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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 11:29 AM Original message |
Obama's Atomic Blunder: He's driven a deep wedge between himself and the environmental movement |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
1. What left constituency hasn't he stabbed in the back? |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 11:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Beat me to it. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 11:53 AM Response to Reply #1 |
18. Because it's a phony 'oppositional' party for a phony rep democracy |
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invictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 12:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
20. +1 |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 12:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
30. +1000000000! nt |
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Blue_In_AK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 01:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
34. You are correct, in my opinion. |
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n2doc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 03:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
62. laid out |
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theophilus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
3. Well, I'll wait until one of these new plants is actually running before I get too upset. |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
4. Honestly, it's stupid beyond words for Obama to support nuclear power... |
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theophilus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. We could be seeing him work the "long" game. We haven't seen that sort of thing |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 11:42 AM Response to Reply #8 |
12. There's no excuse for agreeing to those things without concessions... |
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theophilus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 11:44 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. If "voters" want changes in energy policies they better start putting pressure on |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 11:48 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Voters put Obama there to fight for the change he campaigned on... |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 02:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
52. If Obama wants change to come bottom-up, then he didn't read the job |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 12:18 PM Response to Reply #8 |
23. The center cannot hold; things fall apart. nt |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 02:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
38. As a supporter of nuclear power, I agree. You gotta get the points where you can. |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
5. I read an article in Mother Jones last year saying the head of the Sierra Club |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 11:36 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. I think you're right, but there are many that look for any excuse or reason |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 11:52 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Yes, we do. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. No you don't! Read the Sierra Club news release. |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #5 |
27. The Sierra Club is opposed to the nuclear power loan guarantees. Read their news release here |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 02:23 PM Response to Reply #27 |
39. You are correct I was confused, it was the head of Greenpeace not Sierra club |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 03:41 PM Response to Reply #39 |
57. Patrick Moore and Greenpeace are against building nuclear power plants |
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liberal_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #5 |
46. The Columbia River here in the state of Washington is in danger from nuclear waste |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
6. Nuclear power is a better option than burning more fossil fuels |
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timeforpeace (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 11:39 AM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Really? Does anyone really care about the greenhouse effects and carbon emmissions? Who? |
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theophilus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 11:40 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I do. n/t |
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theophilus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 11:39 AM Response to Reply #6 |
10. I agree but Fusion would be super plus better. n/t |
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FarCenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 11:52 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Levitating magnet brings space physics to fusion |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 11:51 AM Response to Reply #6 |
15. Some liberals agree with that. It is not so cut and dried. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
40. Being shot in the leg is a better option than being shot in the stomach |
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asjr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
19. If it stops the degradation of mountain tops by |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 03:43 PM Response to Reply #19 |
59. It won't. |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
21. people who build them better be UNION people. you dont want nuke plants |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #21 |
35. The nuke plants built at the same site in the eighties |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 02:13 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. you dont want a weld on a containment unit to be done by an unskilled worker |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 02:46 PM Response to Reply #36 |
49. No link |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 03:46 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. Sure you did. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
22. oh for the love of reason. Vermont is not seething with radioactive contamination |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 12:29 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. So what "hysterical bullshit" did you detect in the following comments? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. What part of Vermont isn't seething with radioactive waste didn't you grasp? |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 12:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. The one that wasn't in the article which you pretended to be commenting on |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. aaargh. I made my point. I'm refuting the idiot claim that VT is seething |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 01:16 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. You called me "sweetie"! Did you send me a valentine during the fund drive? |
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The2ndWheel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
26. There's no environmental movement |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
32. I wonder what Gore thinks of his endorsement of Obama now? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 02:53 PM Response to Reply #32 |
50. Al Gore is not against nuclear power |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 03:38 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. Fair enough. But he's not exactly Pro Nuclear either |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 04:05 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. He thought it would "continue to play a role" |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 02:14 PM Original message |
K & R |
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democracy1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
37. K & R |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 02:36 PM Response to Original message |
41. Under Bush, we'd have called it (rightfully) corporate welfare. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Easy way to fix that. |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 02:55 PM Response to Reply #41 |
51. Are subsidies to wind and solar "corporate welfare"? n/t |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
42. Bullshit. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Bullshit on calling those who disagree with you hysterical fear-monkeys |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 02:43 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Look upthread and at other DU nuclear power discussions. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 03:24 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. "the Luddite Brigade"? And you want me to take your complaint seriously? |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 03:32 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. I never claimed moral high ground. |
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Tom Rinaldo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 03:42 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. I see... |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
43. The green movement was co-opted by GE Nuclear. Remember Al Gore's Live Earth was sponsored by GE |
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liberal_at_heart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
48. The republicans are the kings of non regulation and the democrats are too scared to regulate |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 03:29 PM Response to Reply #48 |
54. Nuclear is a heavily-regulated industry -- |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 03:53 PM Response to Reply #54 |
63. On the "fight" between the dirty coal and nuclear power industry I say plague on both your houses! |
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uponit7771 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
61. HUGE UNREC for the antiabortion mindset of antinuke power folk |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-17-10 03:56 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. I believe that most of us support free choice in abortions. I certainly do. |
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