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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 10:57 AM
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If He'd Been A Muslim Or Minority-"They'd Be Calling For The Posthumous Beheading Of His Ashes"
Edited on Fri Feb-19-10 11:19 AM by kpete
Friday, February 19, 2010
Hypocrisy over IRS Bomber

If you hate the US government for collecting taxes from you and are willing to fly a plan into a Federal building, you just might be a terrorist.



But, nah, not if you're a white guy.



Some, who likewise are outraged at paying taxes, are eager to adopt this domestic terrorist.


If he'd been a Muslim or a member of another minority group, they'd be calling for the posthumous beheading of his ashes.


The end:
http://www.juancole.com/2010/02/hypocrisy-over-irs-bomber.html

........

If we're really going to vest virtually unlimited power in the Government to do anything it wants to people they call "Terrorists," we ought at least to have a common understanding of what the term means. But there is none. It's just become a malleable, all-justifying term to allow the U.S. Government carte blanche to do whatever it wants to Muslims it does not like or who do not like it (i.e., The Terrorists). It's really more of a hypnotic mantra than an actual word: its mere utterance causes the nation blindly to cheer on whatever is done against the Muslims who are so labeled.
more:
http://www.salon.com/news/terrorism/index.html?story=/opinion/greenwald/2010/02/19/terrorism
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:04 AM
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1. Indeed.
Joe Stack is no different than the bomber who straps explosives around his body, then walks into a public place and sets off the explosives. There is no difference, whatever.

It doesn't matter what Joe Stack's political point was. It appears that he didn't think he should have to pay taxes. No matter. The bomber in the public square has some sort of political view, too.

Who cares? Such an act is an act of terrorism, regardless of the politics involved. To seek to kill others in your attempt to make a point is terrorism. It is that simple.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:13 AM
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2. If someone wants to die to make a political point,
Edited on Fri Feb-19-10 11:14 AM by MineralMan
here is how to do that. You'll be remembered for decades. Do not do as Joe Stack did. You will not make your point, and you will be reviled:

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d.gibbs Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:35 AM
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12. "No news picture in history has generated so much emotion around the world as that one." - JFK
Edited on Fri Feb-19-10 11:36 AM by d.gibbs
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:41 AM
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13. Indeed. It was, and remains, a life-changing image.
If someone wishes to use his or her own death to promote a point of view or to protest something, this photo shows the proper way to do that. Never involve others.
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invictus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:13 AM
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3. K&R
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:15 AM
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4. K&R
I need to get off DU.

It's fucking sickening how many are trying so hard to make excuses for this guy.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:17 AM
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5. Don't go. Stay and stand up proudly.
It's important.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:20 AM
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7. No kidding.
And, we need to stay aware, it would be no less despicable an act if he'd been a hard-core lefty (which thank heavens he was not).
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:19 AM
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6. To be a minority in America, be it because of race, ethnicity, religion or sexual orientation....
..... is to always be on trial for what other members of your group might do. There is no benefit of the doubt. Sadly it's something we learn early on in life.


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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:21 AM
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8. I've seen disgusting posts here at DU seemingly offering qualified support..
Edited on Fri Feb-19-10 11:22 AM by Tarheel_Dem
for this asshole, and it's sickening. I knew there were anarchists here all along, but that crap shouldn't be tolerated. There is never a reason to target government employees, no matter who's in the WH.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:22 AM
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9. And no matter which side they're on.
I'd be just as disgusted and just as adamant about him being a terrorist if he had been a lefty targeting a defense contractor or whatever the hell.

That's the other red herring the excuse-makers are using... 'well you're just trying to score political points!' Fucking pathetic.

Terorrists are terorrists.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:32 AM
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11. I just read an o.p from someone whom I've had a great admiration for. To say
I'm disappointed is a monumental understatement. People trying to justify or rationalize this guy's behavior is appalling to me. Perhaps DU really isn't for me anymore. I've had personal and professional setbacks all my life, but it would never dawn on me to hurt innocents, no matter who they are.

I'm so disgusted right now, I can't see straight.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:43 AM
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14. It's important that people who feel as you do stay on DU and
speak up. Without that, the direction of the forum will surely change in a bad way.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:43 AM
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15. "I'm so disgusted right now, I can't see straight."
My sentiments exactly.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 12:51 PM
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17. One guy called him a hero. One guy called him a martyer. Many believe he had a lot of good points.
Many of these are the people that post little but anti-Obama rhetoric.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 01:04 PM
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18. Exactly. And this the reason I know that DU has been hijacked since the primaries.
We actually have people on this board celebrating this guy who I'm sure has little in common with most of us. Most of us probably don't own a business. Most of us probably don't live in a swanky suburb. Most of us probably don't own a private plane. And most of us probably pay our damned taxes.

I was pretty confident I'd be able to pick out the DU'ers who would defend this disgusting, selfish asshole, and so far I haven't been wrong.
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601Liberal Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:25 AM
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10. I thought the same thing myself
The guy who committed the shootings at Fort Hood was branded a terrorist, though he is an American citizen. A white man (assumingly Christian) crashes his plane into a government building and no one calls him a terrorist. They both committed horrible acts. What gives?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 12:48 PM
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16. body counts...
Edited on Fri Feb-19-10 12:48 PM by Javaman
How it effects the economy.

The 9/11 guys flew two plans into buildings in the financial district of New York to make a point about the US global dominance both militarily and economically.

So some dumb fuck flies his small plan into a small building with no massive body counts and little to no effect upon the economy.

Honestly, what is difference? Size.

However, if the guy had changed course just a few miles he would have hit the souther district offices of the IRS. If he hit that, would he then be called a terrorist by the MSM?

The guy by all definitions, is a terrorist. Size in this case, certainly does not matter.
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Maru Kitteh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 01:09 PM
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19. K & R
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