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a kennedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 10:53 AM
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Sarah Palin's Irish cousin disowns her
Sarah Palin has one living Irish relative – and he wants nothing to do with her.

Reverend Simon Lathrop is a Church of Ireland pastor living in the midlands of Ireland, and recently Palin campaigners have contacted the cleric seeking to enlist his support for her future endeavors. Lathrop, however, dislikes his cousin's politics and is rather embarrassed by his link to Palin. In the past he has even attended anti-American rallies, according to newsfromireland.com.

"In the last few months, I have been inundated with calls from genealogists who said they were acting on behalf of an American family trying to trace their roots,” Lathrop told the site.

“The intensity of it got me curious and when I probed further I discovered that the people who are searching were connected to the Palin campaign.

"They told me that they were trying to establish some Irish credentials for her in the build up to the campaign, but I have told them that I have no interest in being used as some sort of electoral pawn.”

full article: <http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Sarah-Palins-Irish-cousin-disowns-her-84843802.html>
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 10:54 AM
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1. Disown a cousin. That's a first!
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 04:00 PM
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23. Perhaps Palin is a first cousin.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 12:12 AM
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24. Once removed....
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 10:57 AM
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2. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Hahahahahah - smart cousin.
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mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 10:58 AM
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3. Good for him.
Didn't Rumsfeld's German relatives do the same after Iraq?
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 11:15 AM
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5. Yesm you are correct! And
I think he was disowned by them.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 11:01 AM
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4. Misread that
thought it said "Irish cousin drowns her" To which I thought - whatever.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 12:12 PM
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6. Any theories as to why this was sooooooooooo desirable to sp? Aside from him being a minister and
all. . . ? I mean ministers here in the states are dime a dozen for folks like sp. So this one is related, so what?

Do you think the attraction to this guy has anything to do with the fact that it is Ireland?
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 12:17 PM
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7. Only thing that I can think of is that her campaign hopes that an Irish link would garner votes
among Irish-Americans who are predominantly Roman Catholic but that would assume that they wouldn't not that he's a Protestant.
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 10:52 AM
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43. There are still lots of Protestant Irish
Probably way more here in the US than in Ireland. Of course, most consider themselves "Scots-Irish," an ethnic identity they invented for themselves to distinguish themselves from the Catholic Irish who came in later waves of immigration.
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 11:29 AM
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45. True and it's the massive waves of Roman Catholic Irish who forged the Irish-American identity.
Scotch Irish aren't the ones behind the St. Paddy's traditions here, for example. The early (Protestant)Irish immigrants left little imprint of Irish identity in the U.S. It's the waves of 19th century (and early 20th century) RC Irish who did that. Their descendants also know that certain types of Protestant faiths view them with fear because of their Church of Rome connection.

Anyway, it's just my theory on why the Palin camp would care. Who knows what is really behind it.
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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 12:39 PM
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12. Patrice, this is something I only see in Americans
-this desire to identify with the home countries of ancestors. You hardly ever see a Brit saying, 'I'm Dutch-British' or an Aussie saying they are a Greek-Australian. It seems to be peculiar to some Americans to identify themselves as 'Italian-American', 'Irish-Spanish-Hebridean-American'.

Don't know why it happens.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 01:04 PM
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13. Meaning is a problem for U.S. As a prominent ex-pat said "We are the hollow men . . . "
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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 01:54 PM
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17. Not necessarily a problem
More an idiosyncrasy :)
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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 03:23 AM
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28. That and most Americans have a stronger link to their ancestral country than in England.
Which is a very old country. Many English can trace their line back to the 1100s. It's not the same here in the States.

My family came over less than 100 years ago.

It's easier to play up your Irish roots when you're a generation or two removed from being Irish. In England, there are plenty if citizens who probably are the sons/daughters of parents who were born in another country, but not nearly at the level it is here. Most English probably have family who have been living in that country for 100s of years.
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 08:53 AM
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35. Also because this is a country where almost EVERYONE
comes from somewhere else. Folks long for an autochthonous connection.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 01:53 PM
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16. To counter Biden and contrast with Obama's heritage.
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 11:33 AM
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46. Obama has his share of Irish ancestors.
Falmouth Kearney of Ireland was the Great GrandFather of Obama's GrandFather.

"It seems that on March 20, 1850, a 19-year-old farm hand named Falmouth Kearney landed in New York Harbor from famine-wracked Ireland.

He went to Ohio to live with relatives, married and had eight children. Three of his daughters married brothers in the Dunham family and one became Obama's great-great-grandmother, according to Ancestry.com.

Obama's Kansas-bred mother, Ann Dunham, married a Kenyan student named Barack Obama in Hawaii in the 1950s."


Also, Sarah Palin and Barack Obama have common ancetors.

John Smith and Susannah Hinckley are ancestors of Sarah Heath Palin as well as Barack Obama.

There isn't that much room for contrast.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 01:55 PM
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18. Foreign Affairs cred?
Palin style!
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 02:03 PM
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20. I think she's thinking "Reagan"
Remember how he played up his Irish heritage? Especially when Tip O'Neill was Speaker of the House?

It was like the two giants of American politics at that time had Irish ancestry.

So Palin reveals an Irish past and everyone thinks "Reeeeaaaaggggaaaannnn"

Maybe her staff thought it might help her in traditional Irish strongholds, i.e., Chicago, New York, Boston, and the like...
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 03:31 PM
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54. I'm not sure how much Irish heritage will help her in those strongholds...
seeing as how not only are they traditional Irish strongholds, they're also traditionally Democratic strongholds.

I DO predict, though, that at some point in 2011 Sarah will invent a recipe for Moose Haggis.
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Marr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 10:29 AM
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39. You can see England from parts of Ireland.
So she's not only an expert on Russia, but Britain as well.
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 12:17 PM
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8. Someone buy that man a pint.
:beer:
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Fast Dude Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 12:33 PM
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9. "In the past he has even attended anti-American rallies"
Piss on him, he hates us all.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 12:37 PM
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10. Palin: "I have an Iranish cousin?!!"
"Does he pal around with that Lepri Khan dude?"
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 12:39 PM
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11. He's from Ireanistan.
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 01:10 PM
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14. I heard they all practice the Gaelic lifestyle
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 01:37 PM
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15. The jokes write themselves, don't they? :)
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Atticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 05:32 PM
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51. I thought he was from Ireanistan. Where the hell is "Gael"? nt
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canetoad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 01:56 PM
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19. Lol
New keyboard thanks!
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XOKCowboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 02:08 PM
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21. Sounds like a real Christian...
as I understand how Christ lived. Nice to see that he's true to his faith.
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 03:40 PM
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22. Don't I remember something from her campaign...
...about having 'been to Ireland', and it turned out that was a refueling or connecting flight stop on the way to somewhere else?

:wtf:

This was when they were trying to tout and puff all of her 'foreign experience' (besides being able to see Russia from her house, I mean).


Consensus was that she may have been able to visit the duty-free gift shop, but that didn't really count as having 'been to Ireland'...:eyes:
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FightingBobsghost Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 12:16 AM
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27. Palin and Ireland
Didin't you know, Sarah Palin can see Ireland from her garage.
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Contrary1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 12:14 AM
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25. I'll drink to that, Simon.
You betcha!
:toast:
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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 12:15 AM
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26. I can see Ireland from my front porch, donchaknow.....
Well, not really. But I had to throw that in.
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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 05:20 AM
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29. This story gets my day off to a good start
:toast:
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Douglas Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 05:36 AM
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30. I've always liked the Irish
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 06:11 AM
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31. May she melt
Off of the earth
like snow
off of a ditch

Irish curse
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Caretha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 08:38 AM
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34. May she slide
down the banister of life,
and get splinters on her arse

Irish proverb

Okay, I kinda changed that one a bit, but it works for me. :)
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Jester Messiah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 07:36 AM
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32. And here I was thinking her family tree didn't branch.
Guess you learn something new every day!
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irishman Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 08:20 AM
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33. It's a spoof story
See http://palinquestions.blogspot.com/2010/02/sarah-palins-irish-cousin-disowns-her.html
No such cleric, no such parish. Originated on newsfromireland.com which has issued spoof stories before.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 09:27 AM
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36. What wonderful news ... that Palin may actually run in 2012.
Spectacular.
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Mad_Dem_X Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 09:28 AM
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37. Good for him!
"I have told them that I have no interest in being used as some sort of electoral pawn.” :thumbsup:

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Jefferson23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 10:21 AM
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Ha ha, talk about a no spin zone for Palin..very funny! Cheers to the Rev.
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 10:21 AM
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38. Sarah: our little shamrock poking
it's head out of the snows of Alaska.
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scubadude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 10:32 AM
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40. The link is dead. Didn't take long for them to scrub this one off the books...
scuba
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 10:43 AM
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42. This is cribbed from a different site
The original story seems to still be up:

http://newsfromireland.com/2010/02/palins-only-paddy-is-a-peace-loving-pastor-who-hates-hunting/

Seems to be a bit more comprehensive as well.
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scubadude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 11:00 AM
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44. This new link is also now offline... Don't know if it's coincidence or what...
Edited on Sun Feb-21-10 11:03 AM by scubadude
scuba
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irishman Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 11:45 AM
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48. Niall O'Dowd of The Irish Central has commented that Irish Central was taken in by a spoof.
and newsfromireland.com - the original source of the story specialises in spoofs and parodies. There is no such parish in Ireland and so such cleric in the Church of Ireland. Sorry to rain on the parade!
See http://palinquestions.blogspot.com/2010/02/sarah-palins-irish-cousin-disowns-her.html for further confirmation.
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 05:01 PM
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49. The "anti-American rallies" may have been a tip-off
Most anti-American rallies abroad exist only in the minds of right-wing Americans, who suffer from a bizarre persecution complex.
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 10:39 AM
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41. "Anti-American rallies"
I am calling bullshit on that one. You see a lot of folks in Ireland and around the world protesting American (especially under the Republicans) policies, but not America in itself.
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Kyril Enko Donating Member (204 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 11:35 AM
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47. Heavens to Begorrah!
:rofl:
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-21-10 05:26 PM
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50. The article isn't at the link anymore.
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irishman Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 10:52 AM
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52. That's becasue it is a spoof story - Lathrop does not exist - see this link for confimration
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 04:48 PM
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55. Thanks for the update. But, is she related to Michael Palin of Monty Python?


Let's hope not! Pretty sure he would disown her.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-22-10 03:06 PM
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53. Good on him!
:thumbsup:
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