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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:10 PM
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President Obama adopts Republican ideas for yet another newly revised health care bill
Edited on Tue Mar-02-10 03:11 PM by Better Believe It
-The original newspaper caption says that President Obama "explores" Republican ideas but the article itself along with President Obama's new release indicates he is adopting and including Republican health care proposals in his new healthcare plan which he will reveal tomorrow.-


Obama explores Republican ideas for revised health care bill
USA Today
March 2, 2010

President Obama says he is exploring four Republican proposals to add to his updated health care plan, according to a letter he sent today to congressional leaders.

The GOP ideas -- discussed at last week's bipartisan health care summit -- include expanding the use of fraud investigators disguised as patients to uncover waste and abuse in federal programs such as Medicaid, a proposal made by Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla. Obama also says he's open to bigger pilot programs on possible changes to the rules governing medical malpractice lawsuits, a longtime GOP issue.

Obama also wrote that he is open to the idea of higher Medicaid reimbursements for doctors, as proposed by Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa. And the president pledged to look at expanded use of health savings accounts, as discussed last week by Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo. Barrasso and Coburn were among the medical doctor-lawmakers who participated in the summit.

These ideas will be added to the $950 billion plan that Obama proposed last week. Obama will discuss an updated plan Wednesday at the White House

Obama noted that his plan deletes proposals that Republicans have attacked in recent weeks. They include exempting the state of Nebraska from Medicaid costs, and maintaining Medicare Advantage benefits from residents of Florida.

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2010/03/obama-to-include-republican-ideas-in-revamped-health-care-bill/1

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The Full Text of President Obama's Letter:

March 2, 2010

Dear Speaker Pelosi, Senator Reid, Senator McConnell, and Representative Boehner:

Thank you again for the time, energy, and preparation you invested in last Thursday’s bipartisan meeting on health insurance reform. I have always believed that our legislative process works best when both sides can discuss our differences and common goals openly and honestly, and I’m very pleased that our meeting at Blair House offered the American people and their elected representatives a rare opportunity to explore different health reform proposals in extraordinary depth.

The meeting was a good opportunity to move past the usual rhetoric and sound-bites that have come to characterize this debate and identify areas on which we agree and disagree. And one point on which everyone expressed agreement was that the cost of health care is a large and growing problem that, left untended, threatens families, businesses and the solvency of our government itself.

I also left convinced that the Republican and Democratic approaches to health care have more in common than most people think.

For example, we agree on the need to reform our insurance markets. We agree on the idea of allowing small businesses and individuals who lack insurance to join together to increase their purchasing power so they can enjoy greater choices and lower prices. And we agree on the dire need to wring out waste, fraud and abuse and get control of skyrocketing health care costs.

But there were also important areas of disagreement. There was a fundamental disagreement about what role the oversight of the health insurance industry should play in reform. I believe we must insist on some common-sense rules of the road to hold insurance companies accountable for the decisions they make to raise premiums and deny coverage. I don’t believe we can afford to leave life-and-death decisions about health care for America’s families to the discretion of insurance company executives alone.

No matter how we move forward, there are at least four policy priorities identified by Republican Members at the meeting that I am exploring. I said throughout this process that I’d continue to draw on the best ideas from both parties, and I’m open to these proposals in that spirit:

Although the proposal I released last week included a comprehensive set of initiatives to combat fraud, waste, and abuse, Senator Coburn had an interesting suggestion that we engage medical professionals to conduct random undercover investigations of health care providers that receive reimbursements from Medicare, Medicaid, and other Federal programs.

My proposal also included a provision from the Senate health reform bill that authorizes funding to states for demonstrations of alternatives to resolving medical malpractice disputes, including health courts. Last Thursday, we discussed the provision in the bills cosponsored by Senators Coburn and Burr and Representatives Ryan and Nunes (S. 1099) that provides a similar program of grants to states for demonstration projects. Senator Enzi offered a similar proposal in a health insurance reform bill he sponsored in the last Congress. As we discussed, my Administration is already moving forward in funding demonstration projects through the Department of Health and Human Services, and Secretary Sebelius will be awarding $23 million for these grants in the near future. However, in order to advance our shared interest in incentivizing states to explore what works in this arena, I am open to including an appropriation of $50 million in my proposal for additional grants. Currently there is only an authorization, which does not guarantee that the grants will be funded.

At the meeting, Senator Grassley raised a concern, shared by many Democrats, that Medicaid reimbursements to doctors are inadequate in many states, and that if Medicaid is expanded to cover more people, we should consider increasing doctor reimbursement. I’m open to exploring ways to address this issue in a fiscally responsible manner.

Senator Barrasso raised a suggestion that we expand Health Savings Accounts (HSAs). I know many Republicans believe that HSAs, when used in conjunction with high-deductible health plans, are a good vehicle to encourage more cost-consciousness in consumers’ use of health care services. I believe that high-deductible health plans could be offered in the exchange under my proposal, and I’m open to including language to ensure that is clear. This could help to encourage more people to take advantage of HSAs.

There are provisions that were added to the legislation that shouldn’t have been. That’s why my proposal does not include the Medicare Advantage provision, mentioned by Senator McCain at the meeting, which provided transitional extra benefits for Florida and other states. My proposal eliminates those payments, gradually reducing Medicare Advantage payments across the country relative to fee-for service Medicare in an equitable fashion (page 8). My proposal rewards high-quality and high-performing plans.

In addition, my proposal eliminates the Nebraska FMAP provision, replacing it with additional federal financing to all states for the expansion of Medicaid.

Admittedly, there are areas on which Republicans and Democrats don’t agree. While we all believe that reform must be built around our existing private health insurance system, I believe that we must hold the insurance industry to clear rules, so they can’t arbitrarily raise rates or reduce or eliminate coverage. That must be a part of any serious reform to make it work for the many Americans who have insurance coverage today, as well as those who don’t.

I also believe that piecemeal reform is not the best way to effectively reduce premiums, end the exclusion of people with pre-existing conditions or offer Americans the security of knowing that they will never lose coverage, even if they lose or change jobs.

My ideas have been informed by discussions with Republicans and Democrats, doctors and nurses, health care experts, and everyday Americans – not just last Thursday, but over the course of a yearlong dialogue. Both parties agree that the health care status quo is unsustainable. And both should agree that it’s just not an option to walk away from the millions of American families and business owners counting on reform.

After decades of trying, we’re closer than we’ve ever been to making health insurance reform a reality. I look forward to working with you to complete what would be a truly historic achievement.

Sincerely,

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2010/03/02/president-obama-follows-thursdays-bipartisan-meeting-health-reform-0
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:14 PM
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1. Obama EXPLORES Republican ideas for revised health care bill
is the headline you quote. Your subject line: President Obama adopts Republican ideas ...". Why do I even bother....

Except that, interesting information. Here is another link http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35656271/ns/politics-health_care_reform/
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:19 PM
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3. Your link says"Obama to incorporate GOP ideas in health plan"
Edited on Tue Mar-02-10 03:20 PM by saracat
Adopts, Inincorporates, what is the difference? Either way, he has resumed pandering. AND after the HCR Summit which was presumed to prove the lack of GOP cooperation.
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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:24 PM
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9. Did you see what he wants to incorporate?
Obama said he was open to these four GOP ideas:

Conducting undercover investigations of Medicare and Medicaid providers to search for waste, fraud and abuse, an idea put forth by Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Okla., at least week's summit.

Experimenting with specialized health courts as an alternative to jury trials in medical malpractice cases to cut down on defensive medicine. That idea has been promoted both by Democrats and Republicans, including Coburn and Sen. Mike Enzi, R-Wyo., who attended the summit.

The approach calls for an expert judge — not a jury — to hear the evidence and make a final determination in cases where a patient has suffered harm. Trial lawyers are strongly opposed to the concept.

Months ago, Obama budgeted $23 million for states to experiment with alternatives to malpractice litigation, but at the time he stopped short of endorsing health courts. The president now says he wants to more than double the budget for state experiments to $50 million.

Obama also agreed that health savings accounts would be offered in new markets his plan sets up for individuals and small business to purchase coverage. Sen. John Barrasso, R-Wyo., brought up the idea at the summit.


Do you see anything wrong with these ideas IN CONJUNCTION to what is already there (that's the difference between "incorporate" and "adopts" I think)? Because I don't. To take just the health savings accounts as an example. By itself, this most definitely does not spell HCR. But can they useful to quite a few people? I think so.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:33 PM
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11. Yes. I find the medical malpractice health courts a frightening step on the way to
Edited on Tue Mar-02-10 03:34 PM by saracat
'tort reform' which will be used as a basis to further diminish the individuals right to suit. the corporate spying is just disgusting and another avenue for the government intrusion on citizens. The equivalent of undercover cameras in the workplace? It makes the assumption that all who work for those agencies are cheats.Nice. As far as the rest of the Bill, it already sucks and most know it.This actually does what seemed impossible made it worse, and all for the benefit of those who do not support it anyway. Why aren't there any Democratic provisions added? Hmm?
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 04:52 PM
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24. There are a lot of probable
unnecessary tests done on a daily basis because doctors are so fearful of a malpractice suit.

I think there must be a happy medium that will help lower costs and still protect those that are truly victims of malpractice.

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AdHocSolver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 02:44 AM
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30. Doctors and hospitals do a lot of unnecessary tests just to increase revenue and profit.
To deal with a fear of malpractice suits, hospitals and clinics have staff lawyers as well as one or more law firms on retainer.

Having worked in hospitals, I was always amazed at how few lawsuits were ever brought against hospitals. If patients and their families had more knowledge of the situation, there would certainly be more complaints, and probably more lawsuits started.

Hospitals have huge amounts of money to spend on legal defense, and few patients have the money to start litigation. Finding medical experts to testify for a plaintiff is difficult and expensive.

So-called "tort reform" is merely another technique designed to make it more difficult for victims of malpractice to get redress.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 09:25 AM
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32. Please provide some data to back up your assertion.

A "lot" could mean 10%, 50%, 1% or perhaps even as low as .01% of tests are "unnecessary" tests.

I've never had an "unnecessary" test in my life and if doctors want to perform tests in order to make sure their diagnose is correct
and avoid malpractice that's fine with me.
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sabbat hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 04:33 PM
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33. For example
I notice that when ever I go to get my cholesterol level checked by my doctor (every 3 months due to issues with it), she also has a PSA test done, and a number of other tests done (I have to pay 10% of the cost of lab test, insurance pays 90%).

Now do I really need to get my PSA level tested, given my age and low risk criteria? Probably not, but she is doing it to cover her ass, just in case I am a rare case of young age/criteria prostate issues.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 08:44 PM
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34. It sounds like you have a good doctor concerned about your health, Keep her.

It appears you haven't asked your doctor why she thinks PSA tests are important.

I don't know why you haven't asked her.

Perhaps she's also covering your ass just in case you have early stage cancer. Have you looked at it that way?

I always expect and get full information from my physician on what he is doing.

You should always ask questions from your primary care doctor and specialists.

All the good ones will be happy to answer all of your questions.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:38 PM
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14. I see PLENTY wrong with this mess
*alternative courts with NO jury* means virtually an automatic win for the medical community. How would the judges be picked? Let me guess -- a political appointment? No potential future campaign contributions from the AMA and Big Pharma *there* is there?

Health savings accounts? Really? Working class poor do not have the extra money to *sock away* for that broken arm or cancerous tumor down the road. And considering how our BANKS have been having such a field day with upfront bailouts - I for one do NOT think we should be adding a round three backdoor bailout for the banking industry.

ALL of these adoptions are nothing more than legacy polishing on the part of Obama. It does virtually nothing for the middle class, except muddy the waters further.

He needs to put down his shiny little legacy and start dealing with reality.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:21 PM
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6. You should read Obama's letter & the article than you will know what you're writing about

Why won't you read President Obama's letter and the article?

Obama is clearly adopting four Republican proposals, not merely considering them.

I hope you will act a little more responsibly before you post.

Do you also write movie reviews on films you haven't seen?
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 05:30 PM
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25. too bad he won't adopt dem proprosals like ... you know. SIGH!
I am so tired ... I wonder if its covered.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:16 PM
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2. They have already proved they will not support ANYTHING.
Why are we supporting "Winning by capitulation'. It isn't working and never will.WHY is he making MORE concessions? WHY?
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thereismore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:19 PM
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4. What the hell is he doing. I can't believe it. He's just digging a hole for himself. nt
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:24 PM
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8. Has to help revive the repubs so the system can sustain the 2 party ruse (social control)
... cause as of now they're looking DOA, and the corporate owners of the US realize they need to keep the populace divided to maintain our phony rep democracy.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 08:47 PM
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35. People don't get it.
:shrug:
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:39 PM
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16. nah -- he's legacy polishing
the 21st century version of Nero fiddling while Rome was burning. :sarcasm:
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:21 PM
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5. I guess Obama enjoys smashing his head against the wall at the expense of the US citizens...
:banghand:

Everyone needs a hobby, fine, but please he should be exploring his hobby of sucking up to the repukes on his own dime, not ours.
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inna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:36 PM
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12. interesting analogy.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:23 PM
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7. Very smart move
Edited on Tue Mar-02-10 03:23 PM by ProSense
The fact is that these are concessions that spotlight Republican hypocrisy. The second item is merely an expansion of something that was already in the bill, actually funding it at a higher amount. The Medicaid reimbursement to doctors is something a lot of Democrats agree with.

Whatever the President can do to undercut the GOP's bullshit obstruction is a good thing.

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Inuca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:26 PM
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10. Exactly
Sorry, have to run now, I wish I could elaborate :-)
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:37 PM
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13. Yeah, yeah. Yay team. Winning by capitualtion.It is all so very smart.
I thought the HCR Summit did more than enough to show up the GOP. This is just pandering.And it isn't going to help.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:39 PM
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15. Clue:
Reconciliation doesn't require GOP votes. In fact, it doesn't require every Democratic vote.

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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:40 PM
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17. I know. Even less reason to pander.
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tkmorris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:45 PM
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20. I understand what you are saying, but help me out here
How does it help? Anyone with an ounce of objectivity already sees the hypocrisy of the Republicans on this issue. They couldn't be more obvious. People just don't care.

Is the plan to incorporate these ideas and then when all the Repubs vote against it anyway to say "See? They are just being obstructionists". Well, so what? Anyone who cares already knows this and there is no public outcry to force it through anyway. The Repubs do NOT want a meaningful healthcare reform bill and will vote against it no matter what. The public at large knows this and quite a few seem perfectly OK with that. The media will never spotlight Repub hypocrisy, so we aren't going to influence anyone from that direction. In the end what is accomplished?
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:40 PM
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18. Why doesn't he just buy a big hose to water his plan down with? Or, a nice white flag?
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 04:10 PM
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23. Why doesn't he just come out and admit he's a repuke?
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 11:38 PM
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29. It shall be done!
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:41 PM
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19. Oooo, I bet the Republicans will give him a big pat on the back for his bi-partisanship too!!!11!
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 03:54 PM
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22. President Obama Approves of Republican Suggestions for Reform
Edited on Tue Mar-02-10 03:55 PM by Better Believe It


President Obama Approves of Republican Suggestions for Reform
Financial World News Update by Equities Magazine
March 2, 2010

President Barack Obama opened up health care legislation to four Republican proposals in the hopes of adding a bipartisan edge that would help the legislation out of Congressional gridlock.

The ideas accepted by the President include sending investigators posing as patients into medical facilities to unearth fraud and identify waste, widening the use of health savings accounts, increasing payments to Medicaid providers, and improving medical malpractice reform programs.

The ideas were introduced last week at a bipartisan healthcare summit and addressed by President Obama in a letter addressed to Congressional leaders. In addition to the proposals listed, he also requested for the elimination of a special deal for Medicare Advantage beneficiaries in Florida. The clause garnered Republican criticism at the summit, particularly from former Presidential Candidate and Arizona Senator, John McCain. The changes were made as an alternative to the overhaul suggested by the GOP.

Whether this attitude shift and the proposed amendments in the legislation will help gain Republican votes in Congress remains to be seen.

http://www.transworldnews.com/NewsStory.aspx?id=238184&cat=5




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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 06:43 PM
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27. Candidate Obama...come out...come out...whever you are!
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 06:55 PM
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28. Kick..
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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 08:49 PM
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36. What I want to know-
Where do I apply to spy on doctors? Do I get a gun? Is there a special outfit and handshake?
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