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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:47 AM
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Overwhelming Majority of Dems, Reps & Independents OPPOSE Corporations United decision
Washington Post, February 17, 2010.

Especially with yesterday's release of the poll excerpted below, it is incredibly clear that the American public is overwhelmingly and strongly opposed to Citizens United across all parties, races, classes and incomes.



All that remains is to broaden the actual fight against the decision to issues more fundamental than "foreign money" which, even if successful, does nothing against the main issue - ideological nonprofit corporations like Citizens United itself, and "American" corporations like Exxon Mobil and Wal-Mart.

Americans of both parties overwhelmingly oppose a Supreme Court ruling that allows corporations and unions to spend as much as they want on political campaigns, and most favor new limits on such spending, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll. {...} The poll reveals relatively little difference of opinion on the issue among Democrats (85 percent opposed to the ruling), Republicans (76 percent) and independents (81 percent).

Nearly three-quarters of self-identified conservative Republicans say they oppose the Supreme Court ruling, with most of them strongly opposed. Some two-thirds of conservative Republicans favor congressional efforts to limit corporate and union spending, though with less enthusiasm than liberal Democrats.

Indeed, the poll shows remarkably strong agreement about the ruling across all demographic groups, and big majorities of those with household incomes above and below $50,000 alike oppose the decision. Age, race and education levels also appeared to have little relative bearing on the answers. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/17/AR2010021701151.html


The Poll was conducted Feb. 4 to 8 by conventional and cellular telephone. The margin of sampling error for the for the full poll of 1,004 randomly selected adults is plus or minus three percentage points.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/02/17/AR2010021701151.html
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nykym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:57 AM
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1. Repeal
Corporate Personhood immediately.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:01 AM
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2. Agreed, though it's more like corporate superiority/corporate rule to be repealed

If corporations were simply equal to one person in all respects, the problem would be a drop in the bucket compared to what we actually have. That being said, they are obviously not "persons" possessed of inalienable rights or rights of constitutional free speech in the political realm.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:01 AM
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3. Do you really believe Congress will do something about it? It is beginning to look like it is all
hot air coming from Congress, and we are being played for suckers
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:10 AM
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4. Those full of hot air need to feel to feel hotter.
That is up to us.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:25 AM
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6. I agree, however, the money many of them are getting from their corporate brothers, makes things
much cooler for them
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:42 AM
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10. Not if we point out that taking money to defy the people is illegitimate! n/t
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:10 AM
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5. Will be very difficult for Congress NOT to, if they are continually reminded of polls like this one
n/t
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:26 AM
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7. Not if they are getting funding from the corporations /nt
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:41 AM
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9. Repeat: It will be difficult for them, because if they follow corporate america, it's Illegitimate
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:27 AM
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8. Again & again, time after time
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:43 AM
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11. can we please have a constitutional amendment saying corporations aren't people?
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:43 AM
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12. or start giving corporations prostate exams?
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:43 AM
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13. Since you're saying "please" the answer is NO. Just reframe that as a demand. :) n/t
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 11:46 AM
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14. can we please put their CEO's heads on the picket fence around the White House?
only without the please.
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 02:37 PM
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18. Because corporations are not human beings, yes you may! ;) n/t
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 12:06 PM
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15. Push for public financing of federal campaigns. Allocate
funds based on factors such as population, area, media costs.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 01:07 PM
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16. yes, this is good news. The American people are way ahead of their "leaders"...
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 02:34 PM
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17. And yet another poll just out with huge numbers, link here
http://www.surveyusa.com/client/PollReport.aspx?g=05cabb5f-599f-47a8-98fb-e3e254e425e4&c=161

The results of the poll include the following:

* 78% believe that corporations should be limited in how much they can spend to influence elections, and 70% believe they already have too much influence over elections

* 73% believe Congress should be able to impose such limits, and 61% believe Congress has done too little in the past to limit corporate influence over elections

* Of the over 60% of Americans who have an opinion on a constitutional amendment to fix Citizens United, supports runs greater than 2 to 1

* 82% support limits on electioneering by government contractors, and 87% support limits on bailout recipients

* 85% support a complete ban on electioneering by foreign corporations

* 75% believe that a publicly traded company should get shareholder approval before spending money in an election

* 69% think that the President, in the event of a Supreme Court vacancy, should nominate a Justice who supports limits on corporate spending in elections
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2 Much Tribulation Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 03:05 PM
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19. kick
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 04:11 PM
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20. Finally, bipartisan agreement.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 04:14 PM
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21. repeal it then...
and impeach the fascist bastards who made this decision.
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 06:57 PM
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22. I almost feel like I can breathe again
It's good to know that most people do understand what has been done to us - and what must be done to correct it.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 07:04 PM
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23. This must surely be a bell-wether of the precisely how desperate a plight your country
is under its current rulers. A spectrum of opposition ,ranging between 76 percent and 85 percent, sounds about as conclusive a majority as any poll or set of polls could get on any subject.

Well done, Paul>
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 10:18 PM
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25. I don't know of any poll with higher numbers against a Supreme Court decision n/t
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 08:16 PM
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28. It's difficult to imagine otherwise.
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scentopine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-18-10 07:38 PM
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24. We need more pressure for change !!! -nt
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 12:15 AM
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26. KNR corporations are the enemy of the people. nt
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Land Shark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 09:15 AM
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27. You mean corporations aren't the people? ;) n/t
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