Who has done more damage to people in the US - "Wall Street" or the enemies in the "War On Terror"?

Who has done more damage to people living in the United States?

Just to be clear, "Wall Street" here refers specifically and solely to the executives and traders of Goldman Sachs, AIG, Bank of America, Citibank, JPM Chase, the major investment banks who met their demise or were absorbed in 2008 (Lehman, Bear Stearns, Merrill Lynch and Morgan Stanley), and the Federal Reserve Bank, especially the Federal Reserve of New York.

The enemies in the "War on Terror" refers to "al-Qaeda" and other groups designated as legitimate targets of counterterror efforts by US administrations.

The period to consider began on September 11, 2001.

You may consider indirect as well as direct costs.

The details regarding the theft of WaMu by Bush's FDIC are coming to light-


http://www.businessinsider.com/sheila-bairs-biggest-hat...

Cantwell reveals another WaMu inquiry

http://seattle.bizjournals.com/seattle/stories/2010/02/01/daily48.html

I hope the permanent subcommittee on investigations pushes this. The PSI is these folks;

Carl Levin Chairman (D-MI) Tom Coburn Ranking Member (R-OK)

Thomas R. Carper (D-DE) Susan M. Collins (R-ME)

Mark L. Pryor (D-AR) John McCain (R-AZ)

Claire McCaskill (D-MO) John Ensign (R-NV)

Jon Tester (D-MT)

that the rape of WaMu has not had broader media coverage.

Here's a story-
http://tinyurl.com/ycffhjq

The suicides can no longer tell of their agony.

http://tinyurl.com/ygnfnj8

You probably haven't heard about this.

http://tinyurl.com/dngc7a


These people need to be indicted.

....gasoline at $4 + a gallon? Is that damage enough to warrant concern?

As far as life and limb goes, you can choose how you want to account for direct violence (like blowing people up) as opposed to the indirect effects on life and limb of unemployment, bankruptcies, lost income, loss of nutritional quality, lost health care coverage, lost homes, rising crime rates, lost opportunities for education, stress due to debt, etc. etc. Not to mention other consequences that may follow in part from the depression, which was caused above all by the giants of the financial sector through their lobbying to end regulation and law enforcement on their industry, through their subsequent witting fraudulent inflation of the housing bubble and exponential derivatization thereof, in full knowledge of the inevitable crash and its consequences, and also partly through their inflation of oil commodity prices in 2008.

you aren't blown up and dead; poor perhaps but not dead. I guess it depends on what is more important to you. I prefer alive so fuck the terrorists and yay for soup kitchens.

in the United States. When an economy crashes, that translates into death and physical injury as an inevitability that can be shown in statistics.

In the world, where these motherfuckers have put all of the poorest countries into irredeemable debt, that translates into millions they've starved.

Every time there's an "IMF riot" and security forces gun down protesters, that's in part the bankers who are pulling the trigger.

They will try to start more wars with Iran, Syria, and Yemen too.

I also missed WaMu and Wells Fargo, but I think the list above already beats "the terrorists" by a large factor.

and the sound byte appetite of our dumbed down society.

:hi:

From experience, I find that most of "the media" are relatively ignorant of just how fradulent and damaging their profession is, and often buy into the deception that they're doing a service, or else believe (or at least will say) that hey, it's what the people want, it's just show business, etc. etc.

When the bankers set out to overvalue assets, drive bubbles, sucker investors, intentionally dole out candy loans for liars, commit usury, slap outrageous charges on top of charges, and conduct all of the other frauds they perpetrate, they may think it's a service to the world, but only because their ideology or social-darwinist God tells them that greed is good and everyone should try to screw everyone else to the maximum extent they can get away with.

In other words, the bankers know they exist by screwing everyone they can. They know they voluntarily cause destruction and they celebrate it as a good and necessary thing, just like our image of "the terrorists."

costing us nearly everything, and have put nothing back.

Sorry about the levity with which it was phrased. One might conceivably think that both the banksters and the terror attacks are exaggerated in terms of their actual impact on most peoples' lives. At least, it makes the options complete.

Of course, I don't see how one could think that about the response to terror attacks, which has been extreme and total and deadly, and quite a contrast to the US government's capitulation to the banksters (really, an open cession of sovereignty) starting in September 2008 and continuing to this day. But you're right, it's hard to understand why anyone would pick that option.

Look who's in that crowd.

Remember America? Before the wars?

She said Bin Laden got the wrong target and should have taken out the NY Times. I say he should have taken out Goldman Sachs.

if he tried every day for the rest of his life.

....the wall street casinos and the banking parlors....

....the terrorists have only cost us a few skyscrapers and a few thousand lives....hell, the medical establishment alone probably kills more than three thousand innocent Americans each week....

....the wall street casinos and banking parlors have cost us hundreds of trillions of dollars of real lost value that will take generations to recovery from....

....come back in ten years and your question will still be current....

The terrorists did a lot of damage, make no mistake, but given the Bush administration penchant for hyperbole it is hard to know exactly how many of them there were, exactly what they did, exactly who was involved in 9/11 and how much of a threat of repetition there is. He used them as straw dogs to terrify the American public and make us submit to his own personal brand of fascism.

Wall Street on the other hand has brought our whole country to its knees and they show every sign of wanting to obliterate the US as we have known it.