Florida bill would make abortion punishable by life in prison

An expansive measure to make most abortions illegal in Florida has been filed for the 2010 Legislative session, challenging federal protections in place for more than 40 years.

Both anti-abortion advocates and abortion rights supporters agree the 53-page proposal is an attempt to directly challenge the 40-year-old Roe v. Wade U.S. Supreme Court decision that legalized abortions in the United States in 1973.

“The Legislature finds that there have been 50 million abortions in the United States since the Roe decision,” the bill reads. “ The Legislature further finds that every life lost to abortion was sacred and of the highest value.”

Sponsored by Rep. Charles Van Zant, R-Palatka, HB 1097 would criminalize most abortions now allowed under state and federal law, increase penalties for physicians who perform such services and require pregnant women to receive more information on adoption. The bill was filed Wednesday, the same day that right to life groups made the trek to Tallahassee to meet lawmakers and rally support.

http://www.jaxobserver.com/2010/02/19/abortion-bill-filed-in-legislature/

I assume this won't go far. Most of us would assume that. The reality is that there must always be a counter voice to these nuts.

It does so love its life sentences and its gulag.

If they truly were consistent, they would also penalize women who seek abortions. So far as I can tell from the news article, only doctors would be arrested. I suppose that's because us foolish women don't know any better -- we just show up pregnant at the doctor's office and are forced into having an abortion at gunpoint.

:grr:

Really, :wtf:

Recommended.

What are they thinking????

Be sure the Independents see and hear this.

And what about the many lives lost due to the criminal shenanigans of the so-called health insurance companies?

:wtf:

But I agree-- Give me a fucking break. This is bullshit. Evil bullshit at that.


Don't get me started on insurance companies. I know you were in nursing so you know what I'm talking about. In my field transplant, certain insurance companies will stop paying for absolutely necessary and life saving meds at the 3 year mark. I had people return in severe rejection because of insurance changes and all kinds of mess. It never stops, and neither do the heart breaking stories

They would be forced to slap it down if it came to a SC challenge.

There's too much precedent even for them to withstand.

I must disagree. Scalia and his faction are ideologues of the highest order, who have no problem ignoring precedent or even their own previous opinions.

It would be the hydrogen bomb of Supreme Court decisions.

It would not only destroy abortion, but would open up the whole concept of stare decisis (law settled by precedent).

And they wouldn't want THAT.

that votes for REPUBLICANS

Our local ones are Democratic, but I do not know how they would vote on this, I am ashamed to say.

If they're so fscking concerned about a right to life, why aren't they fighting for single-payer and against the death penalty? :eyes:

...and the brain-dead (Schiavo). Everyone else in-between is pretty much on their own... :-(

and blew 'em. When in the fucking hell are these life-long dillholes going to be relegated to the fossil bin they belong in?!!!! :argh:

The Florida Constitution has a more expansive right to privacy than the US Constitution. Past attempts at stuff like this have been struck down by the Florida Supreme Court. Even if passed, it is unlikely to make it into enforceable law. Same thing with separation of Church and State, the Florida Constitution is far more clear and emphatic in banning expenditure of public funds for religious purposes. This is why JEB's voucher program never went anywhere. He got it passed, signed it into law, and lost it at the Florida Supreme Court.

It is great red meat for an election campaign though, particularly in the redder precincts found in and around Palatka.

When a repuke says this, pin him down.

Ask him if he wants women to be forced to take pregnancy tests every month, then be put in special 'pregnancy jails' until they miscarry or give birth.

Does he want women to have to submit their sanitary napkins to the police every month to see if there's an aborted embryo in it?

Ask him if it's a-ok by him if women's uterus' can be considered crime scenes and become police property.

If abortion is really 'murder' like they say, it should have the strictest possible penalties, right? Would he be willing to put women in jail for life for this?

I've gotten every single repuke I've ever talked to about this to totally back down. It's a PRIVACY issue. It's too personal a matter and there are so many ways to cause a miscarriage. Making abortion illegal does NOT reduce the number of abortions. All it does is kill women and girls.

Which is just fine and dandy with the 'pro-life' crowd.

could over ride federal law...Roe vs Wade doesn't that say a person can get an abortion.

I think this abortion stuff is just a way for the republicans to harangue the Democrats. Here you have a party of people who think it is OK to kill doctors, torture and kill prisoners, start unprovoked wars and let people die from lack of care.....But they want to put chains around a woman's right to do what she wants with her body.

I can not tell you enough. If the damn congress had the cuts to hold the father of the child as responsible as the mother and cut off his penis so there would be anymore unwanted pregnancies this would all stop.

is forced to bear a child she doesn't want must give the child to its father at birth so the father can accept the burden for the first 18 years of life. If he refuses, his wages are garnished until the end of time. If the father is nowhere to be found, the state - which prohibited the abortion - is on the hook for the financial well being of the child.

"“The Legislature finds that there have been 50 million abortions in the United States since the Roe decision,” the bill reads. “ The Legislature further finds that every life lost to abortion was sacred and of the highest value.”"

That's an impossible 'finding'. It simply cannot be found outside of a religious context.

I'd very much like to hear these idiots claim that they 'value every welfare baby'... that'd be a tough one for them.