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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 09:37 AM
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Has The Irony Been Noted
Has any one noted the irony of the fact that the Tea Party people (I'm juvenile enough to snicker when I hear "tea bagger") are calling for voter literacy tests and knowledge of government as a requirement to vote? Aren't many of them the same people carrying on about where Barack Obama was born as if that even makes a difference in his qualifications for President? Even if Obama wasn't born in Hawaii, he'd still be considered a natural born US citizen because his mother was a US citizen.

I say let them go on about literacy until they are hoist by their petard.
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 09:38 AM
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1. Well, that will certainly thin their voting ranks.
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 09:44 AM
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2. I was thinking the exact same thing last night.
I would bet everything I own that if you held a gun to their heads, not one of the crowd would be able to tell you what the Boston Tea Party was about.

Michelle Bachmann's ramblings from a few months ago still make me:rofl: . She said something to the effect of, "If the Founding Fathers were outraged about taxation without reprensentation, imagine how angry they'd be about taxation WITH reprensentation".:wtf:
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:01 AM
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6. I'll give them a hint....
The Boston Tea Party was when a group of Pilgrims from Macedonia, running from artistic persecution in their native land, found themselves beached on the shores of the Suez Canal.

Native Suez-ians rescued the Macedonians from certain death from hoardes of giant bloodsucking Liberals, after which the grateful Macedonians sat down and had a tea party with their rescuers.

Or so I've been told...


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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 09:47 AM
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3. Actually the person who called for that was a well known
Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 09:55 AM by malaise
card carrying ReTHUG, Tom Tancredo. Sure the Teabaggers support that, but lets be clear - there are ReTHUGS who don't want all Americans to vote. That should be spread far and wide.

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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 09:51 AM
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4. They are an angry mob that has been voting against their own interest
Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 09:54 AM by AllentownJake
for 30 years because they held onto some delusion that they were going to be rich when Raygun and Bush II cut taxes and got "government off their back" when they failed to realize the only thing that was propping up their lifestyle was the government protecting them from the worst aspects of the free market.

They are suddenly surprised they are poor and they are in the same position as the people they have been blaming for the world's problems for the past 30 years.

One of the greatest flaws in the human character, is the inability to internalize you were very stupid, admit it, and change course, so they are doubling down on this free market idea.

For evidence on the left, look to Nancy Pelosi, Barack Obama, and Harry Reid on the Insurance Profitability Protection Act or the Senate and House banking committees on financial regulatory framework reform.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:33 AM
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7. Yeah, and now the only things they can claim as marks of "superiority"
that they believe should set them above other Americans are a) the whiteness of their skin and b) the fact that they were born here (unlike their grandparents and even some of their parents). For this they think they deserve special privileges that others do not.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:36 AM
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8. They are being fed nonsense by the same people
Edited on Sat Feb-06-10 10:40 AM by AllentownJake
that fed them nonsense 30 years ago.

Admitting you have been absolutely stupid, is about the hardest thing any human being can do and accepting responsibility for your stupidity is even harder.

There is a natural human impulse when confronted with the fact you have been used and you are stupid, to try to blame someone, generally other than the person who tricked you. In fact, generally the person who tricked you, can trick you again, fairly easily by blaming someone else.

See the democratic party and the banking industry for an example on the left.

Good example, how many people blame the person their significant other cheats on them with more than their significant other when infidelity occurs.

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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:50 AM
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9. The best thing that ever happened to me intellectually
Was my ex cheating on me and something I figured out in therapy thereafter when my father died.

I was very angry at the guy she cheated with less angry than I was with her. It was pointed out to me, in a session, that individual betrayed no trust of mine. He did not know me, he never claimed to have loved me, and he was never in a position of trust with me.

My ex however, had did such things, and if I was going to rationally look at the situation, she betrayed me, that guy never did anything. He might have been shady for hooking up with a girl that was in a relationship, but he was just interested in her, as I was.

Anger is a natural human reaction, and can be constructive. Anger will get you out of a bad relationship that is destructive. Anger that is misplaced and misdirected, is very destructive.

What you have with the Tea Parties, is a large group of angry people, who have been fed a shit load of bullshit for 30 years, and are angry at the wrong people.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 09:57 AM
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5. Maybe we should require a protest sign spelling test?
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 10:58 AM
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10. Well, there is no 'Tea Party'
those are just Republicans. Tancredo, who you are talking about, is a Republican and has been an elected Republican Congress member. Republicans.
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-06-10 09:01 PM
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11. Some Are Independents...
some are NPA, not Republican. I like thinking of them as the Tea Party folks because I don't think about the Boston Tea Party. I think about the Mad Tea Party from Alice in Wonderland - the Tea Party folks are kind of like the March Hare and the Hatter.

The table was a large one, but the three were all crowded together at one corner of it: `No room! No room!' they cried out when they saw Alice coming.
...

Have some wine,' the March Hare said in an encouraging tone. Alice looked all round the table, but there was nothing on it but tea. `I don't see any wine,' she remarked. `There isn't any,' said the March Hare. `Then it wasn't very civil of you to offer it,' said Alice angrily.

The Hatter's remark seemed to have no sort of meaning in it, and yet it was certainly English.
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