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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:28 AM
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Tea Party People Are Those That Thought Their Race Counted More Than Their Economic Class Status
For anyone who believes that they can reason with these people or find some sort of common ground, think again. These are folks that believed their race, namely, their White race counted more than their economic class, and now they're feeling the pain. So, they're angrily lashing out and blaming "others" for their problems.

For example, they don't blame the current economic collapse on Bush, deregulation, the Republicans, or Wall Street. They blame the Community Reinvestment Act, Barney Frank, and the government for forcing lenders to loan to unworthy poor people, i.e. African Americans and Hispanics, for the collapse. No amount of evidence nor facts will ever dissuade them.

They're not against government spending either. Many of them are on some sort of government assistance. Many of them work either directly or indirectly for government, and none of them want to cut a single dime from our bloated military. No, what they want to cut is money going to "other people". That's why they're never specific about what they want cut, and the media never presses on them about what they want cut. The media panders to them because it's easy ratings. Fox news slants their coverage to confirm their racist worldview. Roger Ailes even admitted that he's in the ratings business, not the news business.

In the end, these people are going to be in a perpetual state of anger because the people they elect keep screwing them over, time and time again. They will never make the connection that deregulation of business and lowered taxation of the wealthy robs the middle class. They just believe that their race will protect them economically.
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targetpractice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:33 AM
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1. Profound insight....
Thanks for the consise and accurate post!
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:37 AM
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2. Happy to be your 6th vote. You are right on! eom
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deacon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:39 AM
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3. k + r n/t
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Number23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:40 AM
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4. Rec'd. I don't know how many times this point has to be made
before certain "liberals" will stop screeching that they can be "reached."
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:42 AM
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5. Yep. It's a sense of entitlement.
They're frustrated by the current inequality, and blame the people who are trying to make things fair for everybody.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:43 AM
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6. Yep. They have no idea that their kids go to crappy schools
because we are owned by a Pentagon that can lose pallets of packets of bills.

Thom Hartmann, I hope you see this post.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:43 AM
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7. of course, that's what the Southern Strategy of the Republican Party has been about
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:21 AM
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17. Southern Whites Turned Their Backs On A Political Party That Lifted Them Out of the Poverty
brought upon them by Republican ideology just because the Democrats enacted Civil Rights legislation.

Proof positive that it's all about race to these folks.
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onestepforward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:48 AM
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8. Excellent point.
You cannot reason with them at all and that has been the most frustrating part for me. I find myself looking at a closed door that will never open. What can I do with that? I haven't found the answer yet.

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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:50 AM
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9. No, they are people rapidly seeing their economic class status vanish
It wasn't racist when they had the same opinions for decades, don't hallucinate that it magically became about it now.

Sub-prime lending is absolutely the cause of the collapse regardless of the race they went to. There is plenty of blame to pass around from the de-regulators to the bankers, government, and the people who took mortgages they shouldn't have. Anyone who blames only one of those is missing a dramatically important lesson from the collapse.

They are not racist, just too stupid to realize their ideology doesn't work. The same ideology they had when a black president wasn't even a consideration.
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:03 AM
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11. They Are Indeed Racist
They never protested once when Bush ran up the deficit or shredded the constitution through the Patriot Act. It's not about ideology to them. It's about their feeling betrayed.

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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:12 AM
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13. Maybe they protested but the new$ didn't cover it?
It's possible
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:16 AM
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15. Ha!
That's laughable. So, the media ignored their spending protests against Bush, but cover them now?

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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:18 AM
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16. Um, the media pretty much ignored the Iraq war protests
Don't you ever question why the media choose to show you what they do?

:shrug:
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:36 AM
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18. If There Were Tea Party Protests Against Bush's Deficits
It would have shown up on Fox, Free Republic, Rush, Hannity, Laura Ingraham, etc., etc. etc.

Come on, be real.
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Tippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 06:07 AM
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26. There were a few protestors...coverd by local news...
Not really sure who they were protesting..some were teabaggers protesting teabaggers..some were protesting all teabaggers...some were protesting because of the price of the convention tickets. And inside the convention some were caught on camera nodding off, or talking to people setting near by. Palen made on big boo boo I wish I could remember her exact words but she was saying something about America and said Alaska...Tea Party Nation had a few questions for Palen after the speech...I beleive four or five...stupid quesiton as by stupid people and answered by an eaqualy stupid person.
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:13 AM
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14. They are not racist, just ignorant.
They actually think Bush helped them. Bush was the ideology they want.

They have had the same ideology for decades before Obama. They vociferously opposed both Clintons for the same policies.

When white people have advocated the same policies they have been assassinated (JFK, RKF), and had domestic terrorism problems(Clinton).
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:40 AM
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19. They are racists. Did you miss the post that quoted one of them
Edited on Sun Feb-07-10 02:40 AM by EFerrari
suggesting that no (R) or (D) be put after candidates' names so the black people wouldn't know who the Democrats were?

Look at them closely, carefully. You're looking at the face of the biggest racists in America.
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:45 AM
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20. One person said something stupid
Talk about painting with a broad brush.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 03:05 AM
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21. I'm giving you the part for the whole, not painting with a broad brush.
If you have followed this at all, you'd be familiar with their dog whistles.

Didn't that dedicated patriot Tancredo argue on Friday that we should bring back literacy tests for voters?

My brush isn't broad at all. It's precise as hell.

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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 03:17 AM
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22. Where is the whole?
Ok, so they have downgraded from assassination and domestic terrorism to dog whistles because they are so racist against him.


When white people advocate the same thing people have killed them. Resorting to dog whistles seems to be a moderation of their actions in response to a black president.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 03:26 AM
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23. No, using code is how they manage to stay in the headlines.
Edited on Sun Feb-07-10 03:27 AM by EFerrari
How they get covered by Brian Lamb all weekend.

Moderation, my @ss.

There's nothing moderate about these people.



Does that look moderate to you? If so, you need to get to an optometrist asap.

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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 03:37 AM
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24. Have you seen the Zapruder film?
They killed JFK. They killed RFK. They tried to impeach Clinton. They were blowing up federal buildings and crashing planes into the white house.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 03:52 PM
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33. I have no idea what you just said.
:)
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corpseratemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 07:20 AM
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27. +1
it is a White Power Movement in code



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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:51 AM
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10. K&R
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AllenVanAllen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:05 AM
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12. "They will never make the connection"



Where they should use logic they use emotion. It's as if they're in a perpetual state of fear, that turns to anger and leads to nowhere.



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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 03:52 AM
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25. K & R nt
:thumbsup:
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 07:23 AM
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28. File under "You can lead a horse to water"
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 07:26 AM
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29. K&R
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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 07:33 AM
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30. Maybe for some...
but for most, it's just plain ignorance I believe. Some may be driven by racial hate, but from what I've seen, it's just a lot of ignorance about issues. The reason a lot of these people didn't protest Bush is because they don't even know his policies. They just figured a conservative is a conservative. Of course, many of them also will tell you they don't like Bush, since he wasn't conservative enough.

Actually, if you really look at the Tea Party movement, the most remarkable and obvious thing, besides race, is the age of those Tea Partiers. From what I've seen at least, most of the Tea Partiers are pretty well off actually. And the vast majority are older, which is where most of this comes from I believe, including some racial animosity from some of them. Seriously, you don't see too many young people or even middle aged people at those gatherings.

If they were well informed, I doubt most of them would be Tea Partiers.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 07:40 AM
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31. Profound
They bought into the Racial Contract - the worst of us is better than the best and brightest Afro-American and any other minority.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 07:47 AM
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32. The Pasty White People's Party...
A great point! Yes, they do put their race and the talking points ahead of their real economic plight. They use the ruse of "lower taxes" and "less government" but they neither have a clue as to what that means and how it will affect them.

Ask a teabagger if there are less taxes then who will fix roads or protect their sorry asses or make sure their toilets flush and you get crickets. Then spin their heads in asking if they hate government so much, why do they elect assholes who expand them...like boooosh. Also what part of government do they cut? Their Social Security? Wait for the crickets...

The real game here is a long time rushpublican meme that white males are being discriminated against...be it by those damn blacks or the hispanics taking all their jobs or women daring to want equal pay or a say about what happens with their bodies...and don't even bring up teh gay...those aren't people at all. It's the ultimate mindmeld and manipulation...saying the lie long enough and people will believe it.
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 04:35 PM
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34. Yes, they're proto-fascists. They're the opposition to working-class anti-racist leftists,
the ones who tend to grow in numbers when the left is impoverished by the promises of do-nothing centrists.

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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 11:14 PM
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35. Yup. Disrali was the first conservative to put together the idea that if you
got the people voting for reasons of patriotism rather than economics..then the conservatives could actually win elections against liberals. That was way back in England in the 1800s. Getting people to vote on god, guns and gays works the same way. They vote against their own best interest.
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