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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:00 PM
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Is There Sh*t in Your Salad? 39% of Bagged Salads Have Too Much Fecal Bacteria
TreeHugger / By Brian Merchant

Is There Sh*t in Your Salad? 39% of Bagged Salads Have Too Much Fecal Bacteria
And this despite the fact that such bagged salads often display claims of 'prewashed' or 'triple-washed' and attract customers who consider them cleaner and safer.

February 2, 2010 |


First the soda fountains at fast food restaurants, and now this--Consumer Reports has just published an investigation revealing that 39% of the packaged salads tested contained "bacteria that are common indicators of poor sanitation and fecal contamination." And this despite the fact that such bagged salads often display claims of 'prewashed' or 'triple-washed' and attract customers who consider them cleaner and safer.

Consumer Reports tested 208 different salads from 16 brands, and they note that they didn't find any seriously dangerous pathogens like salmonella or E. coli--though they do mention in passing that the Dept. of Agriculture typically finds traces of salmonella in 2 out of every 4,000 salads tested.

Instead, CR was looking for "total coliforms and for other bacteria, including enterococcus, that are better indicators of fecal contamination." The reason for the test was that currently, while there are federal limits on the amount of "indicator" bacteria that can be legally found in water, milk, raw meats, and processed foods, there's no such standard for produce. And so, CR set out to discover whether there was sh!t in your salad (or at least, bacteria that commonly, though not necessarily, forms in feces). Here's what they found:

Several industry experts we consulted suggested that for leafy greens, an unacceptable level of total coliforms or enterococcus is 10,000 or more colony forming units per gram (CFU/g) or a comparable estimate. In our tests, 39 percent of samples exceeded that level for total coliforms and 23 percent for enterococcus.

Some samples registered up to 1 million CFU/g. Which is a lot of bacteria per gram of greens. .........(more)

The complete piece is at: http://www.alternet.org/food/145526/is_there_sh%2At_in_your_salad_39%25_of_bagged_salads_have_too_much_fecal_bacteria



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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:02 PM
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1. Bagged salad annoys the crap out of me
It's getting impossible to find decent produce, and everything's going to this pre-packaged disgusting garbage!
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:03 PM
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2. I never buy pre-packaged....only head lettuce. n/t
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 01:21 PM
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31. Same here.
We go through about 6-7 heads of romaine every two days so bagged lettuce is too expensive.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:04 PM
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3. Oh, crap. (nt)
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:04 PM
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4. .......
:spank:

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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:08 PM
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5. Never bought a bagged salad in my life and now I never will.
I never ate at the ubiquitous salad bars that were around a few years back. Too much coughing and sneezing. Yucky things.
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comrade snarky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:11 PM
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6. Ewww
I have, in a fit of laziness and desire for immediate salad, bought pre-washed lettuce in a bag and then eaten it. Without washing, so... gross.

Ah well, it didn't kill me and I've probably eaten worse without knowing it. Still, back to real produce for me.
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:14 PM
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7. Oh, wonderful.
I eat bagged salads at least once a week. My immune system must be made of steel.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:17 PM
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9. It is easy, and I find that I waste too much lettuce, carrots, etc.,
if I buy it all separately to make salads. But eeeeeeewwwww!
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:24 PM
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10. After all that bagged salad and fountain soda pop I've consumed,
I bet I could drink from the river in Tijuana and not get sick.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:28 PM
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12. Yeah me too.
I guess we are really just building our immunity! :rofl:
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 01:27 PM
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37. me too! not anymore
EWW
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:15 PM
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8. Too much?? Not ENOUGH I say!
(waits for bag salads to go on sale)

:D

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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 01:57 PM
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44. I'm with you! In fact, my only problem is...
there doesn't seem to be enough variety of feces in the bagged salad.


Who wants to eat the same old shit every day?


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laylah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 05:05 PM
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53. +1 LOL! nt
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:25 PM
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11. Ok...Sir that's the Steak Special, with baked potato and Salad...would you like the Salad....
...with or without Fecal Bacteria ??
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:31 PM
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13. The American Way of Life. No thanks. I buy leaf lettuce and wash it.
How difficult is that? A quick run under the tap, then a drying on paper towels. I don't get it why people don't get it. Do they NOT have anything other than iceberg lettuce? Really?

I'm astonished...
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farmout rightarm Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:34 PM
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14. Rinsing with cold water probably doesn't remove e coli.
I put mine through the dishwasher.



Okay, I made up that last part...
:silly:
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:36 PM
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19. If rinsing in water doesn't prevent e coli, then I have a lawsuit waiting for the producers
of the lettuce.

that is ridiculous...
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farmout rightarm Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 01:19 PM
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30. Well, it's not prevention, it's removal. But I was talking about a head of lettuce
sorry I didn't make that clear. There is a possibility of contamination deep inside veggies that grow in layers like lettuce, cabbage and so on. That can be 99.99% washed off by separating the leaves first. :-)
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:37 PM
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22. I do know people who wash their greens in the dishwasher.
Not so farfetched.
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farmout rightarm Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 01:24 PM
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34. Glurk! I thought I was just being goofy there...but I guess it would work but doesn't it wilt
the lettuce?

:silly:

(I have a recipe book by Justin Wilson that has a recipe for cooking fish in the dishwasher...I'm sure it's not a joke but I never had the urge to try it out)
;-)
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 01:28 PM
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38. Well I don't know about lettuce, but I know some who do that with their collard greens, etc.
Not sure if they just put it on a light rinse or what, but I guess the hot water is supposed to really clean them. :shrug:
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farmout rightarm Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 01:33 PM
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40. That might be a -good- thing for poke, it needs to be cooked twice!
:D
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 01:41 PM
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41. Now I am singing Poke Salad Annie!!
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 06:09 PM
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59. I know someone who washes his in the shower.
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Shell Beau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:35 PM
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15. Don't be astonished. I waste much of the veggies if I buy them
Edited on Thu Feb-04-10 08:36 PM by Shell Beau
like that. All fresh veggies is definitely better tasting, and better all the way around, but I don't waste the bagged stuff. As crappy as it is, convenience is key for me. I get home at close to 6, feed and bathe my baby, get her in the bed, and then try to cook supper. I try to save time where I can so I can finally sit down by 9. Luckily tonight, my husband is home early so I do have some extra time. And I hate wasting food. So, yeah.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:36 PM
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16. I rinse my salad greens with white vinegar
and I have never had any problems.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:39 PM
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23. "A quick run under the tap" ain't gonna kill bacteria and/or
pesticides. I use veggie spray or a dab of dishwashing liquid then rinse.
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marybourg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:36 PM
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17. I eat it most days of the week, but since the spinach scare, I soak
it in a 1:2 vinegar:H2O solution for 30 min, then rinse. Before bagged greens, I hardly ate any greens because it was to much trouble and waste and monotonous. I love the varied mixed greens now, dressed with olive oil and balsamic vinegar. Worth the trouble of soaking to me.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:36 PM
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18. And here I am thinking that meat is bad for you...
Edited on Thu Feb-04-10 08:37 PM by tinrobot
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:37 PM
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20. All salads except for my baby arugula and baby spinach, I'm most confident.
That's all I ever buy, and that's how I'm going to think about them, as clean as the driven snow!

:P
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Caretha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:37 PM
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21. Also you might notice that
those bagged salads are expensive and go bad very quickly if not consumed in just a few days.

I'm a salad lover & single and have figured out a method to make-up a large 1 gal container of fresh salad that stays fresh for a long time and is very simple and convenient.

Here is what you need:

1 gal plastic zip lock bag

3 heads of romaine lettuce = $2.00 - $2.25
1 10 oz package of broccoli slaw = $1.50

Slice each head of lettuce diagonally into 1" widths and put into large mixing bowl
Add package of broccoli slaw and mix well.

This will fill one 1 gal size zip log bag, store in the crisper.

Then you have the main ingredients for your salad always ready and can add tomatoes, avocados, croutons, or whatever floats your boat. You will not believe how easy it is to make up and how well it stores, and is so much less expensive and tastier than pre-packaged brands.

*Important - do not re-wash the romaine lettuce, buy the kind that has been pre-washed and the outer leaves removed
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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:40 PM
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24. When I taught high school in the 90's
One of my students was the son of a local family farmer, and he said NEVER eat the bagged stuff. "You don't know want to know why it ends up being bagged" or something to that effect. There were a lot of dairy farms in the valley, and so the easy transference of fecal matter was a concern for the produce growers.
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alc Donating Member (649 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:51 PM
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25. "Too Much Fecal Bacteria"?
Does that mean there is "the right amount of fecal bacteria" and "too little fecal bacteria"? What is the RDA of fecal bacteria? I'm sure "too much fecal bacteria" is an FDA or other gov't definition, but it still sounds strange :)
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 10:37 PM
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29. every single - without exception - package of ground meat you buy at the store contains feces
every last one.
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farmout rightarm Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 01:22 PM
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33. We eat a lot of venison that we process ourselves. We know exactly what's in it
and what isn't. :D
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farmout rightarm Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 01:26 PM
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36. There may be standards...I know there ARE maximums for insect parts.
Gotta run, it's lunch time


eek
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:53 PM
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26. I use it all the time
:-( darn it.
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mudplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 08:59 PM
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27. Thanks. I had bagged salad for lunch. Excuse me while I drink a bottle of Lysol.
I have an acquaintance who has lived healthily despite being HIV+ for nearly 25 years. He swears that one of the factors is that he soaks all raw fruits and vegetables in a sink full of water with a cap full of bleach for ten minuets before serving.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 10:02 PM
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28. So this is what they mean by saying....
Eat shit and die?

I eat the bagged lettuce from Trader Joe's....I like the Sorrento and Champs d'Elyses. Never had a problem....yet.

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farmout rightarm Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 03:56 PM
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46. Actually, most normally healthy people can ingest small amounts of e coli without harm.
"small amounts" being the operative descriptive. Anyway, pretty much everything we eat was at one time residing in the alimentary canal of some organism. Isn't that an appetizing piece of information? hehehe
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 04:16 PM
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47. LOL!
So 'It's a little bit of poop can help ya!' Sounds like those old Brylcream commercials....'A little dab will do ya.'

Fertilizer = Poop, right?

And I have been reading that all of this 'sanitation' crap with kids today is leaving them with weak immune systems. I grew up on a farm....guess I have a strong system. Saw lots of poop piles....and stepped in a few.:blush: :rofl:
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farmout rightarm Donating Member (680 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 06:00 PM
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57. "Don't cut yer foot"...........that's what the farmers & ranchers used to tell me
as I walked around their place. :D
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 12:19 PM
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62. Welcome to DU...
Far-out and Right-on! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 01:22 PM
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32. I want to eat more fresh veggies, and then I read sh*t like this
literally :puke:
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RedCappedBandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 01:25 PM
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35. Yummy! nt
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 01:31 PM
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39. Now that is really, really gross. I think I need to start growing all my own food.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 01:43 PM
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42. So that's why so many salads taste like shit.
And I thought it was because the lettuce was getting limp.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 01:44 PM
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43. I think there is a chance of that from anything that comes from the ground
since organic fertilizer is made from compost that is made from barnyard waste as well as decomposed vegetation. No matter where you get your salad greens you should thoroughly wash it yourself. I wash most of my fresh veggies and fruit with ordinary anti-bacterial soap. I once got a bout of food poisoning from a melon I ate because I didn't think about the fact that the rind was full of bacteria. The knife I used to cut through it rubbed the bacteria from the rind onto the fruit pulp.
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Lance_Boyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 01:59 PM
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45. Damn. If I wanted that kind of tossed salad I'd just go to prison. n/t

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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 04:45 PM
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48. from the industrial cattle? usually
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 04:56 PM
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50. from the pickers.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 04:56 PM
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49. if you were out in a field picking lettuce...and you had to take a dump...
and you get paid by the piece, not the hour...and the porta-pottie is waaaay over at the other end of the field....what would YOU do?
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 05:02 PM
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52. Ooohhh...
How dysfunctional! Don't you know it's mandatory that these serfs wear urine and fecal bags while picking?

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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 04:59 PM
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51. But, no shit... you can clean your lettuce like Rachael Ray!
First, buy those packages of romaine lettuce stuff 3 heads into a plastic bag. Take them out and run them under cold water while having a lettuce spinner (or a couple of kitchen towels) on the side.

After cleaning the lettuc, remove the thick part of each leaf's spine, then put them through the spinner or towel dry.

Now, open up a large zip lock type plastic bag that has a folded a paper towel at the bottom, and start placing the cleaned, trimmed lettuce it at the bottom in there, stacking it. You can get most of them in there that way.

Zip the bag closed, purging as much air out of it as you can and refrigerate. It will keep very well a good week in the frige, It will be ready for making salad when you are.

Best of all... shit free!

Isn't that GREAT? Ah... the magic of Rachael Ray!
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 05:16 PM
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54. Tragically, that means that 61% of bagged salads don't have ENOUGH fecal bacteria
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 05:33 PM
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55. How much is "too much"? I make my own from fresh, anyway,
and wash it first.

mark
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 05:40 PM
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56. Food for the masses = trouble
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 06:08 PM
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58. We had a very brief period of time when we used that stuff
at some point we decided it was icky & went back to cutting and washing our own lettuce.

Looks like we were right.
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 06:12 PM
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60. you mean that wasn't baco bits?
:scared:
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-05-10 06:14 PM
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61. Oh, great...
Guess what I just bought. :(
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