how to use his "sharp elbows" against liberals?

Is this a quiz?
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d_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 05:10 PM
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34. because he's a hardass who takes no shit
he'll show those republicans who's boss!
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 05:18 PM
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37. He'll show 'em all right
Show 'em we can outconservative them any day.
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 05:38 PM
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38. Obama was told to by Mayor Daley to whom he is beholden.
Rahm is a long time Daley guy and Daley wanted to make sure things didn't get too out of control in DC.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 05:43 PM
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41. Chicago political machine cronies?
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 05:44 PM
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42. Every boss needs muscle
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