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nikto (414 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 10:38 PM Original message |
Is this TRUE, or NOT? Is 55% of the total US budget going to MILITARY?? |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
1. Depends on how you define 'military.' |
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Foo Fighter (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 11:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
38. "Welfare program for arms dealers." |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 10:40 PM Response to Original message |
2. link with more links |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
3. Its an exaggeration |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 10:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Ohhh... Wikipedia... An authoritative source... |
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harkadog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 11:18 PM Response to Reply #12 |
27. I'm sure you will be posting a link to disprove it. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 06:05 PM Response to Reply #27 |
55. I did. See "TRUE. The pie chart, the story and their sources..." below. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 09:26 PM Response to Reply #27 |
56. Helllooooooo???... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 11:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
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nikto (414 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 10:53 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. If that is true, |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 01:08 AM Response to Reply #13 |
46. It's the usual smoke & mirrors routine and how you choose count things. |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 02:16 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. +1000 |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 02:12 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Winner! |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 12:02 AM Response to Reply #3 |
39. only if you're counting everything funded by dedicated fica taxes as part of the general budget. |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 12:15 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. But that ignores the size of the federal budget |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 01:53 AM Response to Reply #42 |
47. i understand that. take out ss & mc spending & calculate military spending % without them. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 10:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. What's the source for those figures? |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 10:48 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. "Mostly war resistors??" As in "resistance is futile?" |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
5. The Wikipedia pie chart shows it at around 19 percent. I was surpised and encouraged by that. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 10:49 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. 19% of *everything* including self-funding programs financed through fica taxes. |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 10:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Should be easy to get a defense tax passed then, shouldn't it? Or force a reduction. |
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Imajika (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 11:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
23. Yeah, but all that self funding money... |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 12:09 AM Response to Reply #23 |
41. you're confusing revenues with expenses. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
6. TRUE. The pie chart, the story and their sources... |
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nikto (414 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 10:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. What is the "X" part? |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 11:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. That's the portion that True Majority proposes trimming from the war budget... |
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Festivito (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 04:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
54. That Pie doesn't include interest on debt. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
7. No. And, no, we don't have 700 bases worldwide either. nt |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 10:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Sources please? |
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harkadog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 11:22 PM Response to Reply #7 |
28. We have 737 world wide |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 12:44 AM Response to Reply #28 |
45. That's the claim of an article on "teh internet" which does not provide a source. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 02:07 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. source: |
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NYC_SKP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 09:33 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Thanks. So, a considerable number of these were established in the past 9 years. |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
16. 700+ billion a year for defense. Defense = offense = anything the military wants. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 11:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. lol. sure, the war resisters' league is based in north korea. uh-huh. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 11:07 PM Response to Reply #20 |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 11:13 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Here lies Fred. |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
19. Maybe discretionary spending. Not total spending. n/t |
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Wilms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
21. Make sure the WHOLE thing is tallied. |
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TreasonousBastard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
24. You're kinda right, but you'll never convince your friend because... |
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BalancedGoat (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 11:13 PM Response to Original message |
25. It's true for discretionary spending only. |
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booley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
29. in 2008 , 623 billion for defense out of 2.5 trillion |
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midnight armadillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 11:46 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. it's more than that |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 12:05 AM Response to Reply #29 |
40. 2.5 trillion includes social security & medicare spending. they're not funded through income tax. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
30. Globally we make up nearly half of all defense spending: |
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elias49 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
31. The US spends a shitload - |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 11:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. If only we restrained spending to a little more than the Russians. |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
32. how about a cookie chart? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 11:37 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. I love that graph. lol |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
37. Yes, it's true |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
43. K & R |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 12:37 AM Response to Original message |
44. No. One thing is military is about 20% of federal budget however we have state and local govt. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 02:14 AM Response to Reply #44 |
49. military is indeed about 40-50% of federal general spending. |
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ClassWarrior (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. Sources please? |
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