Because Stack criticized the rich and corporations in his diatribe

Rush and Beck and the rest of the howler monkeys have probably already transformed him into a rabid lefty. This will be characterized as a "left wing terror attack" by them and soon the MSM will pick up that narrative as well.

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Taxes are the fees we pay for living in a civilized society.

If the lion's share of that money was actually going towards universal health coverage, roads, schools, infrastucture, etc., I'm sure my patriotic enthusiasm level, come April 15 would be much higher.

Unfortunately, if you look at where the vast majority of our discretionary budget goes, it's the Military Industrial Complex. Then you have idiotic shit like abstinence only education and the "drug war". (I'm all for paying the police; funding an endless DEA gravy train to fight pot smoking cancer grannies is another matter)

Truth of the matter is, our taxes pay for a tremendous amount of stupid shit.

Its inherently incompatible with the notion of an unfunded government that cannot actually implement leftist policy

...but the IRS is eviiil. The concept is sound, but the mechanism is horrifyingly flawed. Anyone who has been through the misfortune of an audit would agree.

The ones where they tell you to pay more and give you a chance to appeal. They took me at my word, we met in the middle, and they accepted my check no questions asked. Ive had worst experiences

when dealing with the IRS.

The people who lied to me and got pissed off when they were found out by the IRS deserve the penalties and interest they get socked with...

But everytime I challanged and back it up, I won...

public safety etc.) It's the use of building bombs that disturbs me but never to the point of violence.

Thats a big part of why I left the states. I mean, I know I still pay for some death due to Canada's action in NATO, but not nearly as bad. But aside from that, I never minded taxes at all. Especially property taxes that went to the local schools

That's the perfect description of repukes. They throw their own feces too.

and ex-wife (that he alludes to) have to say...

Might be pretty juicy too.

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fly planes into buildings when they get caught not once but at least twice for breaking the law? I don't think so. His 'manifesto' was 6 pages of gobbledygook with the only thing consistent in it was his rabid anti-tax diatribe, more on the lines of a Libertarian than anything else, imo.

citizens who know they've been had.

"Big Brother" is pulled directly from Beck's program.

Although I'm now being a hypocrite per my earlier GD thread.

It's part of the narratives he builds.

Sanchez said this guy was basically anti-everything.

parts about taxes.

The more they peg him as anti-tax the more he will be associated with Beck and them.

How does that square with their demonization of Al-Jazeera for broadcasting bin Laden's messages, or for that matter the New York Times for printing the Unibomber Manifesto?

They can/will say it was "the Democrats sky high taxes that drove this guy over the edge."

It will be interesting to find out what his politics really were. It would be very interesting to put pieces of what he wrote in front of people across the political spectrum and see who agrees with what. Teapartyers will find a lot to agree with in his manifesto. But then, so will lefties.

reads like a tea-partier with the hate for all things government. He might have some left leaning in there but it is surface and used as another reason to blame government for everything. Seems to have a problem with the Catholic Church specifically and maybe religion in general. Much of his rant has been spouted by Fux News and the GOP. The only thing slightly left was the mention of health-care and that was a minor mention in that it was another way to blame big business and government for ripping him off.

Middle class people on all parts of the spectrum would find something in his rant to agree with.

agree 100 percent on are their hate of taxes and government. That rant was full of both. The tea-baggers allow themselves the "freedom" to hate anything else they feel they have a right to hate including corporations, minorities, certain churches etc. That is what they use as their excuse that they are not repukes only and are open to all types of people and beliefs. They point out not everyone is a racist etc. Whether he was a tea-bagger I do not know but he would fit in with them and anger/hate definitely could of been fueled their rhetoric


The effect that hate groups have on those that are mentally unbalanced and full of anger is what is so dangerous about them. I include the tea-baggers, right-wing radio and Fox news with hate groups.

That describes a lot of right-wingers, certainly. I don't know enough about him to say if he's a tea-bagger or not. The truth is no doubt more complex than a label can summarize it as. The media love labels because they're like a door slammed in the face of reason. No more thinking required. I think it's a good idea not to fall into the habits media have trained us to follow.

I just have a problem with the lefty and even worse sounds like a DU'er comments when he sounded so much like tea-baggers that preach to me around here. I am surrounded by them where I live and they do sound like him. I will stick to using his manifesto on the local ones when they start spouting off with the same language. I refuse to sit down and shut up locally so I drive them nuts, specially the males that are not used to a woman talking back. :) I can always hope I am being a bad influence on their women.

He sounds like a troubled person. Had to have been one to do what he did. Troubled and paranoid. It's not a big jump from paranoid to wing-nut!

I don't get it. Does it make some "more comfortable" to forget that this nation has moved so far to the RIGHT, us lefties would be considered "mainstream democrats" if we were now transported back to the 1970s?

My point: Us lefties hold MAINSTREAM American Values.

I am sure Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck are already writing something so freaking outrageous that they will once again qualify as KO's Worst person in the world.

They're are many of them and they spew the same type of anti-taxation drivel.

More ruby ridge than anything else.

Damn, I lose faith in this if, by any stretch of the imagination, this guy is cast as "left wing."

From California that is a CPA. Donated to McCain.

There are only 2 or 3 that show up on a Zeba search for Cal. He seems to have gone by Joe and not Joseph. Add on top of that that he was a cpa and that brings the numbers down even more.

I highly doubt this guy gave money to either candidates from his manifesto.

He mentions it in his manifesto. Also says he was a cpa.

I went to school with several Stacks. I think one of them was even named Joe, so you could probably find a few Joe Stacks in any state.

This story is going to go away, very quickly.

He made his own decision to attempt mass murder, of his own free will.