Blair just said the MOST important thing about Abu Ghraib was....

Solly Mack

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Fri Jan-29-10 11:34 AM
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Blair just said the MOST important thing about Abu Ghraib was....

"It hurt our cause" (you know, spreading democracy)

...and that the "cause" shouldn't be judged by the actions of a "few" (bad apples)...as if torture wasn't implemented by the US government

as if members of the UK government didn't know widespread torture was taking place...as if UK intelligence wasn't involved.

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monmouth

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Fri Jan-29-10 11:38 AM
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1. It almost sounds like he had a phone conv with Cheeeney last night...n/t

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spanone

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Fri Jan-29-10 11:40 AM
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2. i wouldn't doubt that for a second.

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Solly Mack

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Fri Jan-29-10 11:40 AM
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3. The talking points have gone out

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sabrina 1

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Fri Jan-29-10 11:46 AM
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4. As if torture wasn't a despicable business that is ongoing.

And as long as there are people here and in Britain who defend it, and their governments refuse to put an end to it and excuse it, and hold accountable those responsible for it, they are no better than the terrorists and the dictators they point fingers at.

I'm sure Blair will suffer no consequences for his war crimes. But he will go down in history as a man who followed the US president into an illegal war that killed over one million people.

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Solly Mack

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Fri Jan-29-10 11:48 AM
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5. Have you been watching his testimony? He skipped slick and went straight to slimy.

He was very dismissive of the torture itself.

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sabrina 1

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Fri Jan-29-10 12:02 PM
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10. I haven't seen much of his testimony today. Started watching

last night ~ I know how good he is at deflecting criticism and arguing down those who disagree with him. I am not surprised that he would try to make light of torture. He probably knew about it all along.

History will be the judge of these war criminals because I doubt they will be held accountable in this life-time, sadly.

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EFerrari

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Fri Jan-29-10 11:54 AM
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6. Spreading democracy with torture and death.

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Solly Mack

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Fri Jan-29-10 11:58 AM
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9. Now, now. Let's not judge his good faith intentions by a few..er...mistakes

Seriously...that's almost Blair's entire defense.

Well, that and 911 changed everything...he actually said that...911 changed everything...and that he acted in "good faith"

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EFerrari

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Fri Jan-29-10 12:02 PM
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11. If there were a god, Blair would have been struck by lightening by now.

Edited on Fri Jan-29-10 12:58 PM by EFerrari

On Amy's show today, a dad describes surviving the Nisoor Square massacre. His nine year old son didn't survive. Scahill did the report.

I hate this bastard.

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Solly Mack

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Fri Jan-29-10 12:20 PM
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19. I've been keeping up with that.

Today's read was especially sad. :(

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madokie

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Fri Jan-29-10 12:12 PM
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16. At the end of a gun

little do they know that it doesn't quite work that way. After listening to his testimony today there is no doubt about the poodle reference to him

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Ian David

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Fri Jan-29-10 11:54 AM
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7. By "a few bad apples" he means The Bush Administration and The Blair Administration. n/t

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Solly Mack

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Fri Jan-29-10 11:56 AM
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8. Good one!

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malaise

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Fri Jan-29-10 12:05 PM
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12. In Blair's world those tortured brown people

are irrelevant

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Solly Mack

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Fri Jan-29-10 12:07 PM
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13. just a necessary sacrifice for the greater good & all that

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marylanddem

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Fri Jan-29-10 12:08 PM
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14. Blair is a smarmy accomplice to the Iraq debacle

Just listening to his smug self-satisfied voice infuriates me.

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Solly Mack

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Fri Jan-29-10 12:14 PM
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18. I agree wholeheartedly.

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polly7

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Fri Jan-29-10 12:12 PM
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15. Blair lies. A lot.

Army faces new inquiry on Iraq torture deaths

By Danny Brierley

The MoD agreed to pay the family of Baha Mousa �3m in compensation

"An announcement this week of a new public inquiry into fresh allegations of torture against British troops will heap further pressure on the British Army and the Government regarding abuse in Iraq."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/army-faces-new-inquiry-on-iraq-torture-deaths-1825548.html

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Solly Mack

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Fri Jan-29-10 12:13 PM
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17. He damn sure is and he did a lot of lying today too.

Thanks for the link!!!!

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glitch

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Fri Jan-29-10 01:27 PM
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20. Zombies aren't known for their truth-telling. nt

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Solly Mack

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Fri Jan-29-10 03:16 PM
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21. Video

http://www.iraqinquiry.org.uk/

at about the 143.25-145.00 mark

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gratuitous

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Fri Jan-29-10 03:50 PM
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22. Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, what did you think of the play?

Probably doesn't have quite the same impact in the UK, but that's what I thought of immediately.

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G_j

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Fri Jan-29-10 04:26 PM
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23. I heard him last night on BBC radio

war criminal

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