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noise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 12:27 PM
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Why are we talking about 9/11 prosecutions in 2010?
Doesn't this fact alone suggest the Bush administration approach was absurd? They made up all sorts of BS legal theory and nobody really knows how to fix it. Furthermore, the criminal prosecution route doesn't magically erase years of disgraceful conduct on the part of the Bush administration. The notion of using "clean teams" to attain evidence untainted by torture is bizarre. I guess we are supposed to believe that nobody in the Bush administration realized the damage their policies would do to the prospects of prosecuting detainees. Now the "Keep America Safe" Campaign is suggesting the real problem is that lawyers decided to represent detainees.

Right wing pundits love to accuse the left of elitism. The detainee torture program is the ultimate form of elitism. The program was based on the idea that the POTUS had the power to order the torture and indefinite detention of suspected terrorists. The legal justification for such a sick program should never be attributed to "bad judgment." The people who implemented such a program knew full well that it was criminal.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 12:29 PM
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1. The current POTUS claims the power to indefinite detention
as well.
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noise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 12:39 PM
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4. It's an inexcusable policy for any President n/t
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 12:31 PM
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2. Not only what you said, but these prosecutions would probably lead straight back
to the torture of these individuals that we are prosecuting. Where would that all lead to? No doubt this is why the WH wants to keep these prosecutions within the confines of the Military.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 12:36 PM
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3. Several reasons
For starters the bu$h regime held them to use as a fear element to put in front of the American people whenever necessary to achieve their desires.

The fact that they used torture makes it very difficult to prosecute them without the danger of evidence being thrown out due to the means used to retrieve it.

The current Administration had grand plans of righting a wrong and bringing these people to justice to which the right wing managed an effective public propaganda mission to raise enough objections that they had to back off.

Then you get back to the torture element and what can be used against them in court.

It is one more fucked up mess that bu$h and his good buddy DICK left us with.


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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 12:47 PM
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5. Not only that
But testimony about how these individuals were tortured may make it into the record.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-06-10 12:51 PM
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6. Hoping for death from old age to answer the question...
and prevent our making any seriously difficult decsions..
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