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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 02:25 PM
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The Mother of all perpetual wars- The War on Terror
Edited on Wed Feb-17-10 02:35 PM by kpete
“Inter arma silent leges: in time of war the laws are silent.”
And, I feel like extending the line by adding
”…for as long as the people wish to remain silent.”



The Makings of a Police State-Part VII

Monday, 15. February 2010

Perpetual Wars & the Permanent Wartime Presidency
By Sibel Edmonds

With almost a decade under its belt, our multi-front war on a vaguely defined notion of terrorism targeting never-really-defined enemies across the world and here in the newly rephrased ‘homeland’ has come to define the state of our nation. Even the meager limitations on presidential powers of the last six decades have in effect been nullified and replaced with a newly declared and interpreted authority mirroring those of past emperors and kings, and of any classic authoritarian regimes’ rulers. One look at the last decade’s successfully won legal arguments on behalf of the executive, the presidency, is enough to establish the common theme that ‘the war on terror is global and indefinite in scope, and that it effectively removes all traditional limits of wartime authority to the times and places of imminent or actual battle.’

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The Mother of all perpetual wars, War on Terror, followed by unjustified and undeclared wars: Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen, Iran… Who are the enemies? Bad Taliban, Semi-bad Taliban, Al-Qaeda, Al-Qaeda Supporters, Possible Al-Qaeda, Islamists, Fanatics, semi-fanatics, fanatic-looking dudes, Iran-ists, and with them all the civilians ‘just our collateral damage.’; babies, women, elderly…Kidnapping, torture, assassinations, black sites, black operations, black budgets…

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For the winners in the Perpetual War, the military-intelligence-surveillance industrial complexes, the empire presidency and its advocates, and the parasitic class who lives beneath and off of them…the state of Perpetual War is a long-held dream coming true.

For the losers,
we, the public majority, the mothers losing their sons and daughters to wars, the spouses left to deal with their returning amputated loved ones, many in need of medical care but with no coverage or assistance, the hard-working class dutifully parting with needed dollars and foregoing all expectations, the seekers of liberties…the realities of these made-up emergencies, and the real consequences of these vague wars are either not registering, or are being accepted and paid for silently.

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more:
http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2010/02/15/the-makings-of-a-police-state-part-vii/
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 02:28 PM
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1. The sad part to me is how many on the Left have fallen for it in the last year.
It's just another aspect of human nature that both fascinates and disgusts me....how we accept certain things by merely putting a new face on it. In this case, a "D" in front of it was enough to make it acceptable.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 02:37 PM
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3. yup, well said.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 02:39 PM
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4. it sickens me. knr
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 03:04 PM
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9. not just relabeling: the 00s had a drumbeat of Lynne-Cheneyisms appearing disguised in lib rhetoric
there's the Euston Manifesto by the liberal hawks, Muslim Brotherhood and AEI member Hirsi Ali peddling Islamophobia in the name of secularism and women's rights, Jyllands-Posten screaming free speech after rejecting cartoons mocking Jesus (I mean, what would Alfred Rosenberg think?), Sam Harris giving a non-fundie rationale for torture, and Ditchkins preaching the utter evil and intolerance of every Muslim

that's why PR groups are so dangerous: it's hard to come up with specific, reasoned responses to their coy, "reasonable" talking points
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 03:54 PM
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11. Yup.
Edited on Wed Feb-17-10 03:54 PM by Hell Hath No Fury
It sickens me to no end. :puke:

I marched in the streets with ten of thousands of people against the wars -- repeatedly -- where the hell are they now? :mad:

I guess the magic of the "D" (or is it "O"?) makes it all OK. :puke:
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 02:32 PM
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2. k&r
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 02:40 PM
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5. It couldn't have been better conceived by George Orwell himself. n/t
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 02:46 PM
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6. Creating vague bogeymen to scare the people is a growth industry. K&R
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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 02:53 PM
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7. I don't know. I bet the "War on Drugs" has cost more in the long run.
If you consider all of the federal, state, and local costs of catching and incarcerating people for minor drug offenses, trafficking, and assistance to foreign countries I bet has cost at least as much if not more than the oil wars, er, I mean "war on terror".

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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 02:56 PM
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8. part of the plan..cheap prison labour for corporate profit
you either suck them into the military to be cannon fodder for corporate wars or put them in prison for minor offenses for corporate slave labour..its a win win for corporations either way..

the bastards
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 03:19 PM
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10. Project for a New American Century: PNAC is the winner
For the winners in the Perpetual War, the military-intelligence-surveillance industrial complexes, the empire presidency and its advocates, and the parasitic class who lives beneath and off of them…the state of Perpetual War is a long-held dream coming true.
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 04:07 PM
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13. Recall Will Marshall of the DLC is a PNAC signatory
The neo-liberals differ little from the neocons in foreign policy just more nuance.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 03:56 PM
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12. k&r
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 04:08 PM
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14. Fakw Wars, Fake Political System, Fake Reality On TV.
The United States Of Fauxmerica.

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classysassy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-17-10 10:03 PM
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15. "War is a racket"
and the racketeers are racking in the big bucks.
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