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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 09:29 AM
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70%-Sarah's very, very bad number
Fresh off her widely covered book tour and overblown media coverage of her keynote speech at the teabagger convetion, Sarah Palin is riding high. Yes, she's a big hit with a bloc of hard-core right-wingers, but, in the real world, most Americans don't buy it. In the latest Washington Post/ABC News poll, she has astoundingly bad numbers. Over 70% of Americans don't think she's qualified to be President:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/10/AR2010021004708.html?hpid=topnews
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 09:33 AM
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1. I don't even think she's qualified to be on Hollywood Squares
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 09:34 AM
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2. Yeah, but she could give "Family Feud" a whole new look!
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 10:30 AM
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26. Certainly not the center square.
:rofl:
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 09:34 AM
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3. That means 30% are still grossly misinformed through Fux Noise machine
E.O.M., baby
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 09:37 AM
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5. The most trusted source for misinformation.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 10:02 AM
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17. That 30% figure....
is a constant in US politics.

Same number supported Dumbya no matter what. Same number really hates Obama. Same number.....

Seems to me that 30% shouldn't dominate the fucking media and run the fucking country.
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Raine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 07:41 PM
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44. Yup the "dirty 30" practically impossible for a wing nut
to get lower than that even if they ate a baby on live TV.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 07:55 PM
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48. "30% shouldn't dominate the fucking media and run the fucking country"
... and yet... they ARE the fucking media and the mantra is recited... "USA!"



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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 09:34 AM
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4. Sarah's got to get out and around more and she'll get that poll
number up to 90% easy. Keep talking Sarah!
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 09:39 AM
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6. 30% is ridiculously high
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gkhouston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 10:15 AM
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25. Apparently, severe head injuries are more common than we think. n/t
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 10:31 AM
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27. No, it's about right
The lowest Bush ever got in approval ratings is about 27% so we can say that 27% of the country is conservatively religiously insane, which explains their W./Palin support. The remaining 3% are grandmothers who think that if only their still-unmarried-because-they're-gay grandsons in their 40s could just meet someone as cute as that Sarah gal, they would turn straight and get married.

TlalocW
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 07:53 PM
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47. About the same number who feel Chimpy should be on Mt. Rushmore
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 09:40 AM
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7. Bad enought to be so unqualified in the view of so many...
But, damned, that squawking she does when she is trying to speak publicly... Horrid screeching, squawking, nails on the chalkboard disturbance. Have her fans all become deaf?
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 09:52 AM
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12. ... they're too busy looking at her bod to hear her whining ...
:puke:
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 10:06 AM
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19. rude pundit said it best...
her base: Men who fantasize about sleeping with her, and women with low-self esteem who want to be her..
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 09:40 AM
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8. The numbers fit perfectly. That hard core voting base that would be
attracted to her is only about 27% and can go to 37% when patriotism in worked into the poll. The number reveals itself to us over and over in polls. This is why they had to steal a state in 2000 and 2004.
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Bravo Zulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 09:51 AM
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11. "can go to 37% when patriotism in worked into the poll. "
Make that fake patriotism!
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 03:01 PM
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37. You're right. The give in the numbers worked well whenever 9-11 was worked
into the rhetoric in the past. Now the Republicans have added lots of stuff to their 'vault' of causes and we have been added to their long list of enemies. We are the traitors.

I just looked at the vieo of the 'arsenal man' from Massachusetts - said it's OK to shoot traitors in the head.

When the Bond & Hoeskstra Boehner teams start the rhetoric at their level and it is picked up by the wild people like Bachmann and Palin and all the people that Dick Armey pumps into a frenzy, we know that we are their enemy. Lies. Absurd lies. Brain washed, then replaced with fear and hate for everyone.

They are bound together by the bible (faked or not), end-of-times, guns, abortion, ignorance, logic deficiency and a complete vacumn about our history.
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 09:42 AM
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9. Based on the fear here at DU - at least 10% of the 30% who think she is qualified are among us.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 09:48 AM
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10. I don't think she's qualified to be President
But I do think she'll get the Rethug nomination. Her only real opposition is Mitt Romney, and when she wants to rally fundies against Mormons, she'll win that battle in every state where the two of them meet head to head. All the sane people are on our side.
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Bravo Zulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 10:08 AM
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20. "I don't think she's qualified to be President"
bu$h wasn't qualified either!
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 10:56 AM
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35. The GOP that wants to win, that doesn't like Palin,
will do what it takes to destroy her. If you think they are going to let that woman spoil their chances you really don't understand the misogynist, greedy, power hungry bastards at all.
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 11:12 AM
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36. This is what I'm thinking as well. The "rational" part of the GOP (yes I realize
that's an oxymoron) but most of the GOP realize what a trainwreck she is and wouldn't give her the nomination in a million years. They would NEVER live it down if the had her as the nominee.

No one wants an old white man to be in office more than the Repubes. They aren't just going to give this to her on a platter, so even if she THINKS she's going to run (which I don't think she is, she's just stringing everyone along for the publicity) the Repubes running against her will literally destroy her. They will be FAR more damaging than even us Dems will be. Trust me, Guiliani or Huckabee or Romney....these guys know how to play dirty.
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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 06:06 PM
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40. You're dreaming
Yes, the Repigs love white men, but nobody's stupid enough to tick off the base of adoring baggers who love Caribou Barbie. If Huckabee tries, he'll find out just how fast the reich wing will stomp someone who beats up on a "lady". Double that with Giuliani and Romney, they think the former is a liberal, and they know the latter is a Mormon.

It was like with Hillary, everybody was afraid to lay a glove on her in 2008, and she kept going far past her expiration date.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 11:38 AM
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55. It is you that is dreaming.
The grassroots is not the majority, they are a small, annoying and vocal minority.

The heart of the party, the ones that are the main voting block, cannot stand Palin.

The more the GOP/teabaggers try to cram her down their throats the more they hate her.

You really need to step away from DU, stop focusing on FOX coverage and check out the various political message boards on the internet. You will find that your perception is way off base.

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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 05:59 PM
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39. If so, then who's their champion?
Rudy? Washed up. Hucksterbee? Toast because of that pardon that led to the death of four police officers in Tacoma, WA. McCain? Got the word 'loser' written all over him.

The only one left from 2008 is Romney, and the fundies who make up the heart and soul of the GOP are NEVER going to let a Mormon be their standard bearer. They're aware of LDS missionaries working to grab people away from their flocks, and they'll be damned if they're going to give those missionaries one more talking point about who's a famous Mormon.

While there are some up-and-coming Rethugs who would be acceptable to the vast majority of GOPers, like DeMint and Cantor, right now, they're stuck kow-towing to Queen Sarah, they cannot afford to piss off the baggers. The only way they have a chance is if she says or does something so incredibly stupid that even she realizes that she's blown it, and takes herself out of contention.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 07:37 PM
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43. Their champion won't be a woman
And it definitely won't be a woman who cannot be controlled or managed.

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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 07:49 PM
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45. Yeah, but she's managing all of them
You really can't name anyone, can you? That's because there is no one, the only "winner" on the elephant side of the 2008 election is Caribou Barbie.

They're stuck with her. Let's face it, in modern Presidential politics, the race for the front-runner status starts the day after the mid-term elections. Who on the Rethuglican side has the momentum to catch up to or surpass Palin in the next none months?
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 08:08 PM
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50. Brown has a better shot at it than she has.
She isn't managing them, she is pissing them off as much as she annoys us.

You really should step away from DU everyone now and then. You will see that most folks aren't as into things as you are. And a good many on the right who do care about politics, can't stand her.

Could the Tea Party movement be losing ground?

Days after Sarah Palin headlined the nation's first Tea Party convention, a Rasmussen Reports poll released today shows that a generic "Tea Party candidate" would come in third in a theoretical three-way congressional contest.

The poll found that 36% of voters would support a Democratic candidate on a generic ballot, 25% would back the Republican and 17% would go for the Tea Party pick. Twenty-three percent of respondents are undecided.

In early December, the same poll showed the Tea Party in second place and the GOP in third. Unchanged between the polls, according to Rasmussen, is that 41% of voters have a favorable view of the conservative movement.

The poll of 1,000 likely voters was taken Feb. 7-8, just after the national Tea Party convention in Nashville. The survey has a margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/onpolitics/post/2010/02/poll-tea-party-candidates-come-in-last/1


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customerserviceguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 07:27 AM
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53. The only reason the reich wing loves Brown
is that he not only killed the supermajority, but he won in blue Massachusetts. No matter what Drudge might have put on his website, Scott Brown is way too liberal for the national GOP to ever be considered as presidential material. The same would be true with Rudy Ghouliani, if he were to run and capture Gillebrand's Senate seat, they'd be deliriously happy, but they're still never going to seriously entertain having him as a presidential candidate, just like they rejected him in 2008.

Interesting non-sequitor there, about whether a Tea Party as a third party has viability. We should only hope that they split off from the Rethuglicans, but so far, they've been smart enough to know that the only way they will influence national politics is as a part of the GOP. They will try to use their money and numbers to get "friendly" candidates nominated as Republicans, so as to pick up from the turn against Democratic candidates that they perceive to be happening in the fall.

The last third party to ever win any electoral votes was George Wallace's American Independent Party back in 1968, and he split the Democratic vote at the time. It's a lesson from history that nobody's forgotten in over forty years.

Mark my words, Sarah Palin will be the 2012 GOP nominee. Nobody else on their side can dig up the grassroots effort that took Barack Obama from fresh newcomer to nominee that we saw in the last few years.
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tallahasseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 09:57 AM
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14. There is a degree of fear...
that a lot of DUers feel, but I think it extends more from the fact that the excuses coming from the right about all the stupid things she does makes us think that they are REALLY up to something. i.e. GW II.

Who knows? :shrug:
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 09:53 AM
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13. In some ways Palin reminds me of the early Adolf Hitler. Both had no real
political base, built themselves up solely on their ability to attract and manipulate people through speaking in public, despite not having much of a message, any respect for the truth or any great intelligence. Both seem to have backers with lots of money, and both speak to crowds who are angry and afraid, alternately provoking and comforting them.

Just a thought.

mark
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bullwinkle428 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 10:04 AM
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18. Hitler actually wrote his own book prior to achieving political prominence!
Without a ghost-writer, even also too!
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RollWithIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 10:10 AM
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22. I would have to disagree that Hitler wasn't intelligent...
In fact, he was very intelligent. Evil intentions does not mean stupidity.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 10:48 AM
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33. I didn't mean to say that he was stupid, but he was hailed as a great thinker
and he was nothing close to that. There are a lot of parallels, maybe not exact-similarities might be a better word.

Again, just my thought of the early morning...


mark
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many a good man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 09:58 AM
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15. I'm surprised the number isn't 32%
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 10:01 AM
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16. Who are the 6% Democrats who think she is qualified?
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BolivarianHero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 10:08 AM
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21. I dunno...
Probably elderly White southerners who beat and sexually assault their African-American housekeepers and still haven't caught up with the Southern Strategy yet.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 10:46 AM
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30. Nelson, Landreau etal....?
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sharesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 10:11 AM
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23. She doesn't WANT to be President. She wants to sit on the sidelines, happy and wealthy.
And PICK the President.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 07:50 PM
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46. Exactly...that will satisfy both her ego and her laziness; Queen Grifter will be the king-maker.
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PruneJuiceMedia Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 10:13 AM
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24. Makes sense...
This makes some sense. The coverage of her Tea Party speech was very overblown, with the FOX News website directly mentioning her challenge to President Obama in 2012. She cannot be serious. I'm glad that America hasn't (yet) had the wool pulled over its eyes. She is so NOT qualified to do much of anything in government.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 10:33 AM
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28. But cable news keeps covering that bag of shit. A runaway goat has more fucking sense on both counts
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 10:46 AM
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29. I think she wants the title, not the work.
Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

There's more to this job than meets the eye, and she'll be dealing with shit she can't possibly comprehend.
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 10:50 AM
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34. She wants the attention and figures somebody else will do all the work.
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theothersnippywshrub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 08:00 PM
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49. Shadow Dude wants the work. Sarah is his puppet.
In the meantime he has millions of marks to work for millions of dollars.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 10:47 AM
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31. She's not qualified to assist in kindergarten class. n/t
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 10:48 AM
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32. That is the most reassuring news I've seen about Americans in a long time.
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Blue Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 03:34 PM
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38. Suck on that
David Fucking Broder, Chuck Fuckstick Todd, and Joe Fucking Scumbarrow.

Suck on it.
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NICO9000 Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 06:10 PM
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41. I still think she'll make some half-hearted 3rd party run
For a little while at least. She'll then drop out and try to be the kingmaker for the Rethug nom.
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Kablooie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 07:07 PM
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42. There's that crazy 30% again. The Bush lovers were always around 30%
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 10:47 PM
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51. k*r
This is about what it was by the end of the campaign.

She's a known entity. The more she's known, the less people like her.

Pretty cool considering the hype she gets from Fox.
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-11-10 11:06 PM
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52. Hows that flaky poley thing going?
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 08:21 AM
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54. I am honestly surprised that that number is as high as 70%.
Given the MSM's 24/7 stumping for her--even allowing for the few recent disses--I would have assumed that most Americans were taking her seriously.

This is rather heartening.
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ChoppinBroccoli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-12-10 11:42 AM
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56. Not Qualified To Be President?
She's not qualified to run the Slurpee machine at 7/11. Why would ANYONE want her running the country?
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