PETA lampoons Duggars with billboards in NW Arkansas.

the other way too....


"Duggars multiply faster than doggies...have them spayed and neutered"




it'll probably piss off a few "Let 'em have as many kids as they want to" people

:7

http://www.duggarfamily.com/

Which means they'll probably announce ratings boost #20 any time now.

Frankly my dear..you don't know what you're talking about!

Lefty Mom does!

From what I know, Josie is still in an incubator.

They wait 40 days to have sex after a male, 80 days after a female (Bible thing, apparently). They will still use NO birth control.

Unbelievable.

That wouldn't be against the Bible, would it?

Worked for Laura Bush.

up with so many of their campaigns in such hateful manner, so consistently is pathetic

another

screw peta

That's all that matters to PETA. Even negative publicity is publicity.

And even if it's negative - People still think about spaying or neutering their pet.

And thanks for the "stupid" insult. Glad you could elevate the conversation there.

because being responsible, of course i am going to with my pet. but now it actually makes me say fuck em.... it is piss poor manipulation, using the lowest vibration of who we are as a people, to do the right thing, the highest of who we are as a people. and i am just that more disgusted with this org....

so repulsed

Every campaign just enrages people but also gets them press time. I have never seen them offer a commonsense campaign. I doubt the motive is money - They just want publicity for their cause and will do anything to get it. They want people to be outraged and call attention to these ads, because then they get discussed.


Another infamous one:


The really sad thing is that PETA kills more animals than any other humane society. They put down the most pets because they don't believe people should own pets. That sickens me the most as someone who owns 2 rescue dogs.

anyone with this mentality. not at all. not a little. i knew nothing about peta and felt good. since du, i have seen what creeps they are. i know all these campaigns. every single one is ugly

They put down animals because they are a shelter of last resort that doesn't have the facilities currently to be an animal rescue group.

That said, I only half agree with you as to their motives. Their motives are not for "the cause," their motive IS money, as in preaching to the choir in order to garner donations and pay Ingrid's rent.

i am less offended by greed then by doing wrong to get right.

There are some truly good people interested in helping animals that work there and get sucked into PETA's institutional echo chamber created by the higher-ups. PETA's main problem is that they are no longer grass-roots in any way shape or form, so consequently, there's no exchange of ideas that might lead to a "maybe we shouldn't do this, guys" conversation. I don't like it when people use CCF propaganda ("peta kills animals" crap) to attack them (and vegans by proxy), but I completely respect the position you take on the issue.

with your brothers knowledge. i dont go into the stuff i dont know anything about. i hear stories like what you say, but so much is conspiracy i dont know. so won't repeat.

thanks

i appreciate this conversation.

Many good rescues and humane groups in the Tidewater (Hampton Roads) region were continually frustrated by PETA's refusal to work with them to save pets. I adopted two wonderful dogs from Animal Rescue of Tidewater - http://artanimals.org/.

As for motive, I will respectfully disagree. I see them as true believers in their cause, as deluded in it's righteousness as a suicide bomber is in his/her's.

to have an action in the lowest vibration should cause a like reaction, lowest vibration.

so if peta is doing it for good, they should not be able to do it thru lowest vibration

why doing it out of greed works

but doing it for animals doesnt.

isnt that funny. you guys making me do my own reflection here.

interesting

this was totally off topic, but enjoyed

i support spa and get dogs from pound too

But they are horrible when it comes to working with other rescue groups. I completely believe you in regards to them being difficult, and have a few stories myself that I won't share because they are unconfirmed word-of-mouth type things, and I'm not going to get involved in the internet rumor mill about PETA, 99% of which is total bullshit.

Comparing them to suicide bombers is a bit much, though. I'm a vegan and, while I'd never insult other activists by calling myself one, I do study animal rights theory and would like to think I have a decent understanding of it. I don't know, maybe Ingrid and Mary Beth Sweetland truly are true believers as opposed to the con artists I think they've s become, but it's inarguable that the only reason PETA continues to function is because of donations. And the easiest way to get donations is to make everything about PETA, as opposed to spay & neuter, vegetarianism, etc.

Notice how little of this thread is about spaying and neutering, and how much of it is about PETA? That's my point.

I was comparing them directly to suicide bombers, just implying that their "Zeal" was comparable. I have met a few who seemed to be true believers to the end.

Most people you meet are rationale, and willing to discuss ideas even if they disagree. Not these few. I was a nasty fanged barbarian who killed animals for pleasure (Chicken sandwich). Don't sweat it though - I don't consider them representative of Vegan's or Vegetarians whatsoever.

and frankly they wouldn't get me to lift a finger to help them with their smug self-righteous attitude. They remind me of things like Church, and Government. They use fear, guilt, and cheap tactics to try to force their opinion on others. Sorry, doesn't work for me.

rabbits instead of doggies.

:silly:

It's actually really important for a rabbit's health to make sure they're altered.

Just wanna do it, yanno, right...

:eyes:

I hope you're kidding. Sincerely.
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I'm sorry, but regardless of the sense of the message, PETA has jumped the shark for me. Nothing they've come up with over the past I don't know how many years has not been able to restrain the urge to take a swat at those bad ol' humans. I can't defend any group whose leader has taken to making no effort to disguise her misanthropy.

Flame-retardant underwear... check...

i dont even have to like duggars... and still

why do we as a group condone mean, cause we dont like duggar

nearly enough people.

to emulate them?

you are setting up a mighty precedent with that.

Treating your wife like a breeding machine is despicable. Spitting in the face of overpopulation is despicable. Raising your children in a reality-TV sideshow is despicable.

She's perfectly free to keep pumping out kids until her uterus is hanging around her ankles, that doesn't mean I can't say that I think they are disgusting individuals.

there are still people that feel being mean to accomplish ones goal isnt ok. even for a good cause. even if the people you are being mean to are in your words "dispectable".

then there are some that will cheer them on because they dont like duggars, and be all up in arms when some one does it to their group, or when there is a bully thread.

that isnt being consistent

even if we do so for different reasons. One of the unfortunate things is that this will become a conversation about PETA, as opposed to a conversation about spaying and neutering.

Still, I admit that I laughed when I first read it. In the grand scheme of things, this ad won't have any effect whatsoever, whether positive or negative, and we'll all forget about until the next ridiculous PETA stunt makes the news.

address our issue

not being fond of the family and what they represent, it isnt easy standing up for them

After all, for the Duggar defenders, you're never supposed to criticize anyone about anything, ever.

style of family growth, but I also don't care, so not agreeing with them is easy. PETA has goals that I can agree with, and that I care about, but thier history is so full of riduculous attention grabbing stunts, I believe they are largely ignored and/or made fun of by the very people they are so desperate to attract.

The Duggars, The Goslings, Octa-Mom etc are all irrelevant in the eyes of anybody except gossip columnists and self appointed family do gooders.

PETA has a mission that is worth supporting, but they are just to lame, and silly to be taken seriously. Although I am male,........ so I do enjoy the sexual objectification of nekked women to make a point about wearing "fur".
Pam Anderson and her big fake tits don't do anything except provide joke material about PETA. It's sad really, because PETA does have a point, they just won't ever take off the red nose and make up to be taken as adults.

ALL it accomplished was getting a bunch of good ole boys saying sexist bullshit, crude and vulgar while laughing at the joke of peta. in turn

two girls making fools out of themselves all in the name of women.

thanks peta

Would use credible ads with credible methods, and use spokes-men/women who are not themselves polarizing, popularity junkies, they might just draw a portion of the population they want. Instead, I think there are a LARGE number of people like me who see PETA as good for a laugh, a good natured jab at the next "shock ad", and a certain amount of sympathy, because it would suck to be so dedicated to a cause and be rarely taken seriously.

Pamela Anderson might be the sweetest most genuine person in the world, but her "LOOK AT ME LOOK AT ME" desperation lifestyle does not add credibility nor the warm and fuzzies for PETA, my opnion not fact. PETA acts like a bunch of clowns, and begs for childish attention, then is surprised when only clowns and children want to be involved.

However, if PETA is hell bent on keeping participation by people like ME at arm's distance, I would like to suggest that there can never enough redhead women stripping for furless-ness awareness.

...but PETA is hardly the group to do it.

Encourage everyone to emulate...? Wow, such contempt for people's ability to make their own decisions, like there are rational people saying, "Gee, the Duggars serve as a positive example to the rest of us."

:D

I need to go lay down for a while.

Yes, those are the exact kinds of people that should be multiplying like rabbits... :sarcasm:

They are part of the "Quiver Full" movement that treats a woman's uterus like a clown car. They publicly promote that movement, their book is sold on the Quiver Full website. They have willingly thrust their anti-woman, Christo-fascist dogma into the public sphere and thus, like many before them they are fair game.

http://www.quiverfull.com/

That takes fundamentalism to a whole new fucked up level.

Of course they think people are just another type of animal and think it is so great to spay and neuter pets because they don't think pets should be allowed to exist at all.

What is laughable is they don't want people using animals for "ethical" reasons, which gives the lie people are just another species of animal. No other animal has a system of ethics; they rely on instinct instead.

I knew you'd do a hit-and-run on this thread.

People are animals. Scientifically speaking, what else could we be, Fungi?

and that Terri Schiavo was murdered, so take what she says with a grain of salt.

Terri Schiavo was murdered?


omfg ....... that explains a LOT!


(about the poster...)

I just can't keep my mouth shut when the stupid comes to town.

:hi:

;-)

:evilgrin:

We happen to be the dominant species at the time, but we've only been around as modern humans for a drop in the bucket of the Earth's time -- we've got nothin' on dinosaurs, which ruled for tens of millions of years. How can you say people are not animals? Of course we are animals.

the Duggar family. I would expect a lot of people who self identify as an Evangelical christian to be offended. Does PETA want to offend Evangelicals or to get people to spay their animals?

...

:shrug:

required to grant permission for the billboard. Personally, I don't see how it criticizes either the family or Evangelicals.

Kind of interesting choices, three distinctly different communities bordering on one another.

Tontitown (pronounced locally as "Tawney-town")-- nondescript community with "no 'there,' there" when it's not grape festival time. I imagine they'd put that billboard up along US 412. Good ol' boyz traversing that highway might get a kick out of it. Evangelicals will have a fit, and complain on the local talk radio.

Springdale-- Chicken City, USA. Home to Tyson's. Lots of evangelicals there, also lots of working class folks.

Fayetteville-- College town, seat of Washington County. Lots of college kids and professors will get a kick out of it, I imagine.

I am not to like the PETA but the Duggars are worse, I am not to like the Duggars... no PETA is worse, worst, Duggars, PETA... Beep... beep... beep... beep... does not compute. Illogical, illogical...

a campaign of mean that peta does. a person really can not be fond of duggar and see the meanness of the ad, without any heads exploding.

(1) wWhy must a person be defined (5) as head exploding (2) because they make (5) a statement (2,3) it is a campaign of mean meanness that (1) peta PETA does. (1) a person really (5) can not be fond of duggar the Duggars (1,4) and (5) see the meanness of the ad, without any heads exploding.

(1) Please review and follow the rules for capitalization.

(2) This does not make sense, please rephrase.

(3) Once you revise this to make sense you'll either need to break your thoughts up into separate sentences or use punctuation to clarify the meaning of a compound sentence. You may want to stick to short, telegraphic sentences until you improve your basic language use.

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edit: Whoops, found more problems.

sometimes i do. sometimes i dont.

but there is an option for the reader. read/dont. i get plenty of people that understand what i am saying. interact. and discuss. and some dont. so i am ok with me. i will try harder though, (well maybe not cause i am not on this post to you) when i see your name. bha hahahha

but you sure did put a lot of time in all that stuff.

Sad little tactic, littlemom.

:D

I'll pass them out at the dog park.

Still, kinda funny idea from PETA.

(because I don't feel like running around the same old ground at the moment...)

:)

They're STILL going to proceed with the baby-makin' 80 days after the birth . . . EVEN after her Preeclampsia, EVEN after having Josie 25 weeks in. The poor girl is still in an incubator and very fragile. It's dominionist bullshit taken to the extreme at this point.

"God has a plan, we just don't understand it, blah de blah blah Jesus blah blah blah God blah blah Prayer blah blah blah..."

This mom may lose her life simply because "GAWDs Army" can just never be big enough! It's such unproven BABBLE.

Yeah yeah, "their choice" . . . it's a STUPID choice; one that could leave 19 kids (one who's still in an incubator) without a mother if they're not mindful.

....the less likely they are to alter their edgy PR methods. The more hysterical you get, the bigger favor you're doing the organization. If they were suffering any great membership drop or loss of money, they would have changed their approach......

And it works!

good one PETA

Seriously, why does PETA have to go out of its way to offend? They hurt their message far more than they help it, and that makes me mad.

Always good for a laugh.

I fully support this campaign to raise awareness.
Un-neutered "Yard Pets" are a HUGE problem in this area (Central West Arkansas)
The locals seem to accept this as just the way things are.
It is not uncommon the see some houses with 10-15 semi-wild, unvaccinated, flea & worm infested cats in the yard.
Yard Dogs are almost as bad.

Some stay with the house, others become roamers that show up at our door begging to be fed, and some just die of disease and starvation.
This IS a BIG problem here.

The problem is compounded by Town People who no longer want (or can't afford) to keep their pets, so they drive them out to "the country", take off their collars, and DUMP them, rationalizing that they will find a nice home on some farm.
Since there is NO WAY to know if these roamers have been vaccinated, it is DANGEROUS to handle them.
The "lucky" ones are captured and taken to a shelter, but the others are usually shot if they don't die from starvation first.


Our "pets" work for their keep.
(Mousers, garden rodent control, and guards)
They are neutered and vaccinated.
We do everything we can to keep them healthy.
Un-neutered, un-vaccinated animals are a THREAT to OUR Working Animals.


Neuter your pets........ASSHOLE!

but that is pretty frickin' tacky PETA! People are not dogs.

Leave it to PETA to get people talking.

might be time to hire a external firm!