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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:54 PM
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Why is Lindsay Graham SOOOO adamant that KSM not be tried inside the U.S.?
What is this guy's problem? Why is he so dead-set against Khalid Sheik Muhammed being tried in a civilian court inside the United States? So much so that he would introduce legislation to prevent it:

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/78857-gop-lawmakers-to-try-to-block-federal-funds-for-911-prosecutions


Amid fears that the White House may move the terrorist trials connected with September 11, 2001, to the Washington, D.C., region, GOP lawmakers are planning to introduce legislation that would bar the use federal funds for their prosecution in any U.S. civilian court.

The move comes as the White House, met with growing opposition, has reportedly begun considering alternative locations to the originally planned federal district court in downtown Manhattan to try the professed 9/11 “mastermind” Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and four co-defendants.

The legislation expected to be introduced early next week is sponsored by Rep. Frank Wolf (R-Va.), whose district borders Washington, D.C., and Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), and would prohibit funding for any Justice Department prosecution in civilian courts of a person being tried in connection with the 9/11 attacks.

Earlier this week, Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.) introduced a similar bill that would prohibit the use of federal funds to try within U.S. civilian courts any detainee being kept in the Guantanamo Bay prison.

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http://thehill.com/homenews/house/78857-gop-lawmakers-to-try-to-block-federal-funds-for-911-prosecutions


These people are fighting really, REALLY, hard to keep KSM out of the U.S. and out of a civilian court. I wonder why that is...?

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hobbit709 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:56 PM
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1. What's he got to hide?
Cui bono?
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:56 PM
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2. Cause he's scared of the swarthy peoples.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:57 PM
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3. republican cowards...
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:58 PM
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4. I think he's afraid of what may come out in the testimony.
I'm guessing they'll seal most it, though.
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PhilosopherKing Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:58 PM
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5. More election year politics
Expect more in the months to come.
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 12:59 PM
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6. Because the man has been tortured.
That means he's liable to 'get off' or be repatriated or something like that.......and the evidence of torture will be there for all to see.

That would be evidence of war crimes, via the Geneva Convention.

The man is a snake, and he's protecting the BFEE.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:01 PM
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7. Here is why
Edited on Tue Feb-02-10 01:04 PM by NNN0LHI
http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/05/28/flashback-torture-photos/

Flashback: Torture photos depict ‘rape and murder,’ Sen. Graham said in 2004

By Stephen C. Webster

Published: May 28, 2009

In spite of the White House and Pentagon’s synchronized rebuttal to an explosive story by the Daily Telegraph alleging the White House is suppressing images of prisoners’ sexual abuse, almost nothing about the paper’s Thursday morning report was new, least of all the charges of rape.

“The American public needs to understand, we’re talking about rape and murder here,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), telling reporters in 2004 why the Abu Ghraib photos should not be released as former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld faced calls for his resignation. “We’re not just talking about giving people a humiliating experience. We’re talking about rape and murder and some very serious charges.”

The allegations leveled by Major General Antonio Taguba in Thursday’s Telegraph fall almost precisely in line with what was learned in 2004 following the first news and fallout from the Abu Ghraib torture scandal.

Latest: US journalist ‘confirms’ abuse photos included images of sodomy, oral sex

Even Rumsfeld called the recorded abuse “cruel,” “inhuman” and “blatantly sadistic.”

“Further photographs are said to depict sexual assaults on prisoners with objects including a truncheon, wire and a phosphorescent tube,” reported the Telegraph.

A military report, filed by General Taguba in 2004, described a prisoner being sodomized by a chemical light.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:04 PM
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8. The MIC cant make money if terrorism is put back into the hands of law enforcement
The GOP (and some cowardly conservative Dems) are trying to keep the issue in the hands of the military, and trying them as criminals wont provide the needed cover of military response they need to continue funneling uncounted billions into the MIC.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:04 PM
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9. If the fight against Terrorism is not considered a "War" but a Criminal matter
It would be almost as bad as if a black man were to be successful when the white man was not.. It would be devastating to the Republicans..
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jaysunb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:06 PM
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10. I think we all know the answer to that.
Edited on Tue Feb-02-10 01:09 PM by jaysunb
Any half ass lawyer could present enough evidence to acquit him of most of the major charges based on the illegal torture alone. In a fair trial all the government evidence would be promptly thrown out and there'd be nothing to try him for.

So much for American justice. :evilfrown:

BTW: Graham is a former military lawyer, and he knows the above is true, but he and most politicians are complicit in this little deviation of international law...
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:07 PM
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11. He knows that the Bush-Cheney terrorists would be tempted to launch an attack.
Edited on Tue Feb-02-10 01:08 PM by BurtWorm
:patriot:

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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:32 PM
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12. I wonder why nobody asks these guys who insist that this is a war
and the perps not be tried in civilian courts

Why aren't we keeping the prisoners in POW camps, where they are allowed the rights and privileges afforded to POWS under the Geneva Conventions?

If they are POWs, we can't torture for information. We can't withhold communication from the outside. We can't try them for war crimes. Doing those things are war crimes themselves.

Our laws provide for one or the other - either they are prisoners of war, and afforded the rights of such, or they are criminals and are to be treated under the law as such. There is no third way.

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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:34 PM
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13. here is the mayor of new york city in NOVEMBER
“I support the Obama Administration’s decision to prosecute 9/11 terrorists here in New York. It is fitting that 9/11 suspects face justice near the World Trade Center site where so many New Yorkers were murdered. We have hosted terrorism trials before, including the trial of Omar Abdel-Rahman, the mastermind of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.

“When I spoke to Attorney General Holder earlier today, I told him New York City stands ready to assist the federal court in the administration of justice in any way necessary. I have great confidence that the NYPD, with federal authorities, will handle security expertly. The NYPD is the best police department in the world and it has experience dealing with high-profile terrorism suspects and any logistical issues that may come up during the trials.”
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:38 PM
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14. Because he is a coward
a craven coward
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butterfly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:42 PM
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15. Protecting..
Bush/Cheney and other RepubliCONS..
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 01:56 PM
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16. Cause Lindsey Graham is the biggest coward around.
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ChickMagic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 02:01 PM
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17. He's a pants pisser
and he's aiming for freeper cred.
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