Peyton Manning walked off the field Sunday without shaking hands

with any of the Saints players. He did call Brees that night to congratulate him, but I'm wondering why this has been played down and not at least a little outrage over this bad form. I understand he was upset, but geez. Brees said he understood how he felt and then went on to Disney World. Thought Manning was a better sport than this...

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/blog/shutdown_corner/post/Peyton-Manning-storms-off-Super-Bowl-field-Is-h?urn=nfl,218314

conduct!

This OP is a smear job all the way. The fact is that Manning would probably not have been able to find Brees in the massive celebration on the field. It should also be noted that Drew Brees and Peyton Manning are good friends. Brees has offered in interviews that while Peyton was already an NFL star he called Brees when he was quarterback at Purdue University and gave him words of encouragemnet and support during a rough period in his college career. Brees has stated that he was awestruck that an NFL star quarterback would reach out to him while he was still a nobody.

Manning is a class act and this post is nothing more than a smear job.

Cheers, Vinnie.

:toast:

Do not interrupt the Brain Trust!

My dad was rooting for the Colts because he's a NY Giants fan and was cheering on Eli's brother. ;)

surprised babylonsister.

ugh...

I did not know that.

I hate his guts, so there :P

And bite this Colts fan.

So, justifying the attitude of "winning at all costs" with no other consideration (including, to the point a diminishing of norms of civility)--- that's ok with you? Sorry attitude that I hope you won't pass on to the next generation of sports enthusiasts.

It's not at all about how he conducted himself during the game - just whether he shook hands after. I think he probably should have, but I don't fault him for not doing it. He called Brees later. If Brees isn't upset, why should anyone else be?

You linked to an article that disagrees with your position. That's why I thought you hadn't read it.

who are you responding to? The linked article suggests a disdain for players who do not focus only on winning, as it suggests lack of dedication that the fans should expect. I find that disgusting, immature, and uncivil.

When you replied "I read it," I didn't look at your username and assumed that I was in a conversation with the OP.
The only reason I really posted at all was that I thought it silly that the OP linked to an article that disagrees with her.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but we take away different things from the linked article. The point it makes about professional athletes who don't seem to care is just a reality in professional sports. Coaches and players who aren't dedicated are going to get cut, traded, fired.

The linked article also says:

"Being a good sportsman is playing fair, respecting the game and giving credit after to an opponent. Manning did all those things Sunday."

Peace.

"Being a good sportsman is playing fair, respecting the game and giving credit after to an opponent. Manning did all those things Sunday."

Bullshit. Showing good sportsmanship means also following the expected traditions of of civility and sportsmanship even when you don't feel like it.

Before Bob Irsay died, I couldn't stand the colts winning, because what an ass that man was, turns out the best thing to happen to that team, is him dieing, his son is one of the best owners in the league, who knew?!

Peyton Manning is a spoiled child, He's also one of the best in the game.

Never said I was a good sport.

All joking aside, that game was rife with officiating problems. Bad calls everywhere, even when reviewed on tape! The Stealers really lived up to their name on that one!

IMO players shouldn't be held to to when and how they want to congratulate. As long as it's done.

No matter how strongly you want to win, that does not excuse you from the common courtesy of respecting your opponent and the game itself when it's over. Shaking hands doesn't mean you didn't want to win. It means you're big enough to take 30 seconds to publicly respect your opponent (whether you won or lost) before you celebrate or mourn in your own way. IMO.

until I've lost a Super Bowl, and done better

him God for all time. That's what he gets for believing the hype.

They were setting up the stage for the Saints and he was just letting them celebrate. If I were in Manning's position, I think I would have gone over there anyway, but I think what he did is acceptable.

He appears in several already. It could have been more if the Colts won.

heck you could be right.

everybody's so quick to pounce (myself included).

The Saints are deservedly too busy celebrating too. Nothing really wrong here.

*drumroll*

It isn't worthy of "outrage."

Ever feel like some people around here have some sort of addiction to "outrage?"

I've seen that line from you twice on two totally different threads within the last fifteen minutes now..

Are you sure you're not addicted to being outraged about outrage?

Most people wait until they've been part of a community for a while before they start getting outraged about its behavior.

Just pointing out observations. Since they're true, it doesn't matter how long I've been around. Also, this is a trend in general, outside of these boards.

On the part of others..

One observation would be just that, two observations of the very same point in entirely different threads becomes an indication of obsession.

It's interesting that your observations are "truth" while everyone else's are "obsession"..

isn't it?

Oh, the humanity!!!!

so It's Clinton's fault too.

it's that it's always Clinton's fault in one way or another.

You could see how upset he was from the 2nd Q on while he was sitting on the sideline.

Its that desire to play that not only makes him one of the better quarterbacks, but also undermines him on being a gracious loser.

He is the one that threw the interception and he was probably the one that chose to go for it on fourth and short when he should have just let them punt.

He knew the Saints are unmatched at taking the ball away, and so he tried to play it conservatively and keep the ball out of the air. That didn't work out so well for him.

Anyway, the Saints earned that victory, and it seems sort of a--holish for Peyton not to congratulate them for it. Might be some daddy issues there, though. I have a feeling that his old man was rooting for the other team.

I think he was just upset. i actually like the guy but the lose was his fault.

with winning sports teams: complacency. They played as if they expected to win and didn't have much of an opponent, and therefore, they didn't have to play too hard. By the time they figured out that NO was on fire and determined, it was really too late. I don't care how "favored" you are by the "experts", that never really matters in the end. What matters is how you play and NO proved that once again.

I didn't really have a dog in this fight, didn't really care one way or the other (since the Vikings lost, that is, lol), but I will say that it is nice to see a formerly down-and-out and long-suffering team that has never won it before win the Super Bown. The Colts had already been there and won it and been a winning team most of the decade, so they'd had their chance at glory. If they wanted to win, they should have damn well played like it instead of taking it for granted and "phoning in" their game.

If i hated manning i would probably be over joyed. As its stands though, i guess im glad to see a NO team do so well consider past events at home. They need something to cheer about.

and then 4 incompletes...he's a putz.

Quite honestly, I'd be surprised if they could have found each other. It was a zoo around Brees. Probably a lesson to some future stars, think about who you should meet afterwards and arrange a spot. 50 yrd line is probably a bad place.

he probably ran off the field in tears. The game was pretty much his to lose.

just have them line up at the 50 yard line.

The NHL does it after the Stanley Cup has been won,

It isn't a big deal either way, afaic.

nt

If it were a black player it would have BLOWN UP. Say TO won OR lost, wouldnt even matter.. A black dude pulls some shit like that and he will be on Sportscenter for a week straight.

Can there be just simply 'disappointment'?

From the link in the OP:

"For the record, Peyton did call Brees later in the night. Said the Saints quarterback: "Peyton's a class guy." If the man who was supposedly snubbed thinks so, that's enough for me."

"outrage" is the new crack for some people. It has become a cultural phenomenon really.

I think using the word "outrage" to refer to anything from mild disappointment to actual outrage is the real phenomenon.

just for situations like this.

""outrage" is the new crack for some people..."

Second only to the criticism of the inferred outrage.

Typically, childish cock-slap fights like this about athletes go down there.

My guess would be that he was very emotional and didn't want to be seen, much less photographed, in tears. He did call Brees later, so good on him for that.

He once thrust his naked ass into a female trainer's face. He's certainly no gentleman, and his lack of sportsmanship in this case is no surprise at all.

I didn't know this. :-(

because a person of character would be gracious enough to congratulate the other side (or at least *try*) on the field at the time of his defeat. Anything less than that is just an afterthought on advice of his agent.

"He did call Brees that night to congratulate him..."

"Brees said he understood how he felt..."

Bam. Done.

:grr: :D

What a selfish prick.

What, he's not allowed to feel bad or pissed about losing?

He makes millions of dollars a year. I refuse to feel sorry for him because he "was in tears". If anyone else did it they would be skewered in the press but because it is the great Peyton Manning he gets a pass. He won one Superbowl. Roethlisberger and Brady have won more. He is also classless on other occasions.

calling them, and the entire organization, the worst names possible.

In fact, BB has been blasted for not shaking hands with his opponent coach.

So why is Peyton treated with kid gloves all the time?

I know about the lawsuit (mentioned above), but he paid his price, he apologized and now he spends his time off the field handing out food, baby formula, diapers and essentials to the people of Louisiana after Katrina, donating tons of money and time to disadvantaged children and supporting the Red Cross, human rights and AIDS prevention.

I'm not excusing Peyton's behavior, but, unlike many other athletes and politicians, Peyton seems to have learned from his mistakes (the "buttgate" incident was in 1997).

Even if he's tried to make it up and learn from it. Whatever. I don't care. I like the Mannings. They are very talented athletes. I rooted for the Saints hardcore, but I didn't root against Manning.

:hide:

I think it's time we got serious about sports in this nation. When a player doesn't wade through a wild post-game celebration to congratulate his opposite number, haven't we lost something vital? As a nation and as a society. I remember the great debate when the Bad News Bears lost the championship to the Yankees on a technicality, and one of the Bears offered the Yankees the option of shoving their championship trophy up their collective ass. Oh, we thought of the children that day, let me tell you.

If a professional sports athlete isn't going to knock down a celebrating fan or a pom-pom waving cheerleader or two (or ten), then what have we come to? At long last? I ask you? Would a public hanging be enough? Would these overpaid, pampered gods of the arena finally come to understand their proper role in our society, and how they must never, ever, at any time or in any place disappoint anyone anywhere? Because as sure as God made little green apples, we should make an example of this, this player from Indianapolis before the summer time.

:evilgrin:

Nothing will be made right until we hear the screams of Peyton Manning echoing into the night!

Regrettable, but how else can we as a society possibly demonstrate how ultra-civilized we are about post-game formalities?

Is it enough to stop with Peyton Manning's vivisection, or should his punishment be visited on the rest of his teammates, the city of Indianapolis razed to the ground, and the site sown with salt? We MUST demonstrate how serious this problem is; not for our sake, but for the sake of our children. And our children's children. To the ninth generation. So. Mote. It. Be.

I'm not in any way a Manning fan but FFS, if he had stayed on the field to shake everyone's hand, then the same folks would probably be bashing him for trying to steal the Saints' limelight.

those people probably would have been pretty "outraged" at the whole deal...

DU would be calling for his immediate execution.

dg

Positing the Cowboys in the Super Bowl is just ludicrous, and exposes you as a non-serious participant in this Very Important Discussion. Hang your head in shame, and if you're a Cowboys fan, you should be quite accustomed to that.

Appeared in 8
Won 5

So not as ludicrous as it appears on the surface.

However, the virulent anti-Cowboys sentiments on DU is so bad, people were actually cheering last fall when their training camp was struck by severe weather & several people were seriously injured. All this talk about alleged "bad sportmanship" by Manning is a bit hypocritical.

dg

donald trump?

sarah palin?

who else?

more than enough reason to loathe the cowpies

... and I'll show you someone who loses a lot." Coach Jimmy circa 1983 :evilgrin:

How many of them are frauds? Heroes until we discover they abused steroids.

How many have beat up their wives/girlfriends? (Or husbands/boyfriends, for that matter...couldn't think of any off the top of my head.)

How many have been abusive to animals?

How many live life in the fast lane, always wanting MORE MORE MORE but never stopping to pass on their good fortune by helping others?

How many cheat on their wives/husbands/significant others?

How many abuse illegal drugs?

Good sportsmanship seems to be a thing of the past. These people are supposed to set a good example for kids today, and by and large they don't. They are spoiled, overpaid, and I do not support sports anymore, nor do I watch them on television. There is no fun in it anymore for me.

Sharper says Saints aren't dirty, but "a little grimy"
Posted by Mike Florio on February 3, 2010 3:18 PM ET

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2010/02/03/sharper-says-saints-arent-dirty-but-a-little-grimy/?related=1

With the Saints sending quarterback Kurt Warner woozy into retirement a week and a day before turning Brett Favre's leg and foot a deeper shade of purple than his helmet, the Saints are now being faced with the accusation that they play dirty on defense.

Safety Darren Sharper addressed the subject on Wednesday.

"We don't know if we want to call ourselves dirty," Sharper said. "t is like taking a shower when you get up in the morning and are going to cut your grass. You are nice and fresh when you cut the grass, but at the end you have a little griminess to you. We want to call ourselves a little grimy; not dirty all the way, but just maybe a little grimy. That is how we like to play."

......

This years Super Bowl was tainted because of it in my book.

In football, there are going to be injuries. Favre whines and cries about his bruises when other players are much more seriously injured.

Hell people forget that a good chunk of the Saints team were out for a few games due to injuries. This is a contact sport-not one where players make room for Queen Brett to throw his ball.

And if Favre hadn't thrown that Fail Mary, the Vikings would've been in the Super Bowl anyway. So that makes all of the excuses about bad refs and "dirty" players moot. Trash talk from a player does not equal poor sportsmanship on the field.

At least the majority of Colts fans seem classy about losing. You can't say that about a lot of Vikings fans who are still complaining.

Anyway Peyton called Brees to congratulate him so I don't see any controversy. I can understand not being able to congratulate in person due to the chaos.

I don't really care who won because my team wasn't in the mix, but I do think that kids seeing this kind of violence and attack mode assaults should be told this is not the best way to play football. Football is violent enough played within the rules!

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try to find them.

So you were there at the game monitoring Peyton's every move were you?

I guess you did not think much of the part of my post where I offered that Drew Brees and Manning are, in fact, good friends.

are defending him because they always do...in many people's eyes he can do no wrong, like this, like blaming Wayne (by inference, like the slimy little rodent Payless is) for the interception, but Porter read Payless' look. The fewer mannings in the world, the better.

your eagerness to wear it like crown.

I find it amusing that you simply ignore the very real fact that Manning and Brees happen to be good friends.

Here is a little more reality for you:

"When Brees quarterbacked Purdue, he often went to Colts game and hung around after the games to talk to Manning. Manning even made the short trip over to Purdue for a round of golf with Brees.

"Our relationship has grown since then," Peyton Manning said. "I have always said that quarterbacks kind of stick togetgher. It's a unique fraternity. ... My parents have gotten to know Drew and his family and he's a neighbor of my brother Coooper. Drew has committed his efforts in the philanthropy part of the city, to the rebuilding of the city. As a native of New Orleans, I certainly appreciate that."

http://www.clarionledger.com/article/20100207/SPECIAL/2070322

You like fruit?

How do you like 'dem apples?

YOu can't really blame him. His team got bounced by the Jets, and that's bound to make anyone a bitter, useless shell of a human being.

...

"I'll certainly talk to Drew,'' he said. "I know how it was three years ago when we won, and there's not much consolation for the guys that didn't win. There's the stage being set up, and the celebration, and it's time for the Saints to celebrate. It's their field. They deserve the moment. But I certainly congratulate all their players and the Saints organization. I will speak to Drew, speak to Sean and they deserve all the credit.''

I'm sure the Saints would have much rather celebrated than be told, "atta boy."

For the record, the Colts and the Saints are my two favorite teams and The Who is my favorite band. I was happy with the whole evening.

The smearing of him on this thread is mindless idiocy. Brees and Manning are, in fact, very good friends. It was Manning that reached out to Brees when he was struggling while playing at Purdue. Bress has stated in interviews that Manning's words of support and encouragment meant a great deal to him. He was simply awestruck that an NFL star would go out of his way to call him and encourage him while he played at Purdue.

This handshake smear is simply nonsense.

Apparently he's not allowed to be human and feel bad about losing the freaking super bowl.

Didn't you get the memo?

He's an arrogant repuke dick.

Huge in charities, hospitals and helping out. He was down in NO after Katrina helping out. What have you done?

after working an entire year one can appreciate the position he was in.:-)

After all, don't we drill sportsmanship into our kids in every sporting event. Shake hands, respect the opponent, etc. etc.

Poor form Peyton, there's no excuse not to do the right thing.

He's not allowed to feel bad or be pissed about losing?

But you know, we teach our kids good sportsmanship, part of that is shaking the opponents hand before and after the game. This holds through virtually all the sports at all the levels. It is poor form for Manning to simply walk off the field like that. Yeah, you're pissed, sad, whatever, but suck it up and do the right thing.

Like it or not, pro sports figures are role models for our kids and as such they have the obligation to behave in a mature, sportsmanlike way. Manning didn't, and it is a black mark on his career.

If he had never called Brees then that would have been a black mark.

Men and women who reach the level Brees and Manning do so in part because they are super-competitive. They want to win. And Manning prepared for a battle for a long time and did his best but he still lost. He's not allowed to feel bad? He didn't scream, curse or start throwing things. He walked off the field to deal with it and to allow the Saints to have their day. He's human, I don't expect perfection.

And neither does Brees. They have a personal relationship from before the SB and I'll bet dollars to donuts he understood.

Like athletes both in football and other sports aren't hypercompetitive? Like the ones on the losing end don't have the same range of emotions that Manning did? Like championships in any sport, at any level, aren't emotionally charged?

But you know what, the athletes and coaches, both in football and other sports, championship or regular season game, suck it up and go and do the right thing. It isn't about Manning, it isn't about Brees, it isn't about their relationship. It is about sportsmanship, about doing the right thing, about being a good role model. And Manning simply failed.

No excuse.

It's about time someone said this. :applause:

Manning don't make a scene, he withdrew without calling attention to himself and congratulated his equal in private later.

Yeah, he could have made big public show handshake but he didn't and it's not a big deal.

I just don't like how the press seems determined to smear Manning.

They are simply shocked at his lack of sportsmanship. It has happened before and the press has held the perpetrator responsible, as they should.

No excuse for poor sportsmanship, and that's what Peyton exhibited.

He congratulated Brees later that night. He has a personal relationship with him and knew what to do.

This is smearing plain and simple.

Good sportsmanship, you go out, meet your opponent at mid-field, congratulate them on a good game, whether you win or lose.

Poor sportsmanship, you leave the field, ignore your opponent to sulk in the locker room.

Peyton exhibited poor sportsmanship, plain and simple.

The entire team, staff and fans swamp the field after a SB win. They're not not interested in shaking hands with the defeated team. It's not organized like the NHL championship.

Manning congratulated them in private and in the press. He fulfilled the requirements of good sportsmanship.

IIRC, that would have been a touchdown, and have given the Colts a chance for an onside kick and maybe a "Hail Mary" pass or something.

The whole game was decided by the big interception/touchdown that essentially resulted in a 14 point swing.

I'm sure Manning was upset, and maybe he just realized that he wouldn't be able to hold it together if he had to fight through the crowd, find Brees, and look gracious for the world's TV cameras.

Maybe that's poor sportsmanship, or maybe it's just being a human who's just failed to achieve something supremely important to himself, his team, and their fans.

He made the call later when he'd had a chance to compose himself, and he deserves credit for that.

"He's not allowed to feel bad or be pissed about losing?"

The game? Or the additional endorsements he would have picked up...? Difficult to infer these days.

My fiance owned a bar in Indy....Peyton would come in from time to time...he was a pompous ass who tipped poorly.

GO SAINTS!

He may tipped poorly but he was in NO after Katrina helping out, what were you doing?

He "supposedly" left a signed picture of himself as a tip in Hattiesburg. People will say whatever they want to about someone they don't like. Especially when it comes to athletes. For every person who has something nasty to say, there are probably 10 more who have postive things to say.

I was at work, trying to earn a living.

Now, if I was a multi-millioniare that only works 1/2 of a year, I would have been there.

Oh, and I fixed my profile just for you. I had no idea it was hidden. :-)

I know many who have waited on him, his dad, and his brother in Oxford, and they have all said they were funny and nice.

And he told her that the entire family is delightful.

his wife way back when. So she is friends with her. I've always heard nice things about him, but being from MS, I can see why! But that isn't the case with Favre. There are many down here who do not like him. My husband and his company did some work on his yard, and my husband says he's a nice guy. You never know. People will always have something negative to say about someone.

I'm just relating my fiance's experience.

I always like to go to different places around Indy. Maybe I went there!

Saints got the score instead on the interception.

as a show to all that the fade away jerk hand shake in public is classier than a personal phone call in private.

poor sportsmanship.

What you do after a game is man-up and shake hands with your opponent.

I'm not outraged, just saying it's bad form.

and a fascist

How is a fascist? :eyes:

This should be hilarious.

he's a football player.

:rofl:

Please expand on your theory!

the ruthless might-makes-right attitude, the lack of moral reflection, the over-the-top stylized ritual, the absolute ownership by corporations, the excessive military emphasis (bombs, strikes, blitzes), the fervent nationalism, the misogyny, the emphasis on "competition" rather than cooperation, and the drooling worship of violence by the cultists.

Football is fascism.

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If it is, I'll admit it. You got me.

Because you're at liberal caricature level 5.

Also, "competition rather than cooperation"? They're on teams! They have to work together or they wouldn't win!

Corporations are among the most ruthlessly competitive entities ever to evolve on our planet.

"might-makes-right"? You need to stop watching the line of scrimmage and take in the rest of the game.

I've always thought it to be much more like politics: misdirection and deception, punctuated by last-second reversals of intent sometimes impeded by poor communication.

You'd have a lot more credibility if you just admitted that you didn't like the game, therefore you didn't understand it because you didn't study it's philosophy, than making BS claims as you just did.

But hey, at least you didn't describe it as a fertility ritual with the ball itself representing an ovum like I've seen done right here at DU within the last year...

so, in a way, you are right although all the deception you describe apply equally to politics and war.

Naziism (a cultish variant of fascism) did emphasize fertility rites, so that's not far off either.

Sieg Heil!

I played four years of football in school. Back in those days, most of us played both defense and offense. I was a center, pulling guard in a wishbone offense, a tight end, an outside linebacker and a free safety. I don't dislike the game; I just recognize its role in our culture.

He just lost a huge game. What, he's not allowed to be piss or feel bad?

He left the field so the Saints could celebrate.

:hide:

Anyone have any figures?

At least Peyton can fall back on those Justin Timberlake commercials when the game has passed him by.

unless, of course, you're really Peyton Manning, as seems likely enough. :P

It's just amusing that you're calling a Manning a loser. He's already one of the greatest of all time.

It's funny.

And technically he was the loser that day.

But Peyton Manning isn't a loser by any stretch.

Or which games they've won. Winning and losing in life isn't about games, or money, or other such metrics. It is about you, how good a person you are, how you treat your fellow human being, how you go through life. Some of the biggest winners I ever saw were homeless. Some of the biggest losers had millions.

You're right and Peyton Manning proves that. He runs charities, gives to hospitals and was in NO helping after Katrina. He's known in Indiana as a great guy.

He and Brees are friends, the press is smearing him.

Get off the pedestal, you're not that original.

Like that's all that matters in life?

Speaking of melodrama.

Be happy your team won but to call either Brees or Manning losers? That doesn't make sense. Both men have reached the heights of their profession so calling them losers doesn't fit. It's childish. One lost game does not a loser make. Manning already has a SB ring, he has nothing to prove.

So I ask people for their accomplishments when they call great men and women losers.

you share part of your username with one of New Orleans' parading Carnival krewes! For all I know, the Krewe of Proteus may have been one of the ten that loaned floats (which were already ready for parades between now and Mardi Gras, a week from today) for the Saints' victory parade this evening.

http://www.kreweofproteus.com

Proteus is the Second oldest Parade at New Orleans Mardi Gras. Founded in 1882, Proteus ("PROH tee us") The shepherd of the Oceans, is an early sea-god, one of several deities whom Homer the Old Man of the Sea has always held elaborate masked Tableau Balls and the most beautiful Street Parade to date.

in 1893 the Krewe first introduced the tradition of call outs, Where masked costumed Krewe members invited ladies in attendance to step out on the dance floor with them. This custom was then adopted by many other Krewes including Rex.

The Identity of the King of Proteus is never revealed to the public. His Parade float is a giant Seashell and very march part of the New Orleans Carnival scene for generations.

I hope parade goes well.

What's the relationship to Wales there?

:D

Today's parade is gonna make next Tuesday's Mardi Gras and Fat Tuesday look like a little kids birthday party!!

:hi:

I hate that pouty-faced whiner.

I hate that pouty-faced whiner.

its not?
the stakes are the same; a game, a little reputation, community pride. anything beyond that is extraneous BS and obscene money. (lick that Oreo Payton!!!)

in little league we were told to shake hands and to be a good sport to build character.
i could care less what people do after the game is done these days, its a three ring circus already.

if winning is everything, hell.. lets just take it back to the Colloseum days.

The post game stuff should be about the winning team, not picking apart the carcasses of the losers.

Figured he was really pissed off, plus that field got awfully crowded awfully fast. Didn't real care then, don't really care now.

The Saints won, Brees was great on Letterman, life goes on.

And I'm a Saints fan from the beginning!! In the pandemonium on the field right after the game, do you think it was possible to even cross the field to congratulate Brees and Payton? Peyton Manning and his family are good friends with Drew and Brittany Brees. This wasn't an intentional slight at all!! Non issue, Brees and most of the Who Dat Nation are not offended. We're too busy celebrating "Lombardi" Gras today on Dat Tuesday!!!!!!!

....I can tell you that much.

:P

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

...

That's behavior I'd attribute to his jackass brother. I thought Manning had more class.

He is a god in Oxford. But so is Archie. But everyone that I know in Oxford always talked about how nice of a guy he is.

His behavior when he was drafted was a disgrace. I've known actual babies with more decorum. Plus, he is not bright, and his skills are mediocre at best. He trades on his family name moreso than anything he's personally accomplished (including catching lightning in a bottle to receive an un-deserved Super Bowl ring).

Or to put it another way, I don't care for him.

he is a stand up guy. To each their own.

I'm basing my opinion purely on my own observations. I don't know what he's like as a private individual. I just don't have any respect for him as a sportsman.

Seriously, did anyone here go to high school.

I was good at basketball, and that let me get away with a lot of stuff in school.

That's why jocks are the way they are.

It was General Patton who said, "Show me a good loser and I will show you a loser."

Cut Peyton some slack. That was tough.

Walt

Lighten up.

When you have ritual, there's none of this "who should have sought out whom" crap. In the NHL these guys beat the hell out of each other for a best-of-7 series, the game ends, you have a few minutes of pandemonium but then everyone knows what to do next...

- the teams line up and shake hands

- they roll out the little red carpet

- Bettman walks out - everyone boos

- the playoff MVP Conn Smythe trophy is awarded. Recipient is happy but looks like he doesn't quite know what to do with it, since he just wants to get his hands on The Cup

- which comes next - Captain poses for photos with Bettman and Cup, then begins the first of numerous Cup skates by the victors

- Finally, team picture on-ice with the Cup front-and-center

- Adjourn to dressing room for champagne and hijinks

Brings a tear to my eye just thinking about it all. If I ran a pro sport I'd steal as much of this as I thought possible.

I love that part. I'm starting to think Bettman does, too.

I'm bringing this up at the next meeting.

... tear them down.

I was rooting for the Saints, but I could give a rat's ass about this perceived slight. Especially if he called later.

There's a lot of emotion associated with losing a Super Bowl. I can forgive someone that doesn't maintain their absolute best behavior for a couple of hours.

Just thinkin' with my fingers...

...no matter what team you're on.

Some people really aren't great when it comes to sportmanship.

Does it need to be an issue?