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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 06:56 PM
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DNC *ADMITS* they gave $500,000 of YOUR donations to air anti-HCR ads
via Markos:

Who gave the cash to the Nebraska Democratic Party? Well, if you've donated to the Democratic National Committee this cycle, you did.

That's right, the Democratic Party paid for ads attacking health care reform, for an incumbent senator who isn't even up for reelection until 2012, and for a senator who has made it his life mission to stymie every significant item in the Obama/Democratic agenda. The same Ben Nelson that fought hard to include regressive anti-choice language in the Senate bill, backing off only when Democrats agreed to pay him off with $100 million for Nebraska's Medicaid expansion.

This is the same Ben Nelson that cut $60 billion in school reconstruction funds in last year's stimulus plan, and the same Ben Nelson that has signed on to the odious Murkowski amendment that would prevent the EPA from regulating greenhouse gasses. And of course, the same Ben Nelson that stripped the health care reform bill of any meaningful cost constraints.

The DNC has denied a deal to fund the ads in exchange for his vote (along with putting American taxpayers on the hook for his state's Medicaid expansion).

“We, the Democratic Party, were defending a Democratic senator from attacks from the health insurance industry and other special interests for his support of reform. Senator Nelson is not the first Democrat we have defended from these attacks and he will not be the last. We've spent money directly in support of House Democrats who have supported reform in the form of TV and radio ads and we've also worked with state parties to defend Democrats like Senators Nelson, Lincoln and Dorgan who have stood up to the insurance industry in support of reform,” said DNC spokesman Hari Sevugan.
What a laughable piece of shit response. The health insurance industry was attacking Nelson? He was their biggest champion!

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/2/2/832982/-DNC-funds-paid-for-anti-HCR-Nelson-ads
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 06:57 PM
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1. Wow I have no words
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lib_wit_it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 01:30 AM
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28. +!
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 07:00 PM
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2. This is why those organizations aren't getting anything from me in the
future until they start backing real Democrats and progressive causes.
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 07:00 PM
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3. There are now more straws on this camels back.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 07:03 PM
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 07:04 PM
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5. Not ONE more dime Gov. Kaine!
:mad:
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 07:06 PM
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6. How were those "anti-HCR" ads?
From the part you posted here it looks like they paid for ads to defend Nelson. You and Markos would rather have them not do so? It was the Chamber of Commerce that was running the anti-HCR ads.

Because Nelson was still such a putz that means the DNC encouraged him to be a putz? I don't understand the complaint here, except a seeming desire to be hyperbolic and attack everything that Democrats do.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 07:29 PM
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11. Put me on ignore so you don't have to see me "attack everything Democrats do".
i will certainly do the same, enough already with your bullshit.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 08:02 PM
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21. such a substantive response
it seems elementary to me. Democrats needed to defend Nelson in order to pass a bill. How would it have helped if they had not done so? The only way Nelson stays in office is by distancing himself from the left, which is kinda tough in Nebraska where they thought, many of them, that Bob Kerrey was a raving liberal.
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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 07:36 PM
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15. What Bluebear said
I am putting you on ignore, it is probably for the best that you do the same.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 07:44 PM
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18. Thank you.
Our stomaches will sit easier from now on :)
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 08:04 PM
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22. that would be sorta pointless
first, because I cannot remember ever seeing one of your posts in the past. Second, because if you are not replying to me, then chances are I will not reply to you, or at worst I will kick one of your OPs to the top of the page and why would you want me to NOT do that?
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Ignis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 01:54 PM
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36. One step ahead of you.
:thumbsup:
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 01:25 AM
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27. What Bluebear said.
Might as well put me on ignore too and I'll do the same.
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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 07:07 PM
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7. WTF ???...n/t
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 07:07 PM
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8. There's no possible way Ben Nelson is the ONLY kind of senator we could elect in Nebraska
And if he was, why would it be worth BOTHERING?

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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 07:15 PM
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9. Could Tim Kaine actually be a worse DNC chair than Terry McUseless?
I didn't think it was possible to be weaker than that assclown, but Timmy seems to have pulled it off.

God damn this party needs Howard Dean back. Desperately. :evilfrown:
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 07:27 PM
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10. What you said. +1
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whathehell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 01:31 PM
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30. What he and you said. +3
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 07:36 PM
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14. Tim who? n/t
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 07:30 PM
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12. A perfect example why it's smart to give to individual candidates
Democrats can be their own worse enemy. I wonder just what else is involved here that we'll never find out about.

Boy, I miss the common sense brilliance of Gov. Dean.
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Starry Messenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 07:31 PM
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13. Odious. n/t
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 07:38 PM
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16. Tim Kaine is a piece of shit
Howard Dean would have never done this crap.

oh gack! this freak is DLC!

http://www.dlc.org/ndol_ci.cfm?contentid=253735&kaid=106&subid=122

By Gov. Tim Kaine
Building on the popularity of Gov. Mark Warner, Kaine offered voters a compelling personal story, a shrewd suburban strategy, and a clear vision for Virginia's future. He won strong in a red state.
Table of Contents


I am honored to be serving as the 70th governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia. How I got to the governor's mansion is a story that may be of interest to other Democrats, especially given the daunting challenges my campaign faced.

For starters, I ran in a state that President Bush had won by 8 percentage points in 2004. In addition, I began with a 21-point name identification deficit and lagged behind in every poll -- sometimes by double digits -- until September 2005, only two months before the election. Finally, I was targeted by an unprecedented series of negative attack ads and was financially out-raised and outspent through most of the contest.

Yet I won the popular vote by a margin of 6 points and more than 113,000 voters. I attribute my victory to three factors: the exceptional popularity of Gov. Mark Warner, my predecessor and partner over the past four years; my campaign's understanding of Virginia's changing demographics; and my ability to speak directly to voters and offer them a positive vision for our future.

As a candidate in 2001, Warner had offered voters a compelling story. He was a successful businessman who wanted to use his boardroom expertise to fix a government so badly mismanaged that the Republican governor and the Republican state legislature couldn't even reach agreement on a state budget. After four years at the helm, Warner was given great credit for enacting record spending cuts, thus preserving Virginia's sterling credit rating. He also enacted historic bipartisan budget reform and earned the ranking of Best-Managed State from Governing magazine. Warner's approval rating grew to a record 80 percent.

Voters in 2005 understood that Virginia was much better off than it had been four years earlier. At the same time, voters were anxious about the direction the country was going under Republican management. The voters also knew that I, as lieutenant governor, had worked closely with Governor Warner, while my opponent, Jerry Kilgore, the state attorney general, had fought against him on practically everything.

Just as Warner had done in 2001, I had to accomplish three things to win in a red state. First, I had to find and energize Democratic voters. Second, I had to share my story with the voters. Third, I had to reach out to independent and Republican voters in a strategic way. And that's exactly what we did.

The generally positive feelings Democrats had heading into the election made them easier to energize. This was a significant contrast to Republican voters, whose enthusiasm was dampened by dissatisfaction with the Bush administration, various Washington scandals, and criticism over the response to Hurricanes Katrina and Rita. In Virginia, Kilgore was failing to excite his Republican base. That lack of enthusiasm was highlighted last summer, when, in the GOP primary, nearly 20 percent of Republican voters supported Kilgore's little-known and underfinanced challenger.

To find and turn out Democrats, we identified and targeted a group we labeled as "federal Democrats" -- people who vote in presidential election years but typically stay home during statewide elections. A quick examination of the last few election cycles illustrates just how significant that block of voters is.

In 2001, Mark Warner won the governor's race by a margin of 4.5 percentage points. Three years later, John Kerry lost Virginia by 8 points. But Kerry received almost half a million more votes than Warner. We spared little, in terms of time and attention, to reach these voters, knowing they would vote for us if we got them to show up at the polls.

I also thought it was important to tell my personal story and share my values and motivation with voters. After all, a candidate who fails to clearly define himself will be defined by his opponent's attacks.

I wanted to explain to people how my faith and my heart for public service, formed while serving as a missionary in Central America, inspire me to seek public office. As a law student at Harvard 25 years ago, I found myself with a lot of options but little direction. I decided to take off a year and work with Catholic missionaries in Honduras. I was the principal of a small vocational school, teaching carpentry, religion, and academics to children who had no other educational options. Second only to becoming a father, that experience was the most formative of my life. It has influenced everything I have done since -- from my career as a civil rights attorney to my service in local and state offices.

Just as it is in my life, my religious faith was a vital part of that story. I spoke about it often. But it wasn't clear until late in the race how much of an impact my faith would play in the contest, when Kilgore ran aggressive death penalty attack ads. Using the family members of crime victims, Kilgore insisted that my personal faith-based opposition to capital punishment would prevent me from carrying out executions. The ads were shocking and emotional. They led some pundits to immediately claim they would sink my campaign.

We quickly pointed out several untruths in the ads. A backlash began to form in both the press and the public to the nasty tone of Kilgore's campaign. I was also able to respond through my own ads, telling voters that I took the oath of office as seriously as my wedding vows.

We understood from the beginning of the campaign that our path to victory would be different from that of Governor Warner's 2001 campaign. Our strategy had to reflect that reality.

Warner had run against a suburban Republican from the Hampton Roads/Norfolk area, thus making the rural parts of the state the battleground. Warner focused a lot of his campaign on rural areas, especially in southwestern Virginia. He promised that a combination of new technology, better educational opportunities, and more attention from the state government would create a brighter economic future. That focus paid off when he performed remarkably well in the rural areas.

My opponent, by contrast, was a southwest Virginia native, with strong family and professional ties throughout the region. We knew that he would run well there. So we focused our strategy on winning extra support from the suburbs, where two-thirds of Virginia's population lives.

I had already decided on a policy platform that held a natural appeal for suburban voters. It included tax relief for homeowners, a statewide pre-K initiative, a balanced approach to growth, and new transportation solutions.

Our campaign strategy focused on eight "battleground" localities. These were suburban counties in Northern Virginia, Richmond, Hampton Roads, and Central Virginia that routinely go Republican. Our goal was not to win these suburbs, but to cut in half the GOP's usual margin of victory.

But we dramatically exceeded our expectations in the "battleground" localities. Rather than just cutting our margin of defeat, we actually won six of the eight counties we targeted. We also out-performed our goals in the other two. And therein lies the secret of our statewide victory.

Even as we methodically laid out our strategy, told my personal story, and offered an optimistic message of building on our success on key issues, Kilgore only relied more heavily on negative television and radio attack ads.

When Kilgore's death penalty attack ads failed to generate any movement in the polls, he tried to label me as a tax-raiser, a liberal, and a flip-flopper. When those failed to gain any traction, he tried to focus the race on the issue of illegal immigration, which was a growing concern in Northern Virginia. His attacks attracted national media attention, because illegal immigration is a hot topic in other parts of the country.

I responded by saying that I was opposed to illegal immigration, but that it was wrong to ask our local police officers to do the job of the federal government. I also reminded people that if Kilgore really wanted to do something about immigration, all he had to do was pick up a phone and call Bush and his Republican friends in Washington. He could tell them to do their jobs by enforcing the immigration laws.

When you consider the margins by which I won the regions he targeted with that attack ad, an argument can be made that it ultimately backfired.

While motivating our Democratic base, we strategically and successfully reached out to independent and Republican voters. We fought hard and avoided being the other side's punching bag. At the same time, we held the high ground by offering a positive message for the future. And most important, our agenda focused on the real-life issues -- homeowner's tax relief, pre-K, transportation -- that mattered to the suburban voters we targeted.


more crap at link
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 07:38 PM
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17. I haven't given them any money since Howard Dean left
I give to individual candidates. Just wait until I get another letter begging for money. :mad:
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emsimon33 Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 01:45 AM
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29. Ditto!
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Make7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 07:51 PM
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19. Watch the ads - I'm not sure characterizing them as "anti-HCR" is accurate.
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arthritisR_US Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 08:24 PM
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24. I didn't find those ads anti HCR, I wasn't a fan of Nelson's changes to the Bill or
a fan of the pandering to Nelson on HCR but I certainly didn't see these ads as anti HRC, jmo. :shrug:
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 07:54 PM
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20. While I take your point, I think the subject line is misleading. nt
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 08:08 PM
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23. Not my donations...
Doesn't surprise me either. Nelson getting attacked by the health insurance industry? Completely laughable.
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 01:08 AM
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25. .
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DKRC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 01:16 AM
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26. Not MY donations
I donate directly to Liberal/Progressive candidates. Only.


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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 01:34 PM
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31. None of MY donations, I'm glad to say
I give only to individual candidates, and I have for years, ever since I became aware of the existence of the DLC.

I don't want a cent going to any of those Republicans-in-disguise.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 01:36 PM
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32. i hope they can hear my wallet closing shut
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 01:41 PM
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33. This is mind boggling. The wallet is officially closed.
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concerned1 Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 01:44 PM
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34. Now that's real heart-warming news
Assholes.
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Lugnut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 01:47 PM
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35. Not my money.
I didn't give them any nor do I plan to.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 04:47 PM
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37. That sucks.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 05:49 PM
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38. Not another dime. nt
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