ACTION ALERT: If asked to donate to Obama, Edwards or HRC campaign - Refuse for Single Payer!

Good news, folks! I organized a small e-mail campaign to stop people form donating to Obama if his people call for a contribution and loudly state that the reason was his pro-coal policies, like turning coal into vehicle fuel.

Well today, the coal stuff, and only the coal text, was scrubbed from the Obama for President Web site!

Let's try this again. This time on health care --

We can get rid of health care insurance once and for all. Health care should not be for profit, and what we have has degraded into JUNK INSURANCE. We need to organize ourselves and fight back.

Here is my easy plan, should take just a couple of months.

Enough people stating that they support Edwards, or Obama or HRC when that phone call comes -- and they would be happy to donate -- except for one thing. They must come out in favor of single-payer health care. NOW. OR no more donations.

You can always contribute to them on the side if you like but all their phone fund-raisers will come back to the campaign in shock and say look at all these turn-downs on single-payer.

I kept the Obama caller on the line complaining vociferously about how I love Obama and want to give him money but I cannot condone turning coal into gasoline. She was in deep shock.

What say you?

ARE WE BLOGGERS OR ARE WE MICE??

Know it might sound crazy. All I'm saying is turn down the direct calls for contributions and insist LOUDLY for single-payer. That message will get back loud and clear. And if you are near a campaign event -- make a sign that you are sick of health care for profit, and ask questions of all politicians why they are not for single-payer. What contributions do they receive from health insurance or pharmas?

The Democratic debate on health care was a travesty (except for Dennis of course). Even Edwards wants to let the market decide if insurance stays or not. I say FUCK INSURANCE. GET RID OF IT. OBAMA WANTS TO LOWER YOUR INSURANCE BILL $1000 A YEAR. FUCK THAT! SINGLE-PAYER OR NOTHING.

If you are not convinced of that little fact I hope fellow DUers reply with their insurance horror stories, of how profit superseded good care. That should convince you.

AND FUCK POLITICS AND CAUTIOUS HILLARYS AND CAUTIOUS OBAMAS CAUTIOUS EDWARDS AND LOBBYISTS. THIS IS THE GOLDEN MOMENT TO ATTACK ON THIS ISSUE AND WE NEED TO PRESSURE THE DEMS ON THIS RIGHT NOW. WE CAN WIN THIS -- AS EVERYONE HAS BEEN PREYED UPON BY JUNK INSURANCE.

RIGHT NOW. LET'S SHAKE THE DEM PRIMARY RACE UP NOW!!

Recommend if you are a true progressive blogger, do not if you are a timid mouse ("oh Rudy will call it socialized medicine and we might lose in '08" -- I call BS).

Oh and vote Democratic in '08 -- unless of course Zell gets the nod.

raise a stink.

60 days later we could have much better policy, at least from Edwards and Obama. I have no hopr for Hillary...

Anyone who wants to protect the insurance giants and not the people isn't worth a dime.

Medicare was supposed to have been expanded into universal coverage decades ago, but Congress has always been afraid to alienate the insurance industry.

....by forcing everyone to have it by law. They say the prices will go down that way, by making it mandatory but that hasn't happened with my automobile and homeowners insurance. Once they know you're forced to have it then the prices increase and very high at that.

It's true in my market too. When Georgia passed the law requiring all drivers to prove they had auto liability insurance my rates jacked up fast - about 20% - and I've never had an accident, ever.

I'm sick and tired of gritting my teeth when I hear some of these pro-war, pro-corporate capitulations. When Kerry ran and supported the war, I was in a terrible predicament. Of course, I feared and detested Bush and wanted Kerry to win, but instead of doing pro-Kerry phone banking, I devoted all my efforts to GOTV. Why? Because there was no way in hell that I was going to be able to defend his position on the war. The same goes for HRC with the war, Obama with coal, and all three of them with health care. Take a look around you. The rest of the developed world gets it. Single-payer is the only way to go.

Your post is a sobering reminder with practical advice.

THESE FOLKS ARE PUBLIC SERVANTS!

THEY WORK FOR US, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!

IT worked with Obama on the coal apparently, altho the environmentalists were banging on him hard on it.

I had fun shocking the shit out of the Obama volunteer, poor lady...

He was against te war before it started.

In terms of how to deal with it on an going forward basis - he would have concentrated on diplomacy and hoped to have some troops out in 2005. Amazing that you were active and appear not to have read or seen Kerry's Iraq speech at NYU - which he labelled the major speech on the war. (Do you think Dean would have been more aggressively ended the war? - He wasn't in 2004 and through 2005 and 2006 Kerry was more aggressive in demanding an end to the war.

What I take fromn this is:
- If you want to help, at least read the candidates website or get informed on key issues

- Push the campaigns to provide better information to help you inform yourself and others.

You gonna deny that?

Did he include a codicil that said "Sorry. Just kidding"?

I don't think so.

"Don't let the fact that Kerry voted for the IWR fool you. He's really against it."

Yeah, right...

I'll say this much for Kerry and Edwards. At least they both admit they made a mistake. Some candidates aren't even willing to do that.

and I also know the reasons he gave when he voted and the list of thisgs Bush et al promised and I know that in that speech he promised to speak out if Bush broke those promises. Kerry did speak out against going to war before it started. That speech spoke of the war not being a last resort - which would mean to most Christians it was not a just war. That phrase meant something.

You are conflating the IWR with being in favor of going to war.

THERE IS NONE!

At least in the civilized world. Tell someone from Europe or Canada that you'd like to change jobs but you can't afford to lose your health insurance and the person will look at you as though you're from Mars.

According to Harvard's Consumer Bankruptcy Project, approximately half of the Americans interviewed who had filed for personal bankruptcy did so because of illness or medical bills. And get this: Three quarters of those people who filed for bankruptcy for medical reasons actually had health insurance!

The system is broken, folks. Don't let our candidates pussy-foot around this issue. And don't suggest that we have to take it easy on our candidates for fear of weakening them for the general election. That's a loser's strategy. One of the purposes of primary season -- and it hasn't even begun -- is to choose a candidate who best reflects our views. The candidate who emerges will be wiser and stronger for it.

We need to speak, and they need to listen.

That's our job. And that's theirs.

He is a potential candidate in good standing who supports single payer.

I don't think Kucinich has a chance. Wesley Clark does, however, at least better than Kucinich. (I of course think that Gore has the best shot, if he takes it.)

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:nuke: WE'RE BLOGGERS, DAMNIT!!! :nuke:

make a loud fuss over how you won't give him one thin dime because you want single payer. Then hang up on them like you're mad, go over to the computer and donate the full allowable $2300.

The phone manager will still get a report that somebody would not contribute because of single payer and that will add up until Obama finally gives up and goes for single-payer

Best of both worlds!

Good issue,
if we get nothing else, everybody should have not for profit healthcare!

We're bloggers. WE're driving the agenda.

GO DWW!

I like the way you think. Win, Win.

would.

but even he pits Medicare against for-profit insurance, which will be unrelenting in its attack against "government medicine".

Edwards says "let the market take its course". Well, why should we?

The deck will still be stacked against single-payer. The whole idea behind single-payer is to have a SINGLE-PAYER.

Edwards will be the first to endorse HR 676 I predict. Then Obama.

But only if we put the pressure on NOW.

He changed on coal

His plan leads to jacked up insurance rates... so says my husband who SELLS INSURANCE. I think my husband can read the fine print and know what Edwards' plan leads to given that he's been in the industry for seven years. Heck, he'd get out of it, happily, if we went to a single-payer system. He'd rather have something good for our family and the country that keep a job. He can sell something else - and has in the past.

Hubby said Edwards' plan was the worst piece of shit he'd read since Hillary's plan, which tried to do virtually the same thing: make private, for-profit insurance even MORE powerful than it already is.

Sorry - not buying it.

I tried to be polite, even though I didn't like the fact that they had somehow gotten ahold of my private cell phone number, and tell them that I was expecting a baby and didn't have any money.

No - that wasn't good enough for them. They just went on and on. Finally, I said, "Look. I'm one of those disappearing middle class folks no one cares about. I need every cent I earn to donate to my KIDS," and hung up.

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