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unc70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 09:03 PM
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NY AG Cuomo complaint against BofA is deliberately misleading
Edited on Wed Feb-10-10 09:21 PM by unc70
I already posted I thought it likely that Cuomo was making a big show going after "Wall Street" by going after one of the few large banks not in NY, BofA located in NC, and not after any of those with political clout in NY. I decided to read the filing (all 90 pages) before considering the merits of the case.

(Edit to remove distracting side comment unrelated to issues with the complaint.)

As I started reading the complaint, I noticed statements like someone "knew or should have known" some fact, then appeared in the next claim stating as fact that he knew and having known then deliberately mislead some other party.

Later in the details sections the language becomes even weaker "knew or were reckless or negligent in not knowing" while still building the case that they had knowingly lied and mislead others. As I saw this repeated throughout the document, I realized the AG lacked proof that those at BofA actually knew at the time various things that maybe they should have known.

What was the pervasive problem with what those at BofA "knew" about the losses, given the direct statements that ML was transparent and disclosed fully those same items? What key fact was barely noticed among other items? A little study, and there it was starting on Page 14, par 63. The reports provided by ML had been changed to track actual losses to date and not projected losses for the entire quarter, but the labels had not been changed accordingly.

"Thus while the reports contained anachronistic labels like "forecast" and "projection", they in fact tracked actual losses."

Who at BofA knew that what might appear to be an estimate of losses for the full quarter was in fact the actual losses quarter-to-date?! When did they find out?

If one assumes that none of those at BofA had realized the problem until after the delivery by ML of the November report Friday night, Dec 5, hours after the shareholder vote, then the actions by BofA appear appropriate.

The complaint even allows that someone lacking this key fact would be mislead by the numbers. It just uses that as a further claim against those at BofA, implying that they were certainly aware of this problem.


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Hawkeye-X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 09:11 PM
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1. So because BoRA helps NC, thus you like 'em?
Fine, let them be your local bank, but their tentacles has to got to stop.

I quit BoA after they decided to increase my interest from 15% to 29%. That's usury by definition, and therefore robbing me.

I'm slowly weaning off CC, and writing off all CC debts.

Hawkeye-X
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unc70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 09:20 PM
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2. No, that is why I actually read the complaint before making Cuomo a hero
I have a lot of complaints with today's version of BofA, particularly the crap with the CCs.

None of that matters to whether the complaint is BS so I will remove that part since it is a distraction.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 09:23 PM
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3. Lewis has virtually admitted to multiple felonies
so while I agree with your original point, it is for the totally opposite reason. I see this Cuomo complaint as grandstanding because it's not even a criminal complaint, which is surely the kind of complaint that needs to be filed to make sure this financial fiasco doesn't happen again.
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unc70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 08:11 PM
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22. Not criminal complaint because AG lacks adequate proof
I noticed several curious things when reading Cuomo's Complaint against BofA and as I followed their implications and tried to answer new questions, I realized that there was an alternative narrative for the events that seemed plausible to me, that better explained the actions of those at BofA, and not in conflict with facts in the Complaint or otherwise known to me.

I fully believe that at least some of those who wrote the complaint were well-aware of this alternative narrative because a few critical facts are "explained away" in seemingly unrelated sections, making them seem of little importance and obscuring the connections among them.

The intriguing question now is why were a couple of these facts even made part of the formal complaint. I have a theory needing some research and will post updates to my journal as I know more.
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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 09:12 PM
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24. Now I'm intrigued
I'll keep an eye out to see what narrative you've got in mind!

In terms of criminal actions there are securities-related felonies that I believe would be solid prosecutions, and I really have to wonder - with all this malfeasance on Wall Street, why are so few people in jail for it?
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unc70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 02:08 AM
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27. Link to narrative, plus other items of intrigue in Cuomo v BofA complaint
I have some of the narrative posted here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7694561

with some previous items now added to my DU Journal. I will post additional findings in those areas because this thread was unreced quickly and will remain nearly invisible.

There are several even more intriguing aspects of this and related investigations. Several of them involve why so many civil cases and so few criminal ones. Some of the reasons are fairly obvious: preponderance of evidence vs beyond reasonable doubt; admissibility of evidence; rights of defendants.

I suspect (awaiting confirmation) that using civil complaints avoids the Brady requirements on prosecutors in criminal cases for disclosure of exculpatory information to defendants in a timely fashion. The NY criminal requirements are already restrictive, requiring only the disclosure of "material" exculpatory items (not "all") with the prosecutor deciding between "material" and "incidental". From my limited understanding of NY law in such matters, it appears that Cuomo is under no requirement for disclosure to defendants in civil cases, while able to keep secret nearly everything discovered, equivalent to the rules regarding most grand juries. I should have a better understanding of this within a few days.
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 09:27 PM
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4. I'd be interested to know the violations, statutes or obligations,
with which Cuomo has charged b o a.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 09:46 PM
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6. The Martin Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Act

That's why there will be every effort to trash Cuomo, question his motives, force a dismissal, etc.

If he gets rolling with a trial and conviction or serious settlement where BofA openly admits
guilt in open court and pays a huge fine, the rest of the bailout crew will be apoplectic.

Cuomo has a great case, linked in the first article in my other reply here. The filing is a work
of art.

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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 10:09 PM
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8. Thanks. This appears to explain the Act.
Is the Complaint reasonably available?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 12:01 AM
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13. Welcome
Here's the complaint http://www.ag.ny.gov/media_center/2010/feb/BoA_Complaint.pdf

And here are two videos -

Rep. Kucinich questioning the indicted former BofA CEO Lewis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hro6tyGr5N0&NR=1

Rep. Cummings questioning current BofA CEO on the BofA-Merrill merger.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qowAmMkWIWc

They're short and sweet. You can tell a lot about the credibility of the witnesses in the larger testimony by the demeanor of Kucinich and Cummings toward the witnesses.
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unc70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 02:21 AM
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19. I strongly disagree with your assessment, think case more artifice than art
Before reading the complaint I had suspected that this was most likely a show trial with little risk for those with BofA and none to anyone in NY. I now think there might be more involved with less chance of this being settled prior to trial and without involving various other parties not listed in the Complaint.

Cuomo might be able to win a civil case against an easy target without fully proving his case.

Otherwise in order to prove his case, he must prove that those at BofA had known that the ML loss numbers were actual QTD, not forecast full quarter. but individually and collectively committed fraud by deliberately misrepresenting the meaning of those numbers to others including shareholders. One needs high-quality evidence to support such a claim, given the much simpler, more complete, and less sinister explanation that those at BofA were not aware that the numbers in the ML report were mis-labeled.

Maybe Cuomo has notes by Price or someone that leave no doubt that Price was fully aware of their actual meaning, and that this meaning was conveyed to all others who used these numbers when making decisions.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 10:16 PM
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25. Sorry but you're wrong
Edited on Thu Feb-11-10 10:16 PM by autorank
Cuomo has evidence to support that there was no confusion with BofA folks about the nature of the 4Q losses. He constructs a time line and shows how Price withheld information from the lawyers on the losses, enough to keep them thinking that the losses for 4Q through the Dec 5 vote and Dec 9 shareholders meeting, were below the threshhold the lawyers established for full disclosure. Remember, right after

You keep mentioning confusion on the time period for disclosed 4Q losses. The relevant dates are Dec 5, shareholders vote, and Dec 9, the 2nd board meeting in Dec. First of all, the only losses that they could report were actual losses. There's no confusion on that point. Second, the BofA team knew that the losses were alarming. From page 41:
145. By 8:05 p.m., the official results for November were complete, with the exception of tax-adjustment revisions. The final pretax number comprised October’s pretax loss of $7.536 billion and November’s pretax loss of $5.807 billion. pb]Together (Oct & Nov) with December’s loss to date of $629 million as reported in the December 4 report described above (see ¶¶ 131-134), losses had reached $13.972 billion. With the goodwill loss of $2.3 billion, Merrill’s known pretax losses to date stood at $16.272 billion (approximately $10.4 billion after tax), not including results for the day of December 5 itself.
Time stamped, 8:05 p.., dated known numbers. This is what Cuomo can prove.

A civil case is just fine. It allows for the recovery of damages and penalties that are in the interest of the public. Demeaning a civil trial on a civil issue makes no sense. It's like saying an anti-trust suit isn't serious because it's in civil rather than criminal court.

If this is settled, we'll see how that comes out. If it goes to trial, BofA better get out their check book and, more importantly, expect a huge negative impact on their business.



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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 09:42 PM
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5. You're not far from Charlotte are you? Did you read the same complaint that I read?
(Charlotte being the HQ for the crooked BofA, indicted for fraud!)

I've read the complaint filed and it is devastating. They don't put the photos, xeroxes, etc. in the main complaint but they do have evidence for each and every factual assertion or it's their ass.

Also, the SEC made findings similar to those Cuomo has in the indictment. BofA has agreed to a settlement with the SEC, thus accepted the facts that you're questioning in Cuomo's complaint.
Think about it, you're just plain wrong.

Check this out.

See:Cuomo Takes on The Money Party-Bank of America Looks Like First of Many and BofA Scandal Coverage - Getting it wrong on the Street
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unc70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 10:27 PM
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9. Not only read the complaint, but able to understand and disect it
It was your inflammatory post/journal posting that made me decide to read the full complaint and understand the claims before I posted anything. I have 30+ years involvement in financial markets, compliance, contracts and litigation of all sorts, plus an eye for what is wrong with documents, resumes, spreadsheets, and most anything else.

As I looked at this filing, it was immediately obvious that the press release versions was not supported by the Complaint, and that the Complaint summary was not supported by later sections. It went from:

"knew" to

"knew or should have known" to

"knew or reckless or negligent in not knowing"

Cuomo can not prove the allegations because he has a problem proving that those with BofA actually knew the real size of the ML loses.

That is why the sections sited in the OP are so crucial.

The reports that ML provided BofA contained "anachronistic" labels indicating full-quarter projections of ML losses, while the data was actual loses quarter-to-date. So what BofA saw labeled as project quarterly losses for the entire quarter were actual loses already recorded with no allowance for the rest of the quarter.

Since Cuomo, et al are obviously aware of this issue from statements elsewhere in the complaint, and since the Complaint contains repeated examples of the NY AG lacking proof of their own claims, then this looks like a bogus filing with the hope of political gain and maybe being able to convince a jury to believe a preponderance of evidence regarding a convenient villain, BofA.

BTW I do not know to whom and how much ML disclosed about this anomaly in their reports, nor whether there might be other actions by the parties deserving of scrutiny.

Not sure if there are any good guys in all of this, but my opinion of Cuomo has gone down a lot.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 11:00 PM
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10. Thank You, unc70,
that clarifies the issue tremendously -- QTD were labeled and interpreted as full quarter losses. Changed the entire picture and the misinformation could have been excused as a typo (although at that stratospheric level it was not bloody likely).

I have to say that the inclusion of the weasel words you point out is very interesting. If Cuomo could show that BoA definitively knew, why would he include those qualifiers? It sounds like backtracking.

I also don't understand the rage against BoA concerning this takeover. BoA was asked to rescue Merrill Lynch by Treasury, and they did -- by buying them out and absorbing their losses. Got a good price, and it prevented another Lehman-Brothers-type shock, which could easily have been a death blow to the economy. The excessive bonuses were paid by Merrill to their own executives during the acquisition -- the former BoA got nothing out of it.

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unc70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 01:35 AM
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17. Thanks, I needed a little moral support
I have trouble understanding the level of rage against BofA, although their credit card division probably earns them a lot of abuse. Nothing good on that group from me, either. I suspect that some people have much at stake personally that explains their attacks on BofA, but beyond that I have no clue.

In the Complaint on page 38, par 126 it clearly states that Mayopoulos through his testimony demonstrated he lack two pieces of critical information, one being that what he though was a forecast for the entire quarter was in fact quarter to date.

This precludes any claims by the AG that they were unaware of and had not considered this p0ssiblity when considering actions by those at BofA.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 12:19 PM
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20. I've Had Both Very Good and Very Bad Experiences with BoA
Come to think of it, the bad ones were with the credit card part.

So I guess it's down to a question of who's telling the truth, BoA or Merrill Lynch? Was there any indication whether the numbers were falsely labeled, or correctly labeled but supposedly misunderstood?

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unc70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 04:23 PM
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21. ML loss data reports to BofA. had misleading ("anachronistic") labels
The excerpt below from the Complaint describes the ML reports to BofA. I have not seen any of these reports, but the complaint (quoted below) in (64.) states the reports uses out-of-date ("anachronistic") labels. Many of the actions and decisions by those at BofA make a lot more sense if those involved had thought they were dealing with full-quarter projections.

From just the Complaint, I can't tell if someone expecting to see a full-quarter forecast would immediately see that it was only to month-end, not quarter-end. I suspect not.

I believe I know how all this happened, using information in the Complaint, hidden in plain sight. BofA hired J.C. Flowers, Inc. to help with their due diligence of ML, in part because Flowers had prior experience wrt ML from Q4 2007 and was already familiar with the ML systems, etc. (Footnote p 13). That experience was before ML changed the content of the reports, while retaining the same labels (e.g. Forecast, Projection). Since the DD for BofA was in September, the end-of-month vs end-of-quarter distinction would be nearly impossible to detect.

Because of the various end-of-month adjustments, etc., the surprisingly large Oct loss by ML would trigger a closer look at the reports in Nov, but it would still not be obvious that the reports were not full quarter, though there were certainly clues. The November report delivered by ML to BofA after the vote plus the Dec dailies suddenly made it clear what was going on and that the losses at ML were much greater than BofA had thought when the vote was taken.

This is just speculation on my part, but it would explain certain items being part of the Complaint and why those at BofA made certain decisions. No idea if and to whom ML might have explained their changes to the content of the reports or how prominent its conveyance.



http://www.ag.ny.gov/media_center/2010/feb/BoA_Complaint.pdf


63. The fourth quarter 2008 reports of Merrill’s financial condition on which Lewis, Price and the Bank relied almost entirely reflected real losses to date; they were not forecasts or predictions. By the time the merger was announced in mid-September, Merrill had a process in place whereby it tracked actual losses on a daily basis. Due to Merrill’s losses at the start of the financial crisis in late 2007, Merrill stopped forecasting and simply tracked its losses.

64. Merrill’s Head of Corporate Planning, Nancy Meloth, who oversaw the process, explained that before the financial crisis her group had put “greater focus on all kinds of things like three-year plans and forward projections,” but that after the crisis struck, “the focus became much more on day-to-day results and how we were doing.” Thus while the reports contained anachronistic labels like “forecast” and “projection,” they in fact tracked actual losses.

65. The reports documenting Merrill’s financial condition during the fourth quarter stated these day-to-day losses in columns titled “actual,” which reflected month-end numbers that only rarely changed (and even then in immaterial ways) after they were booked.

66. The reports also contained a column for estimates known as BTG (Balance To Go), a reference to days remaining in any given period. But as Meloth testified,

BTG "could possibly be a budget or an expectation that had been there for how the core businesses should perform in an environment that we weren’t in anymore. And for lack of something better than that, we just left it there, but certainly no one would have relied on this for any sort of decision-making purpose, in my opinion."

67. In addition to day-to-day losses, the reports reflected changes in the valuations of securities and trading positions held by Merrill, known as “marks.” Typically, marks were not included in the day-to-day losses reflected in the “actual” column until the end of each month. During the fourth quarter of 2008, Corporate Planning finalized marks at the end of each month, adding them to the monthly results to reach the total actual monthly figure. Setting the marks involved financial analysis and conversations between Corporate Planning and business heads, sometimes even rising to senior executive levels. For the past 16 months, Merrill had averaged a loss of least $3.2 billion in marks each month.

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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 08:39 PM
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23. So This is Getting to the Heart of It --
64. Merrill’s Head of Corporate Planning, Nancy Meloth, who oversaw the process, explained that before the financial crisis her group had put “greater focus on all kinds of things like three-year plans and forward projections,” but that after the crisis struck, “the focus became much more on day-to-day results and how we were doing.” Thus while the reports contained anachronistic labels like “forecast” and “projection,” they in fact tracked actual losses.

So the Merrill reports actually did contain period-to-date actuals that were labeled projections. And Merrill had changed their corporate reporting earlier so that these misleading phrases were understood internally.

Now the only question is whether the misunderstanding was intentional or accidental. I bet you anything it was done on purpose once some Merrill executive realized the whole company had plausible deniability for passing along bad information. ("Oh, those are our internal reports, which are what they asked for.")

Thank you for the selection -- this is fascinating.
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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 11:00 PM
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11. dupe
Edited on Wed Feb-10-10 11:01 PM by On the Road
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 11:37 PM
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12. You are aware the current BofA CEO is lined up against the defendants?
That's called being flipped. Surely, in reading the complaint, you noticed the name of Brian Moynihan, current president and CEO of BofA, on many occasions where fraud was committed. He cooperated with Cuomo's office and ended up not being charged. His reading of the complaint and evaluation of the overall case might influence you. He "cooperated" with Cuomo's office. Figure out what that means. In addition, there are 35 "Relevant Parties," many bank employees, some who were thick as thieves in the transactions relating to Merrill Lynch. They can also be called as witnesses since they "cooperated" just like Moynihan.

Cuomo can't make any statement in the complaint with out evidence sufficient to support those statements. You're analysis (which didn't address any of the evidence presented) is based on the notion that this is an exhaustive listing of evidence, which it isn't. There's much more including testimony in some form by the current BofA president/CEO against the defendants

You indicate that these were important terms in your evaluation of Cuomos's case: "knew" to - "knew or should have known" to - "knew or reckless or negligent in not knowing." These are terms used in complaints. "knew" doesn't imply anything. "knew or should have known" - this implies either direct awareness or the obligation to have had direct awareness, implying negligence. Direct knowledge or negligence are sufficient to carry the case. That's how they do it. It can't be taken as an indication of weakness. If the complaint were not crafted this way the AG would be negligent for not following the proper format in this type of lawsuit.

While you focus on these phrases, you failed to mention the actual evidence in the complaint itself. Others can review that at: http://www.ag.ny.gov/media_center/2010/feb/BoA_Complaint.pdf

My opinion of Cuomo has soared. This is the first opportunity to put the perpetrators of the financial collapse on trial. BofA was right in the middle of it.

BofA knew about Merrill Lynch losses of $16 bil prior to the shareholder vote on Dec 5th and the board of directors meeting on Dec 9th. BofA talked about a $9 bil losses knowing that it was much larger. They committed fraud.


Here are two commentaries on the case:
Cuomo Takes on The Money Party-Bank of America Looks Like First of Many and BofA Scandal Coverage - Getting it wrong on the Street
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unc70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 12:28 AM
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14. Most everyone at BofA cooperated. fully with the various investigations
I believe that BofA waived attorney-client privs as part of its cooperation.

Even if I am right and many or all at BofA had continued to believe that the number reports by ML were estimated losses for the entire quarter (as labeled) when these were really actual losses quarter-to-date, this would still be embarrassing for BofA management and deserving of further investigation regarding ML disclosures.

Cuomo seems to have overstated his case, implying actions of nearly criminal nature, far beyond your typical civil litigant aggressively asserting claims totally lacking in support.

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 12:51 AM
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15. We'll see how it comes out.
If there's a trial, BofA will come off looking just terrible, regardless of what happens in the case, simply because they'll have executives testifying against the bank, one former and one current executive. If Moynihan has to testify that will be really devastating. How does this look to the public
and investors with bank executives, including the CEO, giving evidence, either by testimony or by cooperation with the Attorney General on a case that charges the corporate entity of the bank with fraud? That is, I believe the 800 pound gorilla in the living room that nobody has acknowledged. Who wants to bank with fraudsters, if there's a settlement and admission of fraud or a conviction.

Cuomo is obligated to present a case that would stand on it's own if read by a reasonable person. If he has not done that, then the case will be dismissed by the Judge. There must be huge pressure to settle this, even on Cuomo, I suspect. So we'll see what happens. But the SEC settlement was deemed sufficiently inadequate for a judge in the same court to demand a much tougher settlement.

So, like I see, we'll see.
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unc70 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 01:02 AM
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16. Do you have links to actual ML reports of losses that were delivered to BofA?
I have not seen a link to these actual reports anywhere. They would let us evaluate how likely anyone would be mislead by them into assuming the the reported QTD losses were projections of full quarter losses, as the report's labels and titles indicated.

In many cases, those within BofA and those they contacted did not have or use the actual ML reports. Instead, they relied on the numbers as presented to them by others over the telephone or in email.

BTW BofA and previously NCNB and NationsBank had generally operated as traditional retail banks rather than as investment banks like ML or Goldman Sachs. BofA compensated its senior employees well, but generally avoided the high-risk, high-reward environments common among large NY investment banking enterprises. Following the acquisition of San Francisco based BofA by NationsBank, then assuming the name of BofA, Hugh McColl discovered that BofA-SF had lost an enormous amount because it had provided loans to finance "day trading" in eastern European stocks and futures. McColl sacked everyone involved and made it very clear that such risks were not appropriate for the bank.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-10-10 10:07 PM
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7. Due to BofA being a publicly traded co. on the stock exchange
Cuomo has jurisdiction over a matter concerning fraud committed against the BofA shareholders.

Every company trading on the NYSE, or the NASDAQ are subject to the laws of NY.
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 01:59 AM
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18. He isn't after Bank of America
He is after Ben Bernake and Henry Paulson.

Everyone knows that Lewis told both the Federal Reserve and Henry Paulson everything that was going on.

His entire goal is to get Paulson listed as a witness so he has discovery of US Treasury emails in the transaction to prove Lewis's assertions.

Than you will see Henry Paulson sweat because depending on what he's said to Congress over the past year, he stands a good chance at getting hit with lying to congress charges.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 10:31 PM
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26. That's a good outcome but BofA will do for now
Edited on Thu Feb-11-10 10:32 PM by autorank
Paulson is a big target since he was the ringmaster (but who was behind him?). Cuomo has used
congressional hearings and testimony well in the filing. If this doesn't settle, it will become a
spectacle of finger pointing. We don't know if Bernanke and/or Paulson were deposed or will testify
but I'd vote yes on both.

Maybe Lewis will trade up. Moynihan did.

Pages 45, 46, 69

BofA General Counsel commenting on being fired in the middle of a huge deal, from Congressional hearing:

Mayopoulos recalled in his congressional testimony,

I was stunned. I had never been fired from any job, and I had never heard of the
general counsel of a major company being summarily dismissed for no apparent
reason and with no explanation.
<…>
Finally, I could not understand why I was dismissed so abruptly. I was surprised
that I was given no opportunity to say goodbye to my colleagues and staff, and
why there was no orderly transition of my work to Mr. Moynihan. No one,
including Mr. Moynihan, ever contacted me to discuss what I had been working

46
on. Nearly a year later, I still do not know why I was terminated, who was
involved in the decision to do so, or what their reasons or motivations were. ((45, 46)

-------------
Lewis - defendant, former BofA president, CEO - congressional testimony in the complaint:

Question: <…> what was the motivating force behind your decision to put forward this MAC?

Lewis (defendant; BofA CEO/pres): <... W>e grew more and more convinced that – that there – that
there was a distinct possibility that we had a MAC as a result of the accelerated losses (proof to
the contrary).

Question: You didn’t disclose that to your shareholders, though.

Lewis: But the acceleration really took place about a week after(proof to the contrary). That’s when
you saw massive acceleration, not necessarily those days, but as a result of the
forecast increasing. And so, there was – this was not some bluff. We thought we had a real
possibility of a MAC (proof to the contrary). (p. 46)
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