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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:19 PM
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Boy nearly suspended for action figure gun to school
Edited on Thu Feb-04-10 03:26 PM by ck4829
An irate Staten Island mom blasted a grade school principal Wednesday for treating her son like a pint-sized Plaxico Burress after he brought a 2-inch-long toy gun to school.

"This principal is a bully and a coward, and needs to be held accountable," said Laura Timoney, 44, after her teary fourth-grader was nearly suspended for playing with the tiny toy at lunch.

"The school should be embarrassed. This is a common-sense issue."

Patrick Timoney, 9, was terrified when he was yanked into the principal's office to discuss the teeny-weeny plastic "weapon."

"The gun was so little," the boy said. "I don't understand why the principal got so upset. I was a little nervous. They made me sign a statement."

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/education/2010/02/04/2010-02-04_big_trouble_over_this_tiny_toy_mom_fuming_at_a_lack_of_common_sense_as_son_buste.html

The weapon of mass destruction that was the cause of all the trouble:



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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:20 PM
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1. "Zero Tolerance" strikes again
:rofl:
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 04:13 PM
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36. Seems more like a Negative-Intolerance policy to me.
But it's really plain and simple idiocy.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:21 PM
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:50 PM
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31. Whom should we thank for school administrators
with no sense of discretion???
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 04:04 PM
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34. The same, they drew up the plans
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:22 PM
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3. I'm waiting for a suspension for showing off this beauty . . . .
Edited on Thu Feb-04-10 03:23 PM by no_hypocrisy
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:22 PM
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7. Happens regularly. (nt)
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:35 PM
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19. You think you're joking?
Kids HAVE been suspended for that, because it is considered a threatening gesture.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 04:15 PM
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37. Ooh, that's dangerous!
That thumb is clearly cocked.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:22 PM
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4. Zero Thought strikes once more. (nt)
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:22 PM
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5. This belongs in the gungeon.
:D
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:27 PM
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14. I think it's a stupiditiy issue... a plastic toy is not a gun.
The gun forum is about gun discussion and gun rights discussion.
This is nothing to do with 2A rights.
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:37 PM
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22. Really? Why should an example of idiocracy be ignored?
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Cali_Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 04:02 PM
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33. Oh come on....Rummy is just having some fun. n/t
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:22 PM
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6. *face-palm* That poor kid. And now he's traumatized about going back to school because
he thinks the principal is mad at him. :(
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:23 PM
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8. What size bullets would it shoot?
I'm thinking about the size of those tiny little sugar balls that go on one side of nonpareil candy. :eyes:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:38 PM
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.50 mm
Or so.
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:23 PM
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9. I always laugh when a Principal manages to humiliate their school in the news.
Good job!
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:24 PM
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10. what the hell's happened to common sense???n/t
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:25 PM
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12. It got locked in the basement by Fear of Lawsuits. (nt)
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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:38 PM
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24. It was exhiled in the DLC/Gingrich revolution
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:24 PM
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11. Ahh...more stooopid.
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:25 PM
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13. Zero Tolerance = Zero Intelligence.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:27 PM
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15. Zero Tolerance: Insuring that any crime, no matter how small, is axe murder.
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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:28 PM
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16. We should organize a national take your toy guns to school day
:evilgrin:
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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:32 PM
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17. But, if guns are toys, only toys will have guns. No, that's not right. I am as anti-gun as any,
but this is completely Cheneyed up.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:33 PM
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18. We have to keep the guns out of schools!
Someone could have been serious hurt by this 2 inch piece of plastic shaped like a deadly weapon. When I was little, the nurses office was overflowing with casualties from the Chewbacca action figure's crossbow blaster. We lost a lot of good kids in 4th grade to Star Wars action figure violence, it's a wonder any of us survived. DAMN YOU George Lucas and Kenner!
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:36 PM
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20. Zero tolerance nanny state. Gotta love it!
Where has common sense gone?
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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:36 PM
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21. could have been a real one...look at the details.
just kiddin
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:37 PM
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23. Years ago
I worked at a school where a kid was transferred in after being expelled from his former school for bring an orange plastic squirt gun to school.

Zero tolerance seems reasonable if a real gun or a highly realistic fake is brought to school but something that is obviously a toy should not merit the same treatment.
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farmout rightarm Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:39 PM
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25. Thank god another Columbine was narrowly averted!
...
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:40 PM
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26. Sure, go ahead and scoff.
But what if an action figure had gotten hold of that gun and started shooting other action figures? It would have been a plastic bath. And then a battalion of action figure lawyers would have shown up, and the school would be coughing up millions of dollars. Probably Monopoly money, but still.
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:43 PM
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27. Excellent point. I hadn't thought about that.
:rofl:
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 04:40 PM
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40. I can just picture all those Barbies running for cover ...
... oh, the humanity, well, doll-ity?
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rd_kent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 04:55 PM
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45. You are 100% right. I did not see it from that angle!
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:44 PM
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28. Was the kid even certified to handle tiny bits of plastic?
I hate to think what kind of damage a kid might do with a 2" plastic-injected object without the proper training. He could have sprayed the class with tiny, imaginary bullets! :eyes:
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:45 PM
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29. Maybe the principal thought is was one of these....




The smallest rim fire ammunition in the World manufactured by SwissMiniGun is a double action revolver enclosing features of a real size gun. With a 2.8 mm rim diameter and total length not more than 5.5 cm, this exclusively designed mini revolver shoots at a calibre of 2.34 mm. The unique revolver is product developed by the latest know-how and matchless expertise of the Swiss Watch and Jewellery Industry carrying a worldwide reputation.

http://www.hottnez.com/swissminigun-presents-the-smallest-revolver-in-the-world/



I'm just kidding. I'm glad the Principal and school realized the mistake and fixed it.
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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:48 PM
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30. This happened to my daughter...
When my youngest was in first grade, she was out on the playground--tired because
she had been out sick the previous two days. She was standing in line, waiting for
the monkey bars, when two fourth-graders cut in front of her and teased her about
never getting her turn. My first grader blurted out, "I'm going to kill you guys!".

The fourth graders told on her, and my daughter was sent to the principal's office.

I was called to come get my daughter. She was kicked out of school for the day
for threatening the lives of those two students.

I had to sign a form, and she was officially suspended--from first grade.

Our principal, said, "After Columbine, you just can't be too careful."

In no way was my daughter's comment appropriate. We had a long talk about
choices and using our words carefully. However, she didn't deserve all of this.
.
When I picked her up, from inside the principal's office, she was crying hysterically
and afraid. She later told me that the principal yelled at her, even after she
apologized and said that she wished she wouldn't have said it. He continued to lay
into her.

Interesting that the mom in the OP describes their principal as "a coward and a bully".
That's our principal too. He's a menace. I guess these types use all kinds of
situations to make bad decisions.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 03:54 PM
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32. "They made me sign a statement."
Welcome to the Brave New World young man. :(

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sasquatch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 04:05 PM
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35. That was the creepiest thing in the movie Brazil, those stupid masks
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 04:28 PM
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39. I used to think this was creepy, too, but now it is normal for Hollywood, TV personalities, etc.
I saw Glenn Close yesterday on TV. She looks like the woman below now:



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marshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 04:18 PM
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38. They need to better define what exactly they are banning
Some toy guns do have moving parts and can send out some kind of projectile and undoubtedly should be included in the ban, especially if they approximate the look AND SIZE of a real gun. But the toy gun in this incident is just a representation of a gun, can't shoot out even a soft foam projectile, and is in reality much less dangerous than your average sharpened pencil.
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LeftinOH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 04:42 PM
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41. You could choke that little thing... maybe.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 04:44 PM
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42. Zero Tolerance = Zero Brains
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aldo Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 04:46 PM
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43. Fire the principal
If the principal lacks adult judgement or lacks trust in her own judgement she shouldn't be in a position of authority. There are no rules that could ever make wisdom and judgement unnecessary. This principal should go.
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 04:51 PM
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44. My Frito Bandito pencil topper had *two* pistols.
Packing like that, whew, I could have been suspended permanently.
My, how times have changed!
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Rebubula Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 05:29 PM
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50. In my day...
...most boys came to school with Cap guns and shot them at recess as we played 'Cowboys and Indians'.

I wore a knife on my belt through much of Highschool.

Things have certainly changed....and will continue to do so.

This story is beyond stupid though...
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 05:04 PM
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46. The fear of being sued has made administrators idiots.
When I was teaching we had a principal that was like this. She suspended a girl for a week for saying "Oooo... I'm going to kill him" in the hallway when talking about how her boyfriend. She also sent a memo around to all teachers telling that they were to quit saying "Oh, shoot!" because she felt it encouraged gun violence.

Sadly, she's still working at the same school.
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bobburgster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 05:06 PM
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47. "Zero Tolerance" for stupidity should be made into law!

The lunacy of supposedly knowledgeable people never ceases to amaze me. People always ask me why I left....this is a prime example.

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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 05:20 PM
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48. My son was almost suspended when he was
seven for using the hand gun gesture. I hate the school system these days. That dog he is in his last year of HS.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 05:24 PM
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49. OMG that is an evil black full auto assault weapon toy!!!!!!!!
Edited on Thu Feb-04-10 05:27 PM by RamboLiberal
Another stupid overreaction by school authorities.

And note they missed the toy ax his friend's action figure had.

Several parents at the school felt the principal overreacted, including Kim O'Rieley - whose son was playing with Patrick in the cafeteria.

Her boy's Lego man was toting a tiny ax, which the principal deemed less threatening.

"It's ridiculous," said O'Rieley, 36. "He felt so bad for his friend. They're taking things way too far ... No one is saying guns are okay.

"Come on, it's a Lego."




Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/education/2010/02/04/2010-02-04_big_trouble_over_this_tiny_toy_mom_fuming_at_a_lack_of_common_sense_as_son_buste.html#ixzz0ebo3wqm4
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 05:32 PM
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51. He could really freak them out with this Lego gun


One of the models from Brickgun actually had a SWAT team sent to an office in Canada when someone spotted a guy with one at his desk.

If you were wondering what happens to 29-year-old men who still play with Lego, take Jeremy Bell as an example.

The partner at digital marketing company Teehan+Lax was surrounded by heavily armed tactical officers, cuffed and held against the wall of his Richmond St. W. office -- until, that is, the cops found the gun he had been holding in front of the window about 90 minutes earlier was a pile of blocks.

The BrickGun Semi-Automatic gun (purchased online from BrickGun, "designers and builders of the world's most realistic custom Lego weapon models") arrived at Bell's office Wednesday.

The lifetime Lego fan finished assembling his toy -- complete with build-it-yourself magazine -- at 5:40 p.m.

http://www.torontosun.com/news/torontoandgta/2009/12/04/12033281-sun.html
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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 05:38 PM
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52. School is correct ! Do NOT promote violence.
Where I live the school is constantly bombarded with requests from pro-war jack-offs to worship the killing and make more killers out of the kids.
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