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AzNick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 11:54 AM
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My opinion on Palin and the Tea Party when I woke up this morning
I went to bed thinking about the Tea Party thing and Palin's speech.

I slept on it and woke up thinking that this is actually a very positive thing for us.

I think the GOP and it's Tea Party offshoot totally misunderstand how Obama won this election and are doing everything they can to scare independents and even some long time Republicans away from them.

They are advertising themselves as a party of goons, racists and fucked up idiots with shit in their head.

Just saying.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 11:58 AM
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1. You are exactly correct
I have more faith in the American people than to elect this nitwit. After Bush, I am thinking perhaps the voters learned a thing or two about dumbshits in office. :)
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 11:58 AM
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2. This movement is irrelevant except in that they may split the GOP vote
They have no impact on us except for the stupid, knee jerk move to the right our party is making to try to pander to them. Exactly the wrong direction to move which makes me think it's just where they want to go, anyway.
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endless october Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:04 PM
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3. if they were worried about small government....
....then where were the protests when Bush was president? expansion of deficit spending, executive power grabs, the patriot act, etc, etc, etc.

it's just the same old partisan shit repackaged.

and as for why there are fifty million Palin threads, i can't begin to understand. she'll either run or she won't. the Palin obsession reminds me of repubs and their stupid anti-Obama graphics.

we have a majority. we have been appeasing Republicans for the entirety of that majority. because of that (at least partially), we are losing seats.

dear Democratic congress and President Obama : appeasing isn't working. pass the agenda of your core principles and either win or lose on it.

bring the troops home. stop interventionism. pass medicare for all. work to bring back manufacturing.

if the American people vote you out for doing those things, so be it.

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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:07 PM
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4. There were no protests when bush was president
because bush is white. If Obama had not been elected there would be no tea party. Tea Party = KKK.
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:37 PM
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9. Oh, I think there would have been plenty of teabagger type hysteria
if Hillary had won. Maybe a different focus, most likely a lot of rehashing of the various Clinton conspiracies, and plenty of this liberal/socialist/fascism nonsense. I'm sure the RW power brokers already had plans in place to stir up the "grassroots" in case of a Hillary Clinton win. They might have had to scramble a little to come up with additional strategies when Obama started doing so well in the primaries.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:20 PM
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7. My sentiments EXACTLY:
"......dear Democratic congress and President Obama : appeasing isn't working. pass the agenda of your core principles and either win or lose on it......bring the troops home. stop interventionism. pass medicare for all. work to bring back manufacturing.......if the American people vote you out for doing those things, so be it....."
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:43 PM
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10. It's just the same old partisan shit repackaged.
True but there are more than a few corporate hacks within M$Greedia who endorse that partisan shit and have no problem promoting Palin, ReTHUGS and the tea party loonies.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:13 PM
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5. Please DU'ers , read "It Can't Happen Here" by Sinclair Lewis, a novel where
an idiot like Palin wins the presidency with the same kind of campign she is running minus the promise of $5000 per citizen. The fictional character had a book like Palin, and was an idol of the uneducated and uninformed. It can happen here folks, people are stupid in this country.
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:15 PM
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6. I read that book many years ago.
IIRC it was published in about 1938. It still scares the hell out of me.
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Snow Bird Donating Member (95 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:30 PM
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8. And wasn't it also a warning about the rise of Adolph Hilter
Started in the beers halls of Germany, played on the economic and racial fears of the country and of course he had a book too.

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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:01 PM
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12. welcome to DU
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:39 PM
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15. It probably was. Welcome Snow Bird.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:24 PM
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13. Here's the plot, from wiki. Sounds good, in a scary kind of way-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Can%27t_Happen_Here

It Can't Happen Here is a semi-satirical political novel by Sinclair Lewis published in 1935. It features newspaperman Doremus Jessup struggling against the fascist regime of President Berzelius "Buzz" Windrip.

Plot

Berzelius "Buzz" Windrip, a charismatic and power-hungry politician, is elected President of the United States on a populist platform, promising to restore the country to prosperity and greatness, and, more importantly, promising each citizen five thousand dollars a year. Once in power, however, he becomes a dictator; outlawing dissent, putting his political enemies in concentration camps, and creating a paramilitary force called the Minute Men who terrorize the citizens. One of his first moves as president is to make changes to the Constitution which give the President sole power over the country, rendering Congress obsolete. This is met by protest from the congressmen as well as outraged citizens, but Windrip declares a state of Martial Law and, with the help of his Minute Men, throws the protesters in jail. As Windrip dismantles democracy, most Americans either support him and his Corpo Regime wholeheartedly or reassure themselves that fascism cannot happen in America (hence the book's title).

One of the few who openly oppose Windrip's regime is journalist Doremus Jessup, who writes editorials decrying the state's abuses of power. Shad Ledue, head of the state police and Jessup's former employee, terrorizes Jessup, eventually putting him in a camp. He also goes after Jessup's family, attempting to seduce Jessup's daughter, Sissy. Eventually, however, Ledue falls out of favor with Windrip, and he is put in the same camp as Jessup, where he is brutally murdered by the angry inmates he sent to the Camp. With help from a sympathetic guard, Jessup escapes from the camp, rejoins his family, and goes to Canada to join a resistance movement.

Eventually Windrip's hold on power begins to weaken; the economic prosperity he promises has not materialized, and more and more people are fleeing to Canada to escape his government's brutality. Eventually, Windrip's lieutenants stage a coup; Secretary of State and Windrip's number two man, Lee Sarason, becomes president and has Windrip exiled to France. In the ensuing power vacuum, they fight among themselves for control, setting the stage for the regime's self-destruction. After another coup, ousting Sarason in favor of General Haik, the Corpo Regime's power slowly starts seeping away and the government desperately tries to find a way to keep the people happy with the Regime. They decide to stir up patriotic fervor by slandering Mexico in the state-run newspapers, deciding an all-out invasion of the country will rally the American people around the government. But the resulting draft of 5 million men for the invasion splits the country into factions: those pro-war and loyal to the Corpo government, and those anti-war who now see that they have been manipulated for years. The story ends with Jessup in Minnesota, working with Walt Trowbridge, leader of the opposition movement, to end the Fascist regime's hold on the American people.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 01:38 PM
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14. Shad Ledue in the novel (mentioned in the Wikipedia writeup) was actually
the gardener/handyman for Jessup, pre-Windrip.

The novel had the educated government officials and local government leaders replaced by uneducated, Windrip supporters who compare closely with today's teabaggers.

It is amazing how fiction written many years ago is close to being played out now.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-07-10 12:58 PM
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11. She was selected by McCain and the grand old Party and most people
Edited on Sun Feb-07-10 01:03 PM by peacetalksforall
refrained from saying what they felt.

Take a look at the leader - Dick Armey. Perhaps he was a serious politician at one time, but he went the ultra-right hate-spreading way and pretty much became a joke.

I don't think it is a groundswell for her, I think this will make up an interim glue to keep their bigoted, hate and fear spreading voter base active and focused. The last thing they want is to lose any of that voting base - they don't want them figuring out the most notorious theft in history - the bail-out gift to the rich. They don't want them to wake up about that and any revalatory truths coming out about the Cheney-Rumsfeld-Bush regime.

Unite them with more fear and hate and a glamour puss who talke their yubetcha language.

She is a master at truth flipping. She is perfect for this interim crusade.

She and he may not be that great because these people are the most vulnerable people on the planet.
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