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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 08:58 AM
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Kansas lawmaker compares rape to auto theft
Kansas lawmakers are currently considering a law that would bar insurance providers from covering elective abortions — unless a woman pays extra for a special plan. The problem with such coverage, however, is that it forces women to "plan for a completely unexpected event." The bill "wouldn’t apply to abortions performed to save the life of a woman, or to pregnancies resulting from rape or incest." However, in the latter case, women would first be forced to file a police report:

The bill would require a police report to be filed if the woman wants an abortion to be covered by her insurance under the incest or rape exemptions. (...)

"You’d have to have a report that someone stole your car," said Rep. Steve Brunk, a Bel Aire Republican. "This is kind of the same thing."


"Rape is a deeply traumatic event," Sandy Barnett, director of the Kansas Coalition Against Sexual and Domestic Violence, explained. "Often (victims) are afraid of law enforcement and the criminal justice system itself." Requiring women to purchase a special abortion "rider" is discriminatory, since there is no comparable extra coverage that men need to purchase. As Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) has asked, would men who support an abortion rider also support a rider for Viagra?

http://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/18/kansas-rape-auto/
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 09:18 AM
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1. What an asshole!
:grr:
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dustbunnie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 09:25 AM
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2. The level of discourse about abortion is so fracking childish in this country!

Do some people actually sit there, nod their heads and thoughtfully consider the words of these morons?
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left coaster Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 09:28 AM
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3. I wish a car thief would rape Rep. Brunk..
..preferably, with a car.
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heli Donating Member (276 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 09:34 AM
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4. Would he make the same comparison if it was his wife?
"Nah, no biggie, I'll just report it stolen."
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 10:00 AM
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5. And would he make the same comparison if it was HIM?
Men can be raped too, you know.
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DirkGently Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 10:50 AM
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6. Methodical attacks on women
like this insurance ploy, which seemed begin or gain strength in the healthcare reform debate, undercut whatever claims to a genuine moral or ethical position the anti-abortion movement claims to have. Every new tactic like this points to a far uglier motivation -- blaming and shaming and terrorizing women -- that I've long felt is the underlying impetus for a lot of the anti-abortion vehemence out there. It's as old as burning "witches" at the stake, and just as grotesque.

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Better Today Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:29 AM
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7. Rape should be reported, regardless of this insurance issue,
everytime a person doesn't report their rape, is an opening for the person to rape someone else. It is quite normal and accepted in this country that a crime that isn't reported isn't considered crime-enough, I don't see a problem with that aspect of this.

I do see a problem with only incest, life of mother, and rape being the only things covered. Elective abortions should not be considered differently than any other medical procedure.
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 12:34 PM
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8. do you have any idea what rape victims go through in even attempting to report a rape? it's easy to
say "report it"--but when you have police who demean, belittle, even threaten a victim, treat her as if SHE had done something wrong, it is understandable that many victims would be reluctant--and that is BEFORE the treatment they get in court, from the defense.
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