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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 07:09 AM Original message |
Why Liberals Must Distance Themselves from Policies That Aren't Liberal. |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 07:26 AM Response to Original message |
1. #1. Abandon Free Trade Agreements With Third World Governments |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 07:31 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Many of those "free trade" agreements have hollowed out our economy. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 08:49 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Wrong. European countries have more "free trade" than we do. Their economies are not "hollowed out". |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 09:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. But the "free" trade agreements made it easier for businesses to dump American workers |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 09:37 AM Response to Reply #6 |
15. I disagree in that the same companies that ship our jobs out here |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
3. End the so-called 'war' on drugs and terror |
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Union Yes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 07:42 AM Response to Original message |
4. corRECtamundo! nt |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 08:36 AM Response to Original message |
5. What exactly are "third way Democrats"? |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 08:53 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. its probuably the majority of people who vote democrat, i wonder how many votes the party would get |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 09:00 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. So the third way Democrats are the real base of the party? |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 09:14 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. no proble, they may not be the party workers and donation givers but they have the most important |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 09:31 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Do they really have the most votes? |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 09:34 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. i think its pretty obvious that the hated moderate democrats have more votes than the liberal base |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 10:01 AM Response to Reply #14 |
21. Look who wins primaries? |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 10:30 AM Response to Reply #21 |
28. and who do you think would get the votes, do you really believe that the people who voted in blue |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 06:18 PM Response to Reply #28 |
37. The local parties nominate only Blue Dogs |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 06:31 PM Response to Reply #37 |
40. i think the party understands it better than you, they get blue dogs for a reason |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 06:48 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Considering that an awful lot of people don't like either the Republicans |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 09:40 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. People vote for them because they have NO CHOICE in the matter |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 09:43 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. and you really think that the same moderate democrats are going to vote for someone who is way left |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 09:57 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. How often has it been tried? |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 10:01 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. yup i would say that the people you mentioned would be considered far left to most of america |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 06:26 PM Response to Reply #22 |
38. What does "far left " MEAN? |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 06:34 PM Response to Reply #38 |
41. okay where you are is the center and anybody way over there is far left |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 06:44 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. If you think Webb is "left of center," that says more about you than about Webb |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 10:19 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Depends on how you define far left. |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 10:22 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. yup it depends on what the electorate define as far left, lets be honest |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 10:32 AM Response to Reply #24 |
29. People can be convinced of just about anything here. |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 10:35 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. and the honest truth is that neither you nor i define what is the left and right |
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DisgustedInMN (956 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 06:23 AM Response to Reply #30 |
46. Utter nonsense. |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 12:59 PM Response to Reply #24 |
34. No it doesn't. Just because the definition of what is center has been |
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vadawg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. no but your definition is going to be different than someone else |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 01:09 AM Response to Reply #24 |
45. It would sort of depend on the platform he/she ran on. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 09:17 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. You are absolutely right |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 09:59 AM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Having seen a bit of politics from the inside in my life |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 11:18 AM Response to Reply #8 |
31. The third way Democrats are the ones whose interest lies in the money. |
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Edweird (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 09:13 AM Response to Reply #5 |
9. DLC'ers. Republicans that call themselves Democrats. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 09:25 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. It's what the DLC sometimes call themselves |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 09:38 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Really? They call themselves that? |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 11:27 AM Response to Reply #16 |
32. It's on their website: |
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jaxx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 11:35 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Thanks, I really had never heard it before. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
25. "When the third way wins, it is usually followed by Republican victories..." |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
26. Recommend |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
27. I don't vote for Republicans, even if they have (D) behind their names. K&R |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
36. Are "third way Dems" the ones who sold the nation to corporations? |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
39. Agree 100%. HCR is a case in point |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-28-10 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
44. K&R, but the 'enter' key does not bite. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-01-10 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
48. In my view, moderates are often like the spouse who knows the other is abusing a child... |
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