Why ar eso many people now allergic to wheat?

My household recently stopped eating wheat. In the last twomonths,w e have given up the costipation (and its opposite) we have traded our fatigue for energy, we have discovered that it ws not our age that was limiting our healthiness but the food staple we were consuming: Wheat.

What is going on with this?

Here is one explanation


What's Wrong with GMOs?
Written by Winston Kao
I have asked numerous people to define the term GMO and I have yet to come across one person who could give a totally correct answer, so I thought it was time to give some space in a newsletter explaining it.

GMO stands for Genetically Modified Organisms. When a plant’s genes are manipulated by the Biotech industry, the result is no longer a plant, due to animal, fungus, and chemical induced genes mixed into it. It is an “organisms.” Disregarding the basic laws of nature, scientists crossbreed plants to animals, fungus, parasites, viruses, antibiotics, petro-chemical fertilizer, fungicides, & herbicides, creating results that can no longer be recognized by Mother Nature as plant or animal. Now you understand what Frankenfood, GE food (Genetic Engineering), & GMO’s are.

A good example is wheat. It has flounder genes (fish), ergot (fungus), petro-chemical fertilizer, herbicide (Round Up) and synthetic hormones…etc which make up the gene composition of your modern GMO wheat. This is why you may not call it a wheat plant because it is not a plant, having multiple organisms’ genes. What does Mother Nature think of GMO wheat? “Well, let’s see,” she scratches her head in bewilderment. “It resembles a plant I created called wheat, but a plant doesn’t contain fish genetic material, nor fungus material, nor chemicals in its genes. The end product is esoteric, bizarre, never ever seen before sugars, proteins, starches… etc. So what do I do with all this weird, basically unrecognizable stuff that you have eaten? I use what I can, then throw a big hammer, called sulphuric acid, to try to break it down, and then the rest creates allergies, disease, and cancer.” You wonder why so many people are allergic to wheat and so many other common foods? Or why they are becoming more acid? Wonder no more.

Two year old information from the Organic Consumers Association (http://www.organicconsumers.org/) stated that lab tests and industry disclosures indicate that 60-70% of all non-organic supermarket food tests positive for the presence of genetically engineered (GE) ingredients. The actual percentage is much higher because there are no labeling law requirements for GMO food. The wholesalers, when purchasing grain, will usually mix non-GMO product with GMO product so the presence of GMO ingredients is probably in the high 90%.
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all have risen as people stopped smoking.

Hmmmm !

:-)

or containing bleached wheat (white bread) or even to air-borne allergins than I do when I smoke (I've stopped a couple of times while pregnant and breast-feeding and far more incidents of lung issues than when I smoke).

You may actually have a point.

GM plants are still plants even though they may contain genes from other organisms like ergot.

You're still a human, even though you've got genes from, for example, viruses.

"it is an organisms" :wtf:

It may be important in determining if it's behind wheat allergies.

This issue concerns me but flinging nonsense in the air isn't how to go about determining reality.

"Did you know that you DO NOT DIGEST THE FOOD YOU EAT? Neither do plants, and animals! Plants do not have the capability to secrete sufficiently strong acids to break down rock in order to obtain the rock’s minerals. What plants do is the same as what you do; consume food, which is then processed by the soil-based microorganisms into material that is then absorbed.

Genetically engineered organisms (planimals) secrete weird, never before seen sugars, starches, proteins, and enzymes to be processed by the soil-based microorganisms. So across the planet, we have 403,200,000 acres of land growing genetically modified organisms, which are secreting UFOs (Unidentified Food Objects) for the naturally occurring 40,000 different types of soil-based microorganisms. In other words, we are, through the usage of UFOs, genetically modifying 40,000 species of naturally occurring soil-based microorganisms. This is something to be really concerned about.

It’s important to share this information because everyone is participating in the consumption of GMO’s. The sky rocketing statistics of cancer and diabetes is not accidental. This is a created statistic. We must not be complacent or our loved ones and we will be part of that statistic."

:rofl:

Man, I wish petro-chemical fertilizer would keep its genes to itself. Only last week, I heard my cousin got married to a tar pit.

Print "contains Genetically Modified Organisms" on the label, and let consumers decide. But you don't want that, do you? Let's here the "science based" excuses for deceptive labeling now... :eyes: :silly:

I can't point my fingers at the farmers.

Well, that's pathetic.

You describe your position as "scientific", but there is nothing "scientific" about your advocacy for keeping consumers ignorant of what they're eating--it's a self-serving corporatist policy point, and not "science" of any kind. :hi:

The article in the OP is full of lies and trying to sell something.

Not labeling things as GMO isn't a lie. And it's not a scientific debate.

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All plants are genetically modified. All livestock is genetically modified. Unless you're going to deny the existence of "agriculture" and "animal husbandry," which really wouldn't surprise me if you did.

No.

This is why you aren't worth engaging, btw.

We have bred animals to have specific characteristics. That's still "modifying," unless you think that's natural selection.

I'm not sure what point you think turns on a parsing of the word "modifying". Why not try to legalese your way around the word "genetic"? Argue that if traits aren't heritable, then modifications aren't truly "genetic"? Both are nonsense word game arguments that get to no point in controversy.

If your argument is that "GMO"s can't be legislatively (not to say scientifically) categorized in such a way as to not intrude upon the ancient practice of selective mating of animals and cultivation of plants," it's also a ridiculous argument.

So basically, what point is it that you think you've made here? :shrug:

Animal or plant husbandry and genetic manipulation via biotechnology is this: when it is done without biotechnology, the genetic material has nothing from outside its own species affecting the plant (or animal). In other words, the strawberry is pollinated with another variety of strawberry, to hybridize the strawberry and bring about some desired trait.

But when it is biotechnology doing the genetic modification, then material from outside the species is used. Thus flounder genes are inserted in the genetic material of the strawberry or tomato. Thus BT (a bacterium o rviral material) is placed inside the corn. It also takes some type of viral material to aid in the process (known as a vector.) Mosaic cauliflower virus is one of the more common vectors.

The position that was held by most people in late sixties and early seventies when some people started complaining about cigarette smoke.

I so clearly remember being told by my boss that the other people smoking in the office couldn't possibly be affecting my health. Never mind that it was a huge room with forty people - and that 25 of them smoked.

GMOs have nothing to do with cigarette smoking in the sixties and seventies.

If you're talking about my pro-science opinion of the shit in your article, it's more like those who opposed patent medicines at the turn of the century.

In the last twomonths,w e have given up the costipation

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To correct those only the AVG virus scanner had taken control. Then I got the announcement from DU that my machine has too many cookies or windows open, and that my corrected post couldn't get online.

you had me worried there! :rofl:

I use Avira AntiVir Personal - Free Antivirus myself. You can download it from download.com and it is free and uses up a lot less space. Have had zero problems with it and I run it on all of my computers (just FYI). :D

And I just heard about the Avira AntiVir Antivirus on Sunday. So you recommend it? AVG worked great for us till we renewed it in December. Now I cannot get it to interface with the internet browser, and it seems to run even when not scheduled.

BTW, if you wanna see more proofreading madness - try this post
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x9245819

I think my friend that sent them has saved them up for a decade or so.

Wow, what a surprise. At the bottom of the page:

"Call me for my health re-education, and in addition, correct your water. Though it may seem expensive to make the water that you drink and bathe in healthy, it is cheaper than handling a major health crisis, is it not?"

that one is my favorite!

If GMO is so safe it should all be openly labeled as such. But the business plan (developed by good ol' Andersen) for GMO products was to flood the market before it could be stopped.
It also helps to destroy the lives of the scientists who have done health studies and found problems.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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viagra jokes abound but seriously, what is going on that this is needed.

or is it really.
just pharma creating a market, is part of the answer I suppose.

We got to the store, meant to buy them only we continued to forget about them. (like when you go to the store because you need toilet paper, you get there and buy everything but!)

And after three days of being without any glutinous foods, I felt so much better.

So much better that my spouse joined me in avoiding wheat.

One of the biggest benefits is that I am no longer hungry all the time. Only when I really truly am hungry.

:wow:

diseases.

He says I have it, but in an unusual form -- totally asymptomatic. That makes it tough to jump into the no wheat regimen.

what makes you think you have it?

That symptom being fatigue.

A doctor with a degree from Univ of Chicago, who diagnosed me, had training in acupuncture, and it was his oriental training that helped him fiugure out what about fourteen "specialists" had msised.

But I had symptoms galore for the gluten intolerance.

Yet both of my doctors missed it - it was only a fluke of not bothering to shop for pasta and bread and feeling great as a result that helped me understand what was going on.

I can' t tell from your post if you are putting me on, or if you have some symptom that leads you to being concerned about your diet?

my mind around the notion that someone can have something that I know is as terrible as celiac disease and have no symptoms.

My lack of imagination or something.

Every third patient of theirs ends up either suffering from a disease while remaining symptom free, or they hypothesize that is what is occurring.

I am fairly convinced that many of our children, diagnosed as needing anti-depressants, are just asymptomatic of hay fever or allergies.

to anything remotely connected to medicine, hospitals, doctors, or nurses, right? Please do not think that anything that occurs on "House" occurs in real life. It doesn't. I'm an ER nurse, and every RN and MD I work with *loathes* "House" (and all the other medical shows) because they are so completely 100% horse-shit. And we actually have people that come to the ER after diagnosing themselves with a non-existent disease, with a non-existent disease process that they saw on House the night before....

But asymptomatic conditions do occur.

And thank you for working hard in a difficult field.

Don't own a TV.

My only symptom was getting a runny nose once or twice a year, during the winter months.

eating things that normally wouldn't cause a problem.

Also, the type of wheat.

How it's grown (pesticides/fertilizers)

How it's stripped of its nutrients in processing.

How it's stored.

Mold in wheat that's been stored.

How it's overly present in our diets.

Lack of other foodstuffs that would help move flour out of our system.

it's confused (not busy enough and looking for something to do?) and attacks the body's own tissues thinking it's "other".

Self diagnosis is not the answer. The test for celiac disease is quite specific. It's necessary to remain on your standard diet until the test is complete. Going off wheat in the presence of true celiac disease will result in a false negative.

Some people with garden variety IBS do feel better if they eliminate wheat because they substitute higher fiber items for all the white flour and that helps regulate them.

Self diagnosis is generally a bad idea, although I see why it's popular with the rotten health system the US has. Just realize something completely different could be causing chronic diarrhea, something serious like parasites, Crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis. It's necessary to get diagnosed. Chronic diarrhea is no joke. It can be fatal.

He and another doctor had been trying to figure out why I was bloated, always tired, usually constipated, or else the opposite. They had run X rays, a cat scan and done blood work to find out if other conditions were present.

I was doing pain meds often, and also was always hungry.

Since eliminating wheat, all of the above conditions have subsided.

I could go back in and see if it truly is a case of celiac, or perhaps I am aggravated by the pesticides or GMO-ness of the wheat. (I used to think I was allergic to apples, but found out years later that it was the pesticides used on apples, not apples per se.)

But after the months of testing, it can wait. I am catching up on living and it's great!

disease or fibromyalgia should eat the stuff. The think is, Monsanto has it's tentacles in so many crops.It's hard to know just what's safe any more!

A disease which is afflicting so many people. One of the books a friend gave me about "Going gluten free" mentions a link between wheat and fibromyalgia.

Then when I'm watching TV, there are the continual ads for the very expensive Lyrica, the "number one pain medication" for fibromyalgia, and the people in the commercial are in a bakery buying wheat products!

That of itself somewhat raises a red flag for me. It does make a person wonder if Big Pharma knows how wheat is impairing the populace.

http://www.nongmoshoppingguide.com/SG/ShoppingGuide/GrainsBeans-Pasta/index.cfm

I just found this website and it has an excellent "Non-GMO Shopping Guide" that you can print out. It is 16 pages long. There is also an area where you can sign a petition to Obama to put meaningful GMO labels on our food products. I'm trying very hard to avoid GMOs myself.

Ask them.

b*sh LIARS all.

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Alyce

and attacks it. This cause irritation and inflamation. I can't recall the mechanics or even the terms anymore. I've been eating sprouted wheat or gluten free, or wheat free for a long time now.

Silver Hills made great wheat free bread but must have changed the recipe the same time they changed their packaging. Now it's sweet and we can't eat it. The only bread that isn't syrupy sweet or bland fluff is almost $6 a loaf. WTF? Ain't no wheat farmer getting rich. And tax dollars subsidize wheat farmers, driving down an already too low price.

I saw Pollan on Democracy Now! and he was great. Obama could have appointed Michael Pollan and not the big agra, anti-organic guy he appointed to watch over our slow poisoning.
http://www.democracynow.org/2010/2/8/michael_pollan_on_food_rules_an

Also, see the film 'Food Inc'

Expensive.

M & I liked the better breads, and we are enjoying the extra money left over now that tortillas and rice are substituting for wheat products.

Thanks for the link to the DU Michael Pollan discussion.

This unlabeled food-facsimile crapola is everywhere -- and the true consequences are UNKNOWN

But the ugly realities of what Genetically Mutant products are doing to soil, plants, animals, and human beings is slowly starting to seep out.

Eventually, there will be an ugly Tsunami of genetically mutant consequences.

Common sense: eat clean food.

The first is whether or not genetically modifying crops causes harms to organisms who eat them. Right now, that is being debated and studied.

But the second is the one that I think a lot of people miss: whether they harm us or not, do we really want one or two corporations to control (own the patent on) the genetic material of food crops?

These genes can migrate to other plants, too. What will be the long-term effect on the ecosystem?

All the upside from GMOs is with Monsanto. All the downside is with consumers.

We're the guinea pigs.

"Occult"?

:thumbsup:

but gluten intolerances and allergies have been with us for a LONG, LONG time. Before we even knew what genes or DNA were. There is really no need to spread FUD about GMO.

You will interrupt all those knees from jerking.

I dont have any allergies that I know of..but I have noticed an odor in the past few years which is offensive to me..everything from a croissant, to english muffin, to store bought bread..I like bread and have been eating my entire life but there is something i cant quite explain about bread products these days..just yesterday I opened a package of english muffins which i havent purchased for years, and there it was..that smell..i toasted it and ate it but i have a feeling the rest of the package will not be eaten..what the hell is that?

That manufacturing/baking firms have people wearing gloves. I cannot stand eating things that have been handled by workers with the rubber gloves. Even butchers now wear themm.

And the point of the gloves is so people do not have to wash their hands. But the gloves are used incorrectly - the deli workers at the large grocery where I shop will wear the same pair that they used to make a sandwich that were used while they pick things off the floor.

Also, with the widespread use of Lysol, Febreeze, Glade etc I assume many products now carry those smells.

To the best of my knowledge, Celiac disease does not abate when people switch to organic/non-GMO wheat. This seems just as bogus as claiming mercury in vaccines causes autism.

The OP is a terrible piece of writing, by the way; that 'interview" with Mother Nature is ridiculous.

CD is an intolerance to oats, barley and rye as well as wheat.

Sid

Often I am not so much allergic to an item, as to associated problems with that item. For years I thought I was allergic to apples, but now that I can buy organic apples, I can eat them.

I never eat oats or barley or rye. Stopped eating oats due to anemia - oats leach iron from your system.

I don't drink cider though, because I cannot tolerate mold, and often cider is moldy, even if it is labelled organic.

because she wasn't absorbing nutrients, she wasn't growing and thriving as a child, and was very lethargic. Once her pediatrician saw the anemia, he began to think CD right away. Blood tests and an intestinal biopsy confirmed CD.

We've found the best success with her diet is with food items that happen to be GF, rather than specially GF foods. The exception is her bread (which can't be eaten unless toasted) and cereal (Enviro-Kids Koala Krisp - chocolate flavoured rice krispies). We eat a lot of rice in our house (Zatarain's Jambalaya mix and Dirty Rice mix are both GF), and mashed potatoes with butter, cream cheese are also a fave.

Best of luck with the your change in diet :)

Sid

in the long run, she will be so much healthier avoiding all those "normal" junk
foods that kids eat.

she's caught up to her classmates in terms of height, and has the normal energy of a 12 year-old.

Sid

I know a few people with Celiacs and I eat gluten free about 75% of the time.

It's true though, when I eat wheat I'm more gassy (sorry) and bloated feeling and tired.

Anyone who thinks it's a made up thing but typically feels like sh*t for the next few hours after they eat, try a gluten free diet and you'll start feeling better after 2 weeks or so.

Also, Amazon has lots of gluten free foods on sale all the time, plus you can save more by signing up for a subscription where they send it to you on a regular basis (like even every 6 months). Just search for "gluten free" on amazon.

are now intolerant of these products than before? I mean, that would seem to be the starting position in this, yet I don't see any such statistics.

Other time in my life, yet the majority of people I know - across the board - are either gluten intolerant, or have a spouse or child that is.

Everyone from older women in my Women's Group, to neighbors to the neighborhood grocery cashier.

Now maybe this is somehow an anomaly - like I just happen to be the center of the universe in terms of a gluten intolerance cluster, or something is happening across the board.

However health practitioners who have been writing for the last ten years about gluten intolerance, IBS, and celiac disease say that diets with wheat lead to fibromyalgia. And the number of cases of fibromyalgia are really on the rise. I could google some stats on that I am sure, and post them later today.

incidents are increasing but because awareness is. As I indicate further down, I was diagnosed with and treated for FMS for almost six years before we discovered it was celiac.

If the immune system isn't busy fighting good ol regular cooties, it has too much time to contemplate other things and allergies increase. That was basically what I got from several articles and some studies.

We are too clean and our immunity guards are lookin for something to do. Betting they make some connections to antibiotic overuse as part of the trigger too.

My last "Corporate job" was out in the field with developmentally disabled adults and they were being taught as part of Independent Living Skills to use an ounce of anti microbial soap on every surface connected with food.

So you would see one of the clients pouring this anti-microbial soap into a used frying pan, and scrub it, and then hardly rinse it off, then dry it and put it away.

Why would anyone need anti-microbial soap on a frying pan? (Or Dutch oven, or other oven utensil.) the intense heat applied to such vessels ensures there are no germs.

But since those soaps are so hard to rinse off, they must be inside us, and heavens knows if having that much soap and Anti bacterial gunk coating our digestive organs and intestines is doing us much good.

are all a little different but are essentially reactions to the protein in wheat, barley and rye. I don't know what the stats are, but I have heard all of these combined are definitely on the rise.

I was diagnosed with celiac disease this past summer after suffering what were essentially fibromyalgia symptoms for almost six years. A gluten-free diet has made me an entirely new person.

I have read that the protein in wheat has genetically changed since the ancient wheats grown thousands of years ago. But from what I understand that genetic change has occurred naturally over time and is not the result of laboratory GMOs.

I thought it was bullshit. Like most smartasses, I learned the hard way that allergies are real and they will make you miserable.

I now get all headachey, achy, sneeze a lot, and have a runny nose when the pollen count goes up.

So, now that I realize allergies DO exist, I take over the counter meds when it flares up to alleviate some of the symptoms. Some people may claim I am self diagnosing or full of shit, but I don't really care. I need relief and I'm going to do what it takes to feel better. It's not like going to a health professional is ever going to be a feasible alternative for me. We STILL don't have health care reform and I STILL don't have health insurance or the money to self-pay.

So, I do what I feel is best for me. If it kills me down the road, I will concentrate on alleviating the pain and deal with it. It's not like I have much of a choice. Thanks for nothing, U.S. government and greedy health insurance companies.

If giving up wheat is helping your family feel better, more power to ya.