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fl_dem Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:52 PM
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Tebow and the anti-choice Super Bowl ad
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 02:26 PM by fl_dem
IMO, the Super bowl is NOT the place for an anti-choice ad. No captive audience should be hijakced and exposed to a religous and or moral rant. I would rather some actor try to sell me crap flavored kool-aid then sit and listen to 30 seconds of Tebows mom go on about HER Choice while the corporation paying millions for the ad is trying to take my choice away. __________________________________________________________________________________________
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All the national networks, including CBS, have policies that rule out the broadcast of certain types of contentious advocacy ads. In 2004, CBS cited such a policy in rejecting an ad by the liberal-leaning United Church of Christ highlighting the UCC's welcoming stance toward gays and others who might feel shunned by more conservative churches.

CBS was criticized for rejecting that ad - and perhaps might have worried about comparable criticism from conservatives if it had rejected an ad featuring such a charismatic and well-known figure as Tebow.
You can send formatted or custom emails to CBS and its other sponsors on your disapproval of the placement of Tebow’s Focus on the Family anti-choice ad via the link.

Tebow says, "I know some people won't agree with it, but I think they can at least respect that I stand up for what I believe,"
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http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/articles/2010/01/25/20100125tebow-controversial-tv-ad.html#comments
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Well, I don't agree though I do respect what he believes and I will stand up for what I believe as well, you can too:

The below link offers form emails you can send or customize your own to the CBS/execs, NFL and Super bowl sponsors.

The formatted letter includes:

"By offering one of the most coveted advertising spots of the year to an anti-equality, anti-choice, homophobic organization, CBS is aligning itself with a political stance that will damage its reputation, alienate viewers, and discourage consumers from supporting its shows and advertisers".

http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/o/937/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=2090
edited to update link
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:55 PM
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1. I wouldn't mind it being aired if CBS hadn't been against airing other political ads in the past.
They should be able to air this, but other groups should be able to as well.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:57 PM
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3. Yeah, I wonder if Greenpeace or Planned Parenthood or Amnesty International are allowed
to air commercials on the Super Bowl?
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fl_dem Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:03 PM
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4. CBS is taking this stance
Hands over ears, eyes closed, you knwo, the typical RW stance.

"There's nothing political and controversial about it," he said. "When the day arrives, and you sit down to watch the game on TV, those who oppose it will be quite surprised at what the ad is all about." They are just celebrating families:

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/12837686/cbs-urged-to-scrap-super-bowl-ad-featuring-tebow
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:19 PM
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8. Yes, I've learned long ago us lefties don't count in the minds of the media.
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fl_dem Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:47 PM
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13. we're not as profitable n/t
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:50 PM
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16. That, and the fact that a few of the righties can come unhinged and do something like kill a Dr.
or bomb a clinic. I think an unspoken fear of the right is at work in the media as much as money in some cases.
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fl_dem Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:57 PM
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18. You have a great point there
Everyone knows not to mess with the crazy person....
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nykym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:20 PM
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9. It would seem that
they in fact have their hands over ears eyes closed and email shut down. I tried to send the letters from the link in the OP and they all failed.
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fl_dem Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:22 PM
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11. oh no, it worked when i used it
it sent 30 seperate emails to involved parties...
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fl_dem Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:24 PM
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12. try this:
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nykym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 09:59 AM
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39. Thanks
Worked that time. All sent out.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:56 PM
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2. I watch football to escape reality...
being hit over the head with a rw'ers ad is not my idea of leisure.

And we know that if a pro-choice ad was run to balance it out, all hell would break loose in the Kingdom.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:03 PM
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:16 PM
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6. No cause is too right-wing for Big Media to push
ref: Path To 9/11. OTOH, an innocuous ad like the UCC one is way too radical
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:17 PM
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7. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why I posted this:
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fl_dem Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:20 PM
Response to Reply #7
10. So true!!!
I'm afraid this is just the tip of the iceberg!
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:49 PM
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14. Tebow is a Douche
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 02:58 PM by Froward69
he may have the Heisman. However chatting with a sports nut friend of mine. this add is the closest Tebow will ever get to appearing at the Super Bowl. like Vinny Testaverde.

He will not be as grand as the right says he will... just Because of his story.

Think Vinny Testaverde, as Vinny was still an even better QB than Tebow... and a loser at that.
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fl_dem Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:54 PM
Response to Reply #14
17. lol- I live in FL and find the majority of Gator fans
to be utterly obnoxious. I'm just waiting for them to pin some wings and sainthood on him.
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rudy23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 03:56 PM
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27. Timmy better speak up soon, b/c his days as a football celeb are over once he goes undrafted
Spoken as a fan of the team that drafted Danny Wuerffel.
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retread Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 04:42 PM
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33. Better he be drafted by a team with a shitty o-line. n/t
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 11:36 AM
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42. Agreed.
I don't see Tebow in the NFL for long. For every Peyton Manning, there are a dozen Danny Wuerffels.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:49 PM
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15. When you're writing, be sure and mention that 44 American million women
between the ages of 25-44 identify as "avid" NFL fans. This is most likely the reason behind the NFL's recent "breast cancer awareness" activity in October.

I'm sure it won't be lost on those here that that's also a demographic marketers seem to like. In other words, any type of boycott or national attention will most likely put the brakes on Mr. Tebow and his mother.

Just sayin'.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:57 PM
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:59 PM
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20. between the go daddys having women rip shirts open and this guy about abortions
i think says a lot about where we are today.
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 03:28 PM
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21. The companies whose ads appear before and after Tebow's ad...
should be subjected to serious negative feedback.

CBS is run by plutocratic wingnut assholes. There is no hope for them. I suggest that we get their advertisers mad at them for subjecting them to such negative feedback.

Of course, we won't know till showtime what companies those are, but they might be pissed at CBS for putting them in such a position.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 05:31 PM
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37. I believe they are having trouble
finding people to buy ads. A lot of main stay Super Bowl ad buyers aren't buying in the down economy. So perhaps that explains some of CBS decisions to not pull an ad? Either way I know I wouldn't want my ad coming anywhere near something that political. Not for the $$ I'm paying CBS to air my ad.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 03:40 PM
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22. CBS says "We rule the playground. NYAHHH NYAHHHH!"
Equitable rules for sponsorship? We don't need no stinking equitable rules for sponsorship.

Thanks for the link, definitely a letter that needs to be sent.

Can't believe there aren't more votes and replies here. Sure, it's not the issue that the SCOTUS decree is, or the HCR, it's only women's lives and the CORRUPT CONSERVATIVE media-corp infrastructure, (who by the way make handsome profits using women as sexy bait, especially during sports programming. But don't get me started...)



goddammit, I'm so fed up with conservative corporatism. :mad:
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fl_dem Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 04:24 PM
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32. I know, I feel the same way
the hypocrisy, the audacity of the right never ceases to amaze me, you'd think we be used to by now, but I'm kinda glad I'm not!
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 04:51 PM
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34. I'll never get used to it
but I sure am sick of the feelings of rage/nausea/desires for retaliation/outrage/heartburn/brain explosions.

I'm beginning to have feelings of wanting to move to Sweden. Hmmmm......
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Obamanaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 03:48 PM
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23. On the teevee that we have, there is an on/off button, a means to
change the channel, we have doors through which we can exit - any number of means so that we will not be prisoners.

I don't understand this line of the OP "...No captive audience should be hijakced (sic) and exposed to ..."

We stopped watching broadcast teevee last Feb when we discovered that the signal is so weak where we live the digital converter box wouldn't pull it in.

We have netflix, music, and books now - but we are not a captive audience to any of these three.
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fl_dem Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 04:04 PM
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29. I agree with ones ability to choose,
that’s my whole point, but for CBS to run an ad for a divisive topic as this one is wrong especially when it claims neutrality. Captive audience may have been a strong discriptor, I was making a point, one you obviously took literaly.

BTW, I don't have cable, nor do I have an antennae nor digital converter, my TV is used strictly to watch DVD's. I am an avid reader, player of cards, walker, listener to good music, conversationalist, etc.....so I can relate to what you are getting at. I go to a sports bar or a friends house when there is a game I just can't miss, needless to say, no remote in my hands to change channel. to do what you imply I would have to get up and leave the room at every commercial break. I could simply ignore the message, I'm well versed in that method of avoidance, did it for 8 years when Bush came on the tube....but a Super Bowl Game, c'mon!
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emdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 03:52 PM
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24. The Right-Wing message has really been taken too far
I actually had a woman tell me that she would not terminate a TUBAL PREGNANCY. Now, that's just stupid but that's how far their vote-getting-propaganda has been taken.
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fl_dem Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 04:11 PM
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30. well then I guess that would be jesus way
of telling her she didn't need to be reproducing as a loss of life or fallopian tubes would surely put a damper on her fertility.
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emdee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 06:01 PM
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38. I think it is the Republican Party telling her those things
and claiming that it was a message from above.
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:41 AM
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41. It's really sad how many of them
don't know jack shit about their own bodies.

I mentioned this a few months ago, about a friend who, at the age of 67, did NOT know that the urethra and vagina were two separate openings.

And she has three grown children.



unbelievable in this day and age...
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 03:55 PM
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25. Sorry Jesus Tebow and CBS, non partisan means exactly that.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 03:56 PM
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26. Let 'Em Waste Their Money...
Here's hoping the game's a blow-out early...and they're slotted in the middle of the 4th quarter.

Most people are there to be entertained, not lectured or shamed. Minds are very set on this issue and I doubt few minds, if any, would be changed...if anything, there could be a negative backlash.

The real game here is hoping the "news media"...the cables will take the ad and run it over and over...get a lot of free publicity.

I'd rather see them piss this money down the rathole than to fund some anti-choice or anti-gay marriage movement.
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fl_dem Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 04:12 PM
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31. good point! n/t
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 04:03 PM
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28. if they hadn't rejected the United Church of Christ ad, I would support the ad
I don't support Focus on the Family's message, of course, but their right to run it (even though I think it would be spectacularly unsuccessful. People watch the Super Bowl ads specifically because they're funny and entertaining; this ad sounds like it would put a giant politically charged damper on any Super Bowl party. Smooth move, Focus on the Family).

But if CBS is going to pick and choose which ads are acceptable to them, that is an entirely different issue. Fie on them.
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graywarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 05:18 PM
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35. They've just improved their ratings
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 05:24 PM
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36. I first heard of this story this morning
And the tease to the story was that many women are upset at a Super Bowl ad that is scheduled to air. All I could think of is how many ads that run during football are just down-right hateful toward women. Then when I heard that it was an anti-choice ad my thoughts were confirmed.
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CBR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 10:00 AM
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40. I could care less about this ad. Double standards -- of course but I
just cannot get worked up over Tebow (whose 15 minutes has expired).
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 11:58 AM
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43. this should open the door for United Church of Christ and PETA next year, right?
two groups denied in the past...
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fl_dem Donating Member (444 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-27-10 01:29 PM
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44. one would think so, however it wouldn't surprise me that if
next year they will take their neutrality stance once again.
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