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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 05:25 AM
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People, Dennis Kucinich has no primary opponent and since it
has now far beyond the filing deadline, he will have no primary opponent.

He is my congress person. I was a political ally of his back in my day and I will always vote for him because his constituent services are the best of anyone anywhere.

Sure he grandstands and tilts at windmills on occasion but the Bottom line here on the west side of Cleveland, Dennis is here to stay.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 05:29 AM
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1. And he represents me too
all this distance away. He's one of the few who stands up and questions authority and does what's right. Like trying to impeach Cheney when Pelosi said it was off the table and Obama refused to order investigations.

ad infinitum
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 05:36 AM
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2. I've admired him ever since I heard his "Prayer for America" . . .
What other politician made anywhere near as eloquent and impassioned a plea for this land so early in the post-September 11 madness? . . .


Published on Tuesday, February 26, 2002 by Common Dreams

A Prayer for America
by US Rep Dennis Kucinich

The following speech was given on February 17, 2002 in Los Angeles, California at an event sponsored by the Southern California Americans for Democratic Action.

I offer these brief remarks today as a prayer for our country, with love of democracy, as a celebration of our country. With love for our country. With hope for our country. With a belief that the light of freedom cannot be extinguished as long as it is inside of us. With a belief that freedom rings resoundingly in a democracy each time we speak freely. With the understanding that freedom stirs the human heart and fear stills it. With the belief that a free people cannot walk in fear and faith at the same time.

With the understanding that there is a deeper truth expressed in the unity of the United States. That implicit in the union of our country is the union of all people. That all people are essentially one. That the world is interconnected not only on the material level of economics, trade, communication, and transportation, but innerconnected through human consciousness, through the human heart, through the heart of the world, through the simply expressed impulse and yearning to be and to breathe free.

I offer this prayer for America.

Let us pray that our nation will remember that the unfolding of the promise of democracy in our nation paralleled the striving for civil rights. That is why we must challenge the rationale of the Patriot Act. We must ask why should America put aside guarantees of constitutional justice?

How can we justify in effect canceling the First Amendment and the right of free speech, the right to peaceably assemble?

How can we justify in effect canceling the Fourth Amendment, probable cause, the prohibitions against unreasonable search and seizure?

How can we justify in effect canceling the Fifth Amendment, nullifying due process, and allowing for indefinite incarceration without a trial?

How can we justify in effect canceling the Sixth Amendment, the right to prompt and public trial?

How can we justify in effect canceling the Eighth Amendment which protects against cruel and unusual punishment?

We cannot justify widespread wiretaps and internet surveillance without judicial supervision, let alone with it.

We cannot justify secret searches without a warrant.

We cannot justify giving the Attorney General the ability to designate domestic terror groups.

We cannot justify giving the FBI total access to any type of data which may exist in any system anywhere such as medical records and financial records.

We cannot justify giving the CIA the ability to target people in this country for intelligence surveillance.

We cannot justify a government which takes from the people our right to privacy and then assumes for its own operations a right to total secrecy.

The Attorney General recently covered up a statue of Lady Justice showing her bosom as if to underscore there is no danger of justice exposing herself at this time, before this administration.

Let us pray that our nation's leaders will not be overcome with fear. Because today there is great fear in our great Capitol. And this must be understood before we can ask about the shortcomings of Congress in the current environment.

The great fear began when we had to evacuate the Capitol on September 11.

It continued when we had to leave the Capitol again when a bomb scare occurred as members were pressing the CIA during a secret briefing.

It continued when we abandoned Washington when anthrax, possibly from a government lab, arrived in the mail.

It continued when the Attorney General declared a nationwide terror alert and then the Administration brought the destructive Patriot Bill to the floor of the House.

It continued in the release of the bin Laden tapes at the same time the President was announcing the withdrawal from the ABM treaty.

It remains present in the cordoning off of the Capitol.

It is present in the camouflaged armed national guardsmen who greet members of Congress each day we enter the Capitol campus.

It is present in the labyrinth of concrete barriers through which we must pass each time we go to vote.

The trappings of a state of siege trap us in a state of fear, ill-equipped to deal with the Patriot Games, the Mind Games, the War Games of an unelected President and his unelected Vice President.

Let us pray that our country will stop this war. "To promote the common defense" is one of the formational principles of America.

Our Congress gave the President the ability to respond to the tragedy of September 11. We licensed a response to those who helped bring the terror of September 11th. But we the people and our elected representatives must reserve the right to measure the response, to proportion the response, to challenge the response, and to correct the response.

Because we did not authorize the invasion of Iraq.

We did not authorize the invasion of Iran.

We did not authorize the invasion of North Korea.

We did not authorize the bombing of civilians in Afghanistan.

We did not authorize permanent detainees in Guantanamo Bay.

We did not authorize the withdrawal from the Geneva Convention.

We did not authorize military tribunals suspending due process and habeas corpus.

We did not authorize assassination squads.

We did not authorize the resurrection of COINTELPRO.

We did not authorize the repeal of the Bill of Rights.

We did not authorize the revocation of the Constitution.

We did not authorize national identity cards.

We did not authorize the eye of Big Brother to peer from cameras throughout our cities.

We did not authorize an eye for an eye.

Nor did we ask that the blood of innocent people, who perished on September 11, be avenged with the blood of innocent villagers in Afghanistan.

We did not authorize the administration to wage war anytime, anywhere,anyhow it pleases.

We did not authorize war without end.

We did not authorize a permanent war economy.

Yet we are upon the threshold of a permanent war economy. The President has requested a $45.6 billion increase in military spending. All defense-related programs will cost close to $400 billion.

Consider that the Department of Defense has never passed an independent audit.

Consider that the Inspector General has notified Congress that the Pentagon cannot properly account for $1.2 trillion in transactions.

Consider that in recent years the Dept. of Defense could not match $22 billion worth of expenditures to the items it purchased, wrote off, as lost, billions of dollars worth of in-transit inventory and stored nearly $30 billion worth of spare parts it did not need.

Yet the defense budget grows with more money for weapons systems to fight a cold war which ended, weapon systems in search of new enemies to create new wars. This has nothing to do with fighting terror.

This has everything to do with fueling a military industrial machine with the treasure of our nation, risking the future of our nation, risking democracy itself with the militarization of thought which follows the militarization of the budget.

Let us pray for our children. Our children deserve a world without end. Not a war without end. Our children deserve a world free of the terror of hunger, free of the terror of poor health care, free of the terror of homelessness, free of the terror of ignorance, free of the terror of hopelessness, free of the terror of policies which are committed to a world view which is not appropriate for the survival of a free people, not appropriate for the survival of democratic values, not appropriate for the survival of our nation, and not appropriate for the survival of the world.

Let us pray that we have the courage and the will as a people and as a nation to shore ourselves up, to reclaim from the ruins of September 11th our democratic traditions.

Let us declare our love for democracy. Let us declare our intent for peace.

Let us work to make nonviolence an organizing principle in our own society.

Let us recommit ourselves to the slow and painstaking work of statecraft, which sees peace, not war as being inevitable.

Let us work for a world where someday war becomes archaic.

That is the vision which the proposal to create a Department of Peace envisions. Forty-three members of Congress are now cosponsoring the legislation.

Let us work for a world where nuclear disarmament is an imperative. That is why we must begin by insisting on the commitments of the ABM treaty. That is why we must be steadfast for nonproliferation.

Let us work for a world where America can lead the day in banning weapons of mass destruction not only from our land and sea and sky but from outer space itself. That is the vision of HR 3616: A universe free of fear. Where we can look up at God's creation in the stars and imagine infinite wisdom, infinite peace, infinite possibilities, not infinite war, because we are taught that the kingdom will come on earth as it is in heaven.

Let us pray that we have the courage to replace the images of death which haunt us, the layers of images of September 11th, faded into images of patriotism, spliced into images of military mobilization, jump-cut into images of our secular celebrations of the World Series, New Year's Eve, the Superbowl, the Olympics, the strobic flashes which touch our deepest fears, let us replace those images with the work of human relations, reaching out to people, helping our own citizens here at home, lifting the plight of the poor everywhere.

That is the America which has the ability to rally the support of the world.

That is the America which stands not in pursuit of an axis of evil, but which is itself at the axis of hope and faith and peace and freedom. America, America. God shed grace on thee. Crown thy good, America.

Not with weapons of mass destruction. Not with invocations of an axis of evil. Not through breaking international treaties. Not through establishing America as king of a unipolar world. Crown thy good America. America, America. Let us pray for our country. Let us love our country. Let us defend our country not only from the threats without but from the threats within.

Crown thy good, America. Crown thy good with brotherhood, and sisterhood. And crown thy good with compassion and restraint and forbearance and a commitment to peace, to democracy, to economic justice here at home and throughout the world.

Crown thy good, America. Crown thy good America. Crown thy good.

Thank you.
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druidity33 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 07:03 AM
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7. i've always loved that speech...
but the "crown thy good" repetition feels too stagey or something. I wish the coda of that speech was more effective, though i don't know which words i would've used...

:shrug:


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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 05:39 AM
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3. constituent services and how responsive they are, say a lot about
a member of congress.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 06:14 AM
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4. Dennis is a hero
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DrDan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 06:52 AM
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5. he has my vote . . . . well, he would if I live a bit closer
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 07:02 AM
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6. it is amusing how suggestions of "primary-ing" blue dog dems is considered disloyal
but its ok to suggest the same with Kucinich.


amusing it is. (not addressing this to the OP, just the last two days)
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 07:40 AM
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10. Ain't That The Fucking Truth (nt)
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 07:38 AM
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8. I'm glad you like him as your Rep. "Grandstanding" is an honest assessment
that few of his supporters would ever be willing to make.
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 03:24 AM
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21. I think most would admit it, if pushed.
I'll take a grandstander over a politician who is constantly rolling over to appease the right and moneyed interests, though.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 07:40 AM
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9. Well put.
:thumbsup: :hi:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:16 AM
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11. k*r Isn't this something
The congressman most in favor of the people and the one politician who is always intellectually honest gets attacked by a blogger who doesn't even know the primary deadline.

KOS looks like a goof ball on this one. He's outed himself and will now pay the price in even more lost readership.

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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:19 AM
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12. +1 nt
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:22 AM
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13. Well, then you'll really like this;)
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:26 AM
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15. I do! Thanks! nt
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:25 AM
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14. As it should be. People should keep in who they want.
I love my rep, Chris Murphy. Some people have the worst conservative idiots as their Reps. At least Dennis is not one of them, right?
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:38 AM
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16. Sounds right. Now, can we get some drinks over here?
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:42 AM
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17. I am in California but I have contributed to Dennis's presidential campaigns
and have to his Ohio congressional campaigns and I will continue to do so as will others across the country who love Dennis. No corporate machine will take him down in your district in the future.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:46 AM
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18. I too am in California, and I too have supported him...
And I will continue to do so.

WCGreen knows him personally, and has talked to me about DK. I consider that information most important.



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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:49 AM
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19. I also know people who know him and Elizabeth personally and
I met both of them once a wonderful experience. No one can trash them to me and get away with it.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 03:20 AM
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20. Kos is an idiot who was just grandstanding. The filing
date for a primary opponent was in February. 'We will primary him if he doesn't cave'. I'm sure Dennis had a good laugh at that. But then, Kos has provided amusement, and that's about all he provides, for a long time as he flips and flops depending on which way the wind is blowing. Not a reliable source for truth in politics, never was.

Don't worry, kos has alienated so many people over the years with his anti-liberal rants, that Dennis would have more to worry about if kos had endorsed him, that is if anyone would even notice. No one outside of a few blogs even knows who he is. So, relax, Dennis will be re-elected and I'm sure he's going to get a lot of donations as a result of kos's disgraceful attack and accusation that Kucinich will be responsible for the deaths of thousands of Americans for doing the job he was elected to do. That was despicable.
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