Religious "Bill of Rights" ??

from Associated Press:

"DENVER (AP) — A Republican state lawmaker wants to make sure that students and teachers can express their religious beliefs in public schools. Sen. Dave Schultheis of Colorado Springs is proposing that the state education board draft two religious bills of rights — one for students and parents and one for teachers and school employees — and that schools post them prominently.

The bill will get its first hearing in the Legislature on Monday.

Among other things, the students' bill of rights would have to state that students have the right to express religious beliefs in homework assignments, exchange greeting cards with religious themes and sing religious songs in school-sponsored programs. Teachers would have the right to refuse to teach a topic that violates their beliefs."

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Schultheis, it should be noted, represents the Dobsonites, the FOFers. It can be very safely assumed that the 'religious beliefs' he's talking about do not include anything but Christianity. By his own record he is a bigot, a racist, a misogynist, a homophobe; the one thing he is NOT is Christian, at least not as expressed by the founder of that particular faith.


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self-deluded m***** F*****s 1, reason and rational thinking 0

kind of religious freedom, stand the fuck by!

That would fall under "violates a teacher's beliefs"

Ten seconds of "dinosaurs were on the ark" should be sufficient grounds to skip class. These wingnuts really don't have the intelligence to think things through to their logical conclusions.

:sarcasm:

Whose beliefs? The teacher or the student?

Not that it matters. Either one is a disaster.

This should be included in the their "Bill or Rights." :silly:
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Actually, I was just being sarcastic. But this ranting to have religions in public schools is getting very old and very tiresome. I think this topic is reported more often than it's warranted so that the real issues of the day can be neglected.

:banghead:

Maybe students will insist on enshrining 3 while rejecting 6: "Banish 666 from the math textbooks." ;-)

Opps, wrong religion. These fools have noooo idea what kind of Pandora's Box they will open if they don't knock this crap off. Used to be enough to make as many babies as possible in hope of out numbering the rest of us but I guess they have given up on that one. Now it is time for us to open our lunch pails and listen to their special stories. Ackkkk!

maybe then they would understand the church/state relationship the founding fathers put in there.

Colorado will be spending tons of money defending this legislation in the courts, most likely to no avail.

So long as this applies to EVERYONE of EVERY faith or non-faith.

Of course.. we all know it won't really go that way. :/

It's called 'resigning'.

:wtf:

oh,

form N-470 exempts religious missionaries, as an example. Just try getting approved if you're spreading Islam into Catholic Philipines, for example. It's in our laws already, but not uniformly enforced by Homeland Security, which now handles immigration.

Government should not give special rights to any religion's crusade. Have we not learned from history that it fails horribly?

so I'm sure this tool fails to understand the concept of using a "bill of rights" for religion goes against the real Bill of Rights.

Obviously not.

Sounds like I'm smarting off, but I don't see why schools should be singled out.

He says he puts out these bills that will never make it out of committee just to keep the issue in the forefront. In these dire economic times, he puts out dreck and calls it legislation.

The Air Force Academy has a neo pagan circle that is causing some angst among the self termed "Christians" around here. They are nothing but a bunch of ignorant, wingnut cultists. I'd love to see dim bulb Dave's face when the pagan kids assert their religious rights, as if his bill had a chance of passing. He's the "English only" advocate who seemed clueless that there are generations of Coloradans who have grown up speaking Spanish. They have been in this region since it was Spain and, most specifically, before Colorado was a state.

He can't run again for senator or representative, so I guess he may be looking at a county commissioner spot. Oh, joy. Perhaps the county employees will enjoy them some bible study groups.

:eyes:

ted haggard, etc., etc., there are certainly a lot of embarrassing nut cases in CS. I would love to attribute it to the lack of oxygen at thia altitude, but, sadly, they are just plain stoooooopid.

but neither teachers nor administrators are permitted to force THEIR beliefs on students!

People who believe in this garbage really are useless in the grand scheme of things.

"who believe in this garbage really are useless in the grand scheme of things."

As are all who believe in human constructs which exist nowhere but our own imaginations (philosophy, the arts, politics, etc.)? Or does this apply only to a human construct you yourself don't like?

"The right of a citizen to believe in any mythological system they choose shall not be abridged; the mythological beliefs of one citizen may not be used to stifle scientific inquiry, dilute the science curriculum of any educational body receiving public funds, or to justify war or the violation of the human rights and civil liberties of those holding competing mythological beliefs; the right of a citizen to hold mythological beliefs shall in no way be construed as granting special privileges over those who subscribe to minority mythological beliefs or none at all; the right to hold mythological beliefs, and to state them publicly, is not a guarantee of freedom from being offended by those who disagree with those beliefs."

These dipshits want it both ways - no taxes on religious organizations, and the ability to be as mean and political as they want.

Tax them into the ground.

but do nothing to support them. Some openly compete with public schools and reality that is taught in public schools.

Are you infringing on my religious rights by giving me a low grade or correcting me?

That was Radiohead.

religious sentiment or symbol --

Sorry, if he claims to be a Christian, he is one. You don't get to disown him just because his version is nuttier.

One facet which would be to protect me from the religious using "freedom of expression" to put their shit in my personal space when I'm in public.

Is "freedom of expression" a right to FORCE your expressions down people's throats?

We need a deeper, broader separation of church and state.

Not just right-wing religious lunatics that belong to one very small percentage of one of the major religions.

this man continues to be a major embarrassment.