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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 11:46 AM
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There is nothing wrong with having notes of key points when you're
making a speech or giving an interview. Nothing wrong with writing them on your palm (a little tacky) or having an index card. The best of speakers get nervous and can lose their train of thought.

Let's stick to the main tent here and avoid the sideshow...it was what Sarah said not whether she had notes. Her speech was frightening.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 11:47 AM
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1. If you are going to attack the President of the US for using a teleprompter..
I'll beg to differ..she's a hypocrite,liar and fraud
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Kadie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 11:49 AM
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3. Exactly why this is a story.
She stepped into it when she brought up the telepromter.
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Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:03 PM
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13. And she read her speech from paper notes while at the podium.
Which is more directly relevant to the bogus 'teleprompter' smear. But not Nearly as funny.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 11:50 AM
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4. How did you get that from my post? I was basically supporting anyone's
use of notes or a prompter. I was pointing out that it was the SUBSTANCE of her sheech, not how she made it that was awful.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 11:59 AM
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11. Fail.
Hipchick wasn't accusing you of attacking the President. Sheesh.

Also, where were you when we WERE DISCUSSING THE SUBSTANCE OF THE SPEECH? And, how do you conclude (especially if you watched it) that there was any SUBSTANCE to her speech to discuss? The consensus around here is that her speech was jumbled and, at times, incoherent. It was bad high school student council material. It was typical Sarah Palin tripe.

So, what is it you want to discuss?

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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:14 PM
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19. Precisely. nt
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kstewart33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 11:47 AM
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2. Well said.
I've given scores of speeches and occasionally I'll jot a thought on my palm - a key one that I don't want to forget.
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countingbluecars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 11:52 AM
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5. If she can't remember a few key
points that she repeats over and over again, there is something wrong. She's an idiot.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 11:53 AM
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7. Exactly..
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 11:52 AM
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6. Ad hominem attacks from those who are too lazy
to debate the real issues.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:13 PM
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18. Ridiculous. The "attack" is because she criticized Obama for using teleprompters.
In the same speech, yet!
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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 11:54 AM
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8. It's valid because it feeds into a pre existing perception of her as a moron
n/t
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 11:57 AM
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9. Which vice president candidate could not spell potato? which former VP candidate still uses sharpie
Edited on Sun Feb-07-10 11:58 AM by HipChick
notes almost a year later..

same perception,but it helped to finish Quayle..
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 11:59 AM
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10. I don't disagree. Just saying we should also focus on what she said.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:02 PM
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12. I don't disagree but I dont see M$M doing any fact checking on what she said..
Edited on Sun Feb-07-10 12:03 PM by HipChick

It's the double standard...Dean's scream... Quayle Potato...
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:04 PM
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14. She mocked Obama for using a teleprompter...
Edited on Sun Feb-07-10 12:07 PM by SidDithers
while needing her own crib notes.

The issue is the hypocrisy, not her use of notes.

Plus, she's an idiot.

Sid
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:09 PM
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15. It's the hypocrisy, stupid

As Clinton would say.
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tranche Donating Member (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:09 PM
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16. Energy, Tax Cuts, Lift American Spirits
I've given speeches, as I'm sure many of us on DU have. Bringing along a nice outline is one thing. For a Republican to have to write this on her hand is pretty funny. Here's a few more:

Reagan, Freedom, Drill Baby Drill
Terror, Terror, Reagan
Socialist, Hussein, Pelosi
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hisownpetard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:12 PM
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31. Also:
commin sense

wink

birth certificate

WINK

WINK

WINK
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MindPilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:11 PM
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17. It's not just a little tacky; it's incredibly unprofessional.
Edited on Sun Feb-07-10 12:19 PM by MindPilot
She's a former governor and possibly in line for the highest office in the land; her public speaking skills should be way beyond needing notes. And writing them on her hand is kid stuff. It is not really about who she is or how much she knows, it is about a skill level that is fundamental to her position.

The basic function of the Teleprompter is not to remember the speech; most speeches are read anyway. It's to be able to read the speech and still look at the camera or maintain eye contact with the audience.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:16 PM
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21. +1
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:15 PM
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20. Anytime a 40 something wannabe politician has to write
three key themes on her hand as if she was in junior high school - it's a problem. It's a problem that she can't remember three key themes. Oh, let me check my notes :rofl:

So she wants to be the President? She actually believes someone who had months to prepare for this speech and has to write notes on her hand is Presidential material. She's delusional.

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:16 PM
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22. And charge 150K for the speech to top it all off.
What a waste of resources.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:34 PM
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23. I only saw clips of her speech on tv this morning but to me
she looked drained, tired and aging rapidly. I saw pics of people in the audience and some looked disgusted. I don't think Palin delivered for them and maybe they are thinking the same.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:57 PM
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26. I thought the same thing. She looked unhealthy.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:38 PM
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24. Maybe on the Toastmasters circuit, but not on that level...
When someone gets paid $100k to share their knowledge and expertise, they should know their subject cold.

Or at least do what George Bush did and have an earpiece.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:55 PM
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25. Her speech seemed like standard Republican boiler plate
but maybe I should read it because everything she says sounds like Charlie Brown's teacher to me.

What I did notice last night was that the applause lines were roughly timed at the same interval as one verse in common meter, which is used in hymms. So, her speech writer knew the audience was already trained to respond at that beat and exploited that. But that's probably nothing new, either.

The most difficult thing she did was try to straddle the line which encourages pissed off teabaggers but also nudges them back into the GOP fold. Some of these people are only slightly more pissed at the Democrats than they are at the Republican Party.
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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:00 PM
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27. No, this is actually the most important part of the Palin event.
The general public has a short attention span, and lives in pictures and sound bites. They didn't see or hear her speech, and never will.

But they can all grasp a picture of Palin with words cribbed onto her hand. All but the koolaid drinkers will think this makes her a moron, so that's a win.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:18 PM
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28. what might be ok for, say, a businessman speaking to the local jaycees isn't necessarily ok if
you're stumping yourself for the presidency of the United States. Don't think I've seen anybody at that level write shit on their hands. So if nothing else it's pretty funny.

Besides, as others have pointed out, she ridiculed the president for his use of a teleprompter, so that irony is just too much to pass up.
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:26 PM
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29. she has to read off of her own crib hand notes for PRE APPROVED questions
:wtf:
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:08 PM
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30. Kick and Recommend.
Tempest in a Teacup (intended)

Most Americans WILL find this endearing.
Remember, 1/2 of the population is below average, and writing notes on their hand is something they have done, and can relate to.... It "humanizes" the monster that is Sarah Palin.

The CONTENT (or lack of) should be the focus, NOT her appearance, performance, or use of notes.
Attacking THAT will be LESS than productive. It WILL produce "blowback" and further entrenchment.
The "notes" are barely worth mentioning.
The fact that THIS is dominating DU is not a good thing.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:14 PM
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32. Fuck that noise.
This isn't some junior high school student running for class treasurer giving a speech at a school assembly.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:14 PM
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33. I wouldn't have a problem with her having notes
if she would stop harping on President Obama and the teleprompter. The hypocrisy is staggering.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:23 PM
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34. As much as I dislike Palin, I was going to make the same point
until I heard her criticize the President for using a teleprompter. Which makes her yet again a huge hypocrite and double standard bearer.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 02:29 PM
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35. you can't even take palin into consideration without the sideshow
Edited on Sun Feb-07-10 02:29 PM by spanone
it's her schtick
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