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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:05 PM Original message |
So what happens if we DO attack Iran? |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
1. The immediate problem is Iraq going up like a tinderbox |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. The Madhi Army... |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:55 AM Response to Reply #6 |
57. It's a complicated issue and hard to simply summarize. |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
2. I don't have an answer. Is the UN talking about intervening any attack? If not, they should be. |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:15 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. That's an interesting point... |
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coalition_unwilling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 04:05 PM Response to Reply #10 |
109. Excuse me, but SH allowed UN inspectors in to his country where |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 08:57 AM Response to Reply #10 |
117. Iraq did meet the UN demands, and in fact the UN said HELL NO to war. |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. How many spare divisions does the UN have? |
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Raydawg1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:35 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. They wouldn't be much help. |
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Kagemusha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:58 AM Response to Reply #15 |
58. Well because you bothered to ask... |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
28. The UN doesn't have the troops, the will or the know-how... |
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rman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 02:02 AM Response to Reply #2 |
62. When's the last time the UN Security Council did something without US approval, |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
3. Isn't Russia deeply involved with Iran? |
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helderheid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Russia and China, right? |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. Russia and Chindia will take a pass |
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Gloria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:07 AM Response to Reply #19 |
45. Just a few days ago, a Russian dep. minister said that |
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itsmesgd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
5. Are we going to do something about it over here, or does an outside country |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
107. * is fanatical and we need to invoke the 25th amendment |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
7. Russia and China too |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Thus the new chinese anti satellite missile. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. China made a deal with Iran for oil |
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lvx35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:27 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Yes, its perfectly clear. |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:34 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Too bad for them, it only will last until 2031. I thought the Chinese were smart. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:40 PM Response to Reply #20 |
29. China needs infrastructure |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:29 AM Response to Reply #29 |
49. As You're aware, the roads and concrete are needed for the new automobile economy. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:54 AM Response to Reply #49 |
56. I'm no fan of the chinese government |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 01:00 AM Response to Reply #56 |
59. In other words, reach critical mass, drive US broke so oil costs $10 and only costs 1 yuan |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 01:08 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. I see the potential for |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 06:48 AM Response to Reply #56 |
68. Mee too. China is definately postioning itself to be the next |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 10:13 AM Response to Reply #56 |
75. I do enough translating of Japanese articles about Asian politics and |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 10:31 AM Response to Reply #75 |
80. So, who replaces the US as the world's "consumer" nation ? |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 10:33 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. I think it's more the case that U.S. will sink into irrelevance as a |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 10:56 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Congressional Research Service Report shows graphic detail |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 10:04 PM Response to Reply #81 |
114. Any country with 10,000+ nukes will never be irrelevant.. |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #49 |
103. Where in the sam hill did you hear that? |
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Raydawg1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:44 PM Response to Reply #20 |
34. Interesting article. The mainstream media does not cover things like this enough. |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:36 PM Response to Reply #17 |
24. Are you saying that China agreed to... |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:41 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. No, i'm saying |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
37. And... as an addded bonus |
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tbyg52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 06:36 AM Response to Reply #37 |
66. Hey, Edweird! |
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4bucksagallon (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
8. One positive, they will have to bring back the draft if they plan on putting troops on the ground... |
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Just-plain-Kathy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:20 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. I think if we go into Iran, there will be a draft. |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:46 PM Response to Reply #14 |
35. Profiteers prefer mercs, anyway. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:31 AM Response to Reply #35 |
51. David Petraeus advocated the use of unlawful combatants (mercs) in his confirmation hearing |
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TahitiNut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:35 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Appalling. |
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On the Road (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 11:29 AM Response to Reply #51 |
91. Is Using Mercenaries Illegal? |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 10:07 AM Response to Reply #14 |
72. I don't think the American people would stand for a draft. |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 10:06 PM Response to Reply #72 |
115. What do you foresee the American People doing if the draft IS reinstated? |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 08:52 AM Response to Reply #115 |
116. I think even the Bushbots would be contacting their Congresspeople, |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 11:02 AM Response to Reply #14 |
84. Another reason Junior delayed the draft... |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #14 |
102. he would rather play with bombs instead and nuclear arsenal. |
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Raydawg1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:46 PM Response to Reply #8 |
36. positive? The draft means that I'll probably have to go fight. |
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Just-plain-Kathy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:56 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. God, I hope not. |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #40 |
100. My son, my only child, is a teenager, |
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Just-plain-Kathy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 02:26 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. I have nephews who are old enough... |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. If there is a draft (which I don't think will happen) I don't think it will be just males. nt |
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Gloria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
9. Iranian leader stressing Iran-Russia ties...... |
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pocoloco (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:19 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Surely they are smarter than trying to sell |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
12. The end of empire. Iran can retaliate directly and china and Russia would pile on. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:48 PM Response to Reply #12 |
39. #4 is the killer |
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SanCristobal (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:01 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. France tried that back in the 70's. |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:06 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. France did not own the kind of share of US debt that Chimpy and the |
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SanCristobal (303 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:29 AM Response to Reply #43 |
50. It's a different circumstance, but shows how we might act. |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:35 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. The war between state capitalism in China and Multinational Corporatism HQ'd in the US |
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ConsAreLiars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:03 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Keep reading. |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 03:01 PM Response to Reply #39 |
106. oh for sure, China can just say to * pay up boy. |
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hogwyld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 01:12 PM Response to Reply #12 |
97. The American dream is finished |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
16. Depends on how we attack... |
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CrazyOrangeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:35 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. I think he and dickweed are crazy enuf . . . |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:38 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. My understanding is that the nuclear bunker busters aren't that reliable... |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 10:21 AM Response to Reply #26 |
78. That just makes it more likely that if they play that card... |
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confludemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 11:33 AM Response to Reply #16 |
93. It'll be a disaster beyond any previous level for the United States |
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Raydawg1234 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
23. Without nukes: regional conflict, gas shortage, draft |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
25. Zero sum game for all...Remember 'A Beautiful Mind' and cooperation among all ? n/t |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:42 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. I remember "War Games".... |
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Just-plain-Kathy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
27. If I were Iran...and getting bombed anyway... |
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cynatnite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:44 PM Response to Reply #27 |
33. Iran's best and most viable option without getting nuked... |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:09 AM Response to Reply #33 |
46. You don't need to to that to decapitate the US occupation in Iraq. |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 11:07 AM Response to Reply #46 |
85. Sounds like we're on the track... |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 10:03 AM Response to Reply #33 |
71. If everyone would just exhibit some patience...the world's oil runs out 2031 |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
32. SUV's will be on sale |
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FrenchieCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-29-07 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
38. We've got to make sure that our politicians know the answers to the "what ifs" |
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Phrogman (940 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
44. See all those service stations, imagine "no gas today" signs out in front. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:10 AM Response to Original message |
47. Horses, buggies and tack will suddenly become very expensive. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
48. Bad, Bad Things. Once We let the atomic genie out of its bottle there's no turning back |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
54. Its not "WE" attacking Iran... |
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Terri S (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #54 |
111. what the hell are you talking about??!! |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 09:59 PM Response to Reply #111 |
113. What the fuck are you talking about?!!!!! |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
55. depends on how well they stage causus belli. even many in military will wonder about another 9/11 |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 01:03 AM Response to Original message |
60. I'm not an authority on the Middeast |
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frogcycle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 02:09 AM Response to Original message |
63. the fecal matter flies in to the rotating impeller blades |
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pinniped (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 02:12 AM Response to Original message |
64. The news turds are really cranking it up tonight. |
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Pachamama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 04:05 AM Response to Original message |
65. I see dead people.... |
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Kahuna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 06:44 AM Response to Original message |
67. Russia and China will not take kindly to an attack. Some way, some |
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IronScorpio5 (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 06:50 AM Response to Original message |
69. Probably wont involve troops..... |
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ama (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 04:20 PM Response to Reply #69 |
110. remember the Iran/Iraq war scenario |
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Just-plain-Kathy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 08:22 AM Response to Original message |
70. Kick...n/t |
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RedStateShame (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
73. Hola, Belize!!! |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 10:22 AM Response to Reply #73 |
79. Actually, it's more like "Hello there, Belize!" |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
74. Economic sanctions on the U.S.? |
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EVDebs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 10:20 AM Response to Reply #74 |
77. US-GDP/World GDP |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
76. The Democrats will pass another non-binding resolution two months later. |
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spinbaby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
82. My guess |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
86. We're totally f***ed. |
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Bushwick Bill (605 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
87. War games show sobering results. |
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lectrobyte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
88. Iran has 140,000 American hostages. Even American Conservative |
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Norquist Nemesis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
89. The first thing that will happen is Iraq will side with Iran. n/t |
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roamer65 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
90. World War III. |
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lectrobyte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
92. An oil shock even worse than the 1970s? |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
94. just make sure that your gas tank is as full as possible at all times |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
95. What will happen |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
96. We attack Iran, Iran and Syria attack Israel. |
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HappyWeasel (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 01:55 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. The aftermath could just look like- |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
99. Well, we make Israel happy by doing their |
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blues90 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
105. Good question , real good question |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
108. China will call in US debts in response. |
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Disturbed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-30-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #108 |
112. It will not happen. |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
118. Slaughter. Including tens of thousands of US troops. |
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koopie57 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-31-07 09:16 AM Response to Original message |
119. I think that is it time for impeachment |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-02-07 09:50 PM Response to Reply #119 |
120. kick |
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