Markos Moulitsas calls Dennis Kucinich "little prick"

MARKOS (3-9-2010): "Dennis Kucinich has always been a little prick, and that hasn't changed.
He's someone who deserves a real primary."

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/3/9/844403/-Midday-open-thread

In opposing health reform bills without a strong public option or a single-payer system.

for Democrats.

What an idiot.

Another egotistical idealist, unwilling to compromise no matter who suffers as a result.

they refused to compromise on the benefits to the industry and he's refusing to compromise on the benefits for people. I have to confess, I see a difference, here.

I thought saying "no" to your party until they compromise and give you something was the very height of 'serious', 'adult' politics. Apparently that's only the case if you're right of center, or essentially an insurance industry lobbyist. How odd.

@sshole!

Good god, people still blame Nader for Gore/Lieberman losing in 2000, it's ridiculous.

As ridiculous as blaming Kucinich for millions of uninsured.

are striving to bring us the Nadir of health care reform.

:applause:

That was a really good pun.

but what the heck.

I still can't believe that idea got out of the trial balloon phase, let alone make it this far. I would've thought people would've stoned any sell-out politician who even attempted to pass that one off as a solution. I suppose it speaks to the power of the insurance lobbies.

Dennis isn't. I actually have more sympathy with Dennis on this. If there is a public option, medicare for all, it will come because the people want it, not because the white house fights for it.

I understand both sides of the debate; but a lot of those people who will die if the health bill doesn't pass will not be helped by the bill. It won't cover everyone, and that just means that there will be people who fall through the cracks. A mandate is not a particularly fine idea either, except for the insurance companies.

They are going to continue to bleed America white unless they have stronger sanctions imposed on them than the senate bill manages.

But he is right.

Just more trolling for a fight. Yawn

F Markos.

but if you've ever seen him grill an insurance CEO, you know he means business.

;)

but then I wondered what kind of sauce he might use.

:-)


Seriously, I would not like to be in their shoes. He is a relentless questioner.
Plenty of examples at Youtube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HrdFFCnYtbk

I have watched this so many times that I cannot count. It is a thing of beauty to see George Galloway fry Norm Coleman and the U.S. Senate to a crisp. :)

:hi:

:hi: How are you?:hug:

:patriot:

What do I win?

By the way, Kos, better to BE a little prick with standards than to have one nonetheless, shitwit.

Edit, spelling.

:rofl:

i enjoyed that!

jk :rofl:

been reading Markos since he started blogging and I've always liked how he can be both his own person and at the same time ally strategically when he thinks it's worthwhile.

what's interesting to me is that both these guys believe in the same type of health care system, but Kos thinks it's worth voting for this in the interim.

but if i knew for sure a candidate's positions would be 100% implemented, DK would be closest to mine.

that they keep flinging at us: they give us war, oligarchy, purges, bankers gambling with our lives and homes (and then we bail them out), and enslavement to insurers. then when we complain it's "exaggerated" and we have to buckle down, grow up, not cut off our nose to spite our face, and vote for 4 more years of Reagan-Bush feces. the worse a candidate, the more howlingly angry they are, because they've poured all their hopes and desires into this empty suit: UCLA is covered with stencils of Obama endorsing a walkout over ever-rising fees. newsflash: he'd rather hire Russian boyars to ride by and whip you than help scummy commoners like you. and the crappier a bill (HCR), the more angry people get about anyone who dares spurn this gift from the gods.

Oh, wait.. you never were.

Pathetic.

have picked a side.

He embarrasses himself and everyone on the left every time he talks in public for more than 30 seconds.

If Markos is a Cointel'r

his blog is self-imploding as his members leave in droves for the Huffington Post and other real blogs, so he has the need to verbally shit on everyone more liberal or intelligent than himself.

I'm just waiting for him to announce that he has now become and Ayn Rand fan, as the peasants have failed to realize his greatness.

you know the Democratic principles we all used to share here?

It's a hell of a lot more than can be said for the blue-dogs in Congress. Not to mention Obama. That's why we're in the shit hole we are in right now - too much bending over and caving to repukes like Snowe, Grassley, Lieberman, Nelson, Lincoln, and all the rest.

If we don't start standing up for what is right, we are doomed to be under the thumbs of these wishy-washy, namby-pamby "leaders" forever.

Why the fuck did we even have an election? For crying out loud, WE WON. It's time we started acting like it.
When they win, and they will, then THEY get to lead. That's how it works.

:eyes:

Kos is a self appointed blowhard.

We complain that Dems are spineless, and when one faces-down corporatism we kneecap him.

:thumbsup:

Dude, you are dead wrong on this one. DK should be praised for telling the Truth about what this bill does and does not.

Sorry if you can't handle that. :(

god bless him for not bending over to the health insurance lobbyists.

he deserves to be treated like a Republican.

I have a couple guesses.

was allowed. Plus that site is a pain in the ass to read. :thumbsdown:

Why in the hell anyone goes there I'll never understand especially when the owner sounds and acts like a god damn rethug!

why don't you run against him markos? it would be a pleasure watching your smug ass smacked down a few pegs as you had your ASS handed to you. DK isn't going to be primaried.

so there

Who is grandstanding?

Kos saving all his vitriol for one of the most progressive members of Congress, while sparing his tongue re Stupak & his cabal of idiots and all the other conserv-a-dems standing in the way of health insurance reform, says a thing or two about where he really stands.

Yeah, I trust him.

speaks.

appears here in a lovely pineapple yellow Teflon Mackintosh for Spring with matching bumber for those remaining days with inclement weather. :)

This includes people who's nicknames begin with K.

I have little or no use for Kucinich myself, but I think that Kos is more than a little grandiose too. He, and Keith Olberman seem to have think they were elected spokespeople for Democrats.

I voted with my feet on that proposition, not that either of them seem prepared to question their own authority as a result of any grounds.

I also have very little use for some of Kos's front pagers, particularly those who represent that they are "fair and balanced" and those who want to represent their tenure as interns and Nobel Prize winning authority.

Some of them are "Glenn Beck's" of the left, replete with bathetic selective attention (or possibly inattention) to very serious issues.

The science, in particular, on that website is often just this side of creationist and I have personally seen stuff that is appalling.

I have come to see some of them as fundementally dangerous people.

Other than those minor points, disregard for science, inflated self aggrandizement, lack of nuanced thinking, etc, I agree with Kos.

to get other people on board. I mean surely, if these clowns are willing to bend over backwards to get Republican or "Centrist" support... they should be willing to negotiate with their own left wing as well... right?

No...?

on Countdown last nite I deleted the bookmarks lol. no reason to visit a ratfuckers website.