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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 03:28 PM Original message |
Burn in hell? |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 03:36 PM Response to Original message |
1. I survived Catholic school |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 03:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. hubby and i both went to catholic |
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Sebastian Doyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 03:38 PM Response to Original message |
2. The problem with the whole "burning in Hell for eternity" thing |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 03:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. with god, all things are possible. i don't think the science lesson will persuade |
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tabasco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 07:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
59. Especially a god who believes in eternal torture |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 03:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. i think it might have been |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 03:40 PM Response to Original message |
3. my favorite of their idiotic sayings is |
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1awake (852 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 05:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
40. The saying is weird but |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 06:58 PM Response to Reply #3 |
46. I am pretty sure it means a spiritual death and not a physical one. |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 08:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
85. It's grammatically incorrect now. |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
6. I was raised Baptist |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 03:46 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. i was traumatized as a child |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. A whole lot of us were |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 04:02 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. when i was a child i played with |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 08:27 PM Response to Reply #16 |
76. It never took with me. Devoute cradle Catholic that I was, I clearly recall knowing |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
9. I gave up being afraid of hell when I realized |
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pink-o (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 03:56 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. That's my conclusion as well! |
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Bonhomme Richard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
10. I haven't met very many christians in my life. |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 08:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
73. i know exactly what you mean. |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
11. You know- |
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Bigmack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 03:52 PM Response to Original message |
12. Hell doesn't scare me.... |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
13. It's a classic abusive relationship |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. lol. yes, he would be in jail. |
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shireen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 04:00 PM Response to Original message |
17. i'd rather burn in hell than fearfully worship her 'god' nt |
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HappyCynic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
18. Been a long time... |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 04:08 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. you are absolutely right. |
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timeforpeace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
20. When you were her age, did you still hold to catholic beliefs? Or we you atheists by then? Try to be |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 04:11 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. my granddaughter is 30. i have 2 |
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Whisp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 04:05 PM Response to Original message |
21. i'm sorry you have to suffer this. |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 04:15 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. she has an interesting religious background. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
24. I must say, from Catholicism to atheist, is quite a stretch! n/t |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 04:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. it is, but like i said it didn't |
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Libertas1776 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 04:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. It really isn't |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 04:21 PM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Yes, it really is. n/t |
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Libertas1776 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 04:39 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Well, would you care to explain how that is so? |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Not particularly. The OP understood my point. n/t |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 05:51 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. There isn't really a "fence" between atheism and agnosticism.. |
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Libertas1776 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 06:40 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. When one is on the fence |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 08:07 PM Response to Reply #43 |
70. I call myself an atheist in that I lack a belief in god.. |
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Libertas1776 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 09:10 PM Response to Reply #70 |
95. Very true points... |
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tango-tee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 02:01 AM Response to Reply #43 |
126. Same here. Wonderfully stated. |
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a la izquierda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 07:24 PM Response to Reply #38 |
55. my husband is agnostic. |
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juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. Not at all. I am familiar with many former catholic atheists. |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 04:54 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. It may be 'common' but nevertheless, a stretch. n/t |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 05:23 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. santeria has incorporated the |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 08:35 PM Response to Reply #34 |
80. This particular fallen Catholic digs the Bhagavad Gita. |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 10:57 PM Response to Reply #80 |
110. i have a very good friend who |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 06:00 PM Response to Reply #24 |
41. Made that trip myself |
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Speck Tater (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
26. I never cared for a religion that taught God created people so he'd have somebody to torture. |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 04:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. my beliefs tend towards |
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HappyCynic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 04:50 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Justification |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 09:17 PM Response to Reply #33 |
97. Literalists don't believe translations are interpretations |
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keep_it_real (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
36. Nothing to due with an after life but check out |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
39. I thought the Catholics changed their minds on "Hell" |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 06:04 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. i know purgatory is gone. |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 08:47 PM Response to Reply #42 |
83. actually purgatory is still around -- it was "limbo" that went out of business |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 09:05 PM Response to Reply #83 |
90. limbo -- that was the place |
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4 t 4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 06:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. I was raised by a Woman |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 07:13 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. when my parents divorced, the parish |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 08:43 PM Response to Reply #44 |
82. You are talking about ONE person and 2nd hand info at best. And yes I can tell |
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Generic Brad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 07:10 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. Possibly, but my Catholic relatives never got that memo |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 07:47 PM Response to Reply #48 |
61. i'm sorry you had to |
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Gman2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 06:56 PM Response to Original message |
45. It is unfair to blame a potential saviour for those cretins. They are religious. |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 07:07 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Well I guess that all depends on if you believe Revelation or at |
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Gman2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 07:14 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. No, it doesnt, that is why I said potential! |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 07:17 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. ok, well I was stating that for those who do believe there is a Savior. |
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Gman2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 07:52 PM Response to Reply #53 |
63. The hell you refer to comes form Dante's Inferno. |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 07:58 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. I am a Christian so I do believe there is a hell. |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 08:31 PM Response to Reply #66 |
77. i've said in several posts that |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 08:02 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. hubby and i were talking |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #53 |
75. the bible was written by man. |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 08:36 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. I haven't read it all either. I have read much of it. |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 08:53 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. and i respect yours. |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 09:01 PM Response to Reply #84 |
87. Lookie there! We just had a civil discussion about religion!!!! In GD!!! |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 09:03 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. lol. |
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Gman2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 10:42 PM Response to Reply #87 |
107. When you break it down to what you know philosophically |
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Gman2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 10:46 PM Response to Reply #81 |
108. For a real hoot, read Alan Watts book comparing the incredible similarities of Buddhism, and Christi |
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Alias Dictus Tyrant (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 07:14 PM Response to Original message |
51. Actually, it is more like a slow-cooked roast. |
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gkhouston (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 09:01 PM Response to Reply #51 |
88. Gives new meaning to "low and slow". |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
52. Heaven doesn't want me and Hell is afraid I'll take over - so I'll be homeless |
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suede1 (770 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
54. Someone said that to me about 10 years ago and I had the same reaction you did. |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
56. My husband has had the "joy" of being informed several times that as a Jew he will certainly fry... |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 07:54 PM Response to Reply #56 |
64. my granddaughter's husband |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 07:56 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. those poor jews. they |
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csziggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 07:26 PM Response to Original message |
57. When people talk about "burning in hell" I think of this song |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 08:33 PM Response to Reply #57 |
79. that's cool or should i say hot. |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 07:29 PM Response to Original message |
58. A lot of kids are extremely literal (I was at that age). I tended to believe |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
60. I was told that often growing up, by priests. |
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xfundy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
62. Nothin' says lovin'... |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
67. 'Hell' was invented by the church to keep the sheeple in line... |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 08:12 PM Response to Reply #67 |
71. and to keep the money coming in. nt |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 08:16 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. Not necessarily. Revelation talks about fire and brimstone. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
69. I believe there are consequences for who/what one is. I think the superstition about a place where |
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salguine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
74. Religion in general has been, for thousands of years, nothing more than a tool to |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
78. Plenty of religions have hell |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 09:06 PM Response to Reply #78 |
91. isn't that the one where he says |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 09:09 PM Response to Reply #78 |
94. Yes, a Japanese client of mine a long time ago, a Buddhist, told me that they |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 11:03 PM Response to Reply #94 |
113. my rolfer is a buddhist. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 11:09 PM Response to Reply #113 |
115. I don't know. Since he was Japanese, their Buddhists are a little different |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 12:32 AM Response to Reply #115 |
116. my rolfer started studying zen buddhism |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 12:40 AM Response to Reply #116 |
118. I'm glad he has Medicare. |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 12:48 AM Response to Reply #118 |
119. i agree. everyone should have |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 12:54 AM Response to Reply #119 |
120. You are going to have to fight to make sure it doesn't go away. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
86. I remember in Catholic school that all the accusations from the nuns that |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 09:06 PM Response to Reply #86 |
92. Yep. And something else that ISN'T THERE in Christian Dogma is the eternal |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
93. imho, i am currently burning in hell |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 09:13 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. Actually, psychic and grifter Sylvia Browne claims that earth is Hell and we |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 09:18 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. That's taken straight out of Gnosticism |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 09:21 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. Is it? I never read any Gnosticism, but I wouldn't doubt it. |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 09:21 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. I've mixed my Catholicism with karma |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 09:23 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. You know even my Baptist Aunt Frances had a purgatory version of Hell. |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 09:45 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. I've heard this term, "ground luminosity" |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 11:06 PM Response to Reply #101 |
114. i remember we were told |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 10:32 PM Response to Reply #96 |
106. yes. i've listened to sylvia. |
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Sheepshank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 09:39 PM Response to Original message |
102. Some consider burning in hell forever something to avoid.. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 09:41 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. Obviously a religion invented and promulgated by men. Of course they get to |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 10:27 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. i thought mormon women who |
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Sheepshank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 11:00 PM Response to Reply #105 |
112. their jobs will be to procreate, regardless of their title |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 12:34 AM Response to Reply #112 |
117. they don't even get a break in paradise? |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
109. Fire insurance is no reason to decide to become a Christian. |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-06-10 10:57 PM Response to Original message |
111. I'm what I like to refer to as a "recovering born again" |
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indy legend (484 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 01:39 AM Response to Reply #111 |
122. I am a christian... |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 01:59 AM Response to Reply #122 |
124. See here's the thing - I never identify myself with any particular religion. |
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jobwithout (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
121. Intellectually dishonest |
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liquid diamond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 01:58 AM Response to Reply #121 |
123. It's a subtle swipe at Christians. |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 02:01 AM Response to Original message |
125. Chinese author Lin Yutang had a good answer. |
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hfojvt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 02:21 AM Response to Original message |
127. it's been a while |
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gleaner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 02:33 AM Response to Original message |
128. When I was little .... |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 12:55 PM Response to Reply #128 |
130. See, that's the thing that ticks me off. |
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gleaner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 04:42 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. Exactly .... |
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Jeffersons Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 02:46 AM Response to Original message |
129. I burned the hell out of some chicken recently does that count? |
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