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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 12:35 PM
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The more works of historical scholarship I read
the more I find myself thinking :wtf:

That is all.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 12:46 PM
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1. and we are supposed to know what you are talking about?
:wtf: back at ya
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 12:58 PM
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5. My apologies...it was just sort of an existential thing.
I just felt a need to express it. :D
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 12:48 PM
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2. WTF in any particular direction? Or just a general swamp of WTFing? n/t
Edited on Wed Feb-24-10 12:48 PM by JHB
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 12:56 PM
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4. Pretty much a general swamp of WTFing...
puntuated by the occasional "What in the HELL were they thinking?!"
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 12:59 PM
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6. So you are disagreeing with what is written or amazed that
the information is not more widely known? Or are you disagreeing with the conclusions they draw? Really, we aren't mind readers and this is supposed to be a discussion board. :shrug:
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 01:09 PM
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8. You are right; it's a discussion board.
I just happened to feel a need to express some sudden frustration.

Perhaps there should be a forum for "random outbursts of inexplicable frustration."

That's about all I got right now.

My apologies.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 12:53 PM
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3. I think I know what you mean.
The more you read, the more stuff you uncover that nobody ever talks about or acknowledges. I'm preparing my students for their own WTF moments this semester...
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Adsos Letter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 01:04 PM
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7. It's my last semester of graduate studies...
the more deeply I read, the more I realize how much a lack of historical consciousness hobbles our citizenry.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 02:54 PM
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9. Some of them "know" history...
they just think people like Zinn and Chomsky are liars. I'm related to people like this, who think I'm an elitist because I know big words and think our history is whitewashed.
Being a Latin American historian is really depressing. Not quite as depression as being an historian of Africa...but, close.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 02:55 PM
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10. I believe Howard Zinn agreed with you.
:)
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 02:58 PM
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11. Welcome aboard.
However, sometimes reading history works requires, I find, some flights of fancy. If you leave the politics and policy-heavy style behind for a while and delve into some more narrative history of everyday events, it can be an interesting escape.

Otherwise, yes. There's no shortage of WTF? moments.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 03:02 PM
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12. When I was in 7th grade
I read "Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee" by Dee Brown. Not scholarship exactly but it was a great starting place to start questioning the force fed, piece meal history that we usually get. Ever since then, I've felt that same WTF many times.

I do think we're encouraged to ignore history even more than we're encouraged to warp it.
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