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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 07:11 PM
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I Am Angry


(Image: Jared Rodriguez / t r u t h o u t; Adapted: HeyThereSpaceman., unforth, D Sharon Pruitt)

I Am Angry
By John Cory
t r u t h o u t | Op-Ed

Tuesday 09 March 2010

I am angry.

I'm tired of pundits and know-nothing, media gasbags. I'm tired of snarky "inside politics" programming. I am sick of the bigotry and hatred of "birthers" and faux patriotic cranks and their GOP puppet masters. And I'm really pissed at the Democratic Party that confuses having a plate of limp noodles with having a spine.

I'm going to vomit if I hear the word "bipartisanship" one more time.

It was bipartisanship that gave us this activist, conservative Supreme Court, a Supreme Court that says money is free speech and corporations are persons except when real people try to hold them accountable for their greed and poisonous ways.

Bipartisanship gave us the Patriot Act and FISA and illegal wiretaps and two wars and "free speech zones" and "no fly" lists. God bless bipartisan America.

I get nauseated every time the Senate explains how it takes a super majority to do anything for the American people. Tell you what, Senate Bozos, if it takes 60 votes to pass legislation, then it should take 60 percent of the popular vote to get you elected.

When some Tea Party crank says, "I want my country back," I respond, "No madam, you want your country backward."

When a deficit-mongering politician says, "How do we pay for this?," why not ask, "What did you Republicans do with the surplus we Democrats left you?"

When a compassionate conservative says, "Health care reform is socialism," why not answer, "No, sir, it is the moral and American way to care for people"?

Yes, I can hear it now: "You are naïve and simplistic. These are complicated matters and require sophisticated solutions. Democrats are a big tent and strive for balance. But Republicans block our path at every turn. We are thinking and considering new ways to work in harmony with everyone."

Bite me.

The only thing you get with "harmony" is a barbershop quartet.

The rest: http://www.truthout.org/i-am-angry57520
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 07:13 PM
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1. k & R. Fabulous line - that::
Edited on Wed Mar-10-10 07:14 PM by truedelphi

When some Tea Party crank says, "I want my country back," I respond, "No madam, you want your country backward."




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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 06:33 AM
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30. DEMOCRATS + REPUBLICANS = UNITARY CORPORATE PARTY
I sometimes think we Democrats mistake craven greed with spinelessness. It's likely both, but the common denominator is that money has subverted and punk'd We the People.

It gets worse with every passing day.

Objectives
Make elected representatives answer to the electorate.
Remove corporate influence from all levels of public governance

Suggested Goals to Accomplish These Objectives
Publicly fund elections
Eliminate corporate person-hood
Initiate instant runoff voting
Eliminate electoral college
Ban exiting public officials from accepting lobbyist positions
Oversight of the Federal Reserve
Tax reformation
Budget reformation

Citizen Actions to Accomplish These Objectives
Strengthen and expand alternate media
Infiltrate existing party systems to affect changes
Exploit current means to pressure representatives
Prepare, support, and run Liberal/Progressive candidates


Read more: http://thefrankfactorspace.ning.com/notes/The_Plan#ixzz0hroA63PR
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FourScore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 09:36 AM
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36. My favorite:
"Tell you what, Senate Bozos, if it takes 60 votes to pass legislation, then it should take 60 percent of the popular vote to get you elected."

In fact, I think I'm going to make that my tag line.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 04:30 PM
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68. I love that line. And it really should take sixty percent to get these
Edited on Thu Mar-11-10 04:31 PM by truedelphi
Corporate tools in office.

Of course, since the Powers that Be still own the Voting Machinery, it wouldn't be difficult to accomplish.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 07:15 PM
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2. Rec'd-great! nt
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 07:15 PM
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Leave out the "sir" and "madam" nonsense...
...and this article is dead solid freakin' perfect.

But that's just my Quaker soul talking.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 07:15 PM
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3. You're angry, and Obama should hear you...
This is superbly written, and just what I've come to expect.

A proud K&R

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Zomby Woof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:36 AM
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So when Nance Greggs comes back next week praising Obama
Are you going to K&R her thread? :shrug:
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:49 AM
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26. Why shouldn't I?
Edited on Thu Mar-11-10 01:59 AM by CaliforniaPeggy
Obama promotes a mixture of things, some of which I approve, and some of which I don't.

I appreciate your question, BTW.

:hi:


On edit: I wish you'd unblock your PM box to me. I'd like to talk sometime...

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pundaint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:51 AM
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I recommend threads I'd like to read more conversation on, it's not approval of the point, just the
topic for me. What do others do?
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hay rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:41 PM
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55. Depends on the OP.
If I think the subject is interesting or important and if I wholeheartedly agree with the poster or the post gives me important new information: K&R.

If I think the subject merits further discussion: rec.

If I think the post is misguided but it falls in one of my areas of interest- I will post my dissent. Practically speaking, that's a kick.

If I think the post is a regurgitation of multiple rw talking points or is just plain mean-spirited: unrec.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 09:29 AM
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34. FYI, I didn't write this
John Cory did.

:hug:
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prairierose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 10:42 AM
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43. Yes, but thanks for bringing it here Will. I think that it ...
is well written and gets to the point on a variety of important ideas.
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Cant trust em Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 07:15 PM
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4. I am hungry. nt
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 07:26 PM
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5. I am sorta peeved about repetition
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7861236

Anger and intolerance are the enemies of correct understanding.
Mohandas Gandhi

Anger dwells only in the bosom of fools.
Albert Einstein

Anger is a killing thing: it kills the man who angers, for each rage leaves him less than he had been before - it takes something from him.
Louis L'Amour

“Holding on to anger is like grasping a hot coal with the intent of throwing it at someone else; you are the one who gets burned.”
Buddha

oh, and also -






bipartisanship
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 07:54 PM
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10. Hope Has Two Beautiful Daughters
“Hope has two beautiful daughters: their names are anger and courage. Anger that things are the way they are. Courage to make them the way they ought to be.” – Saint Augustine
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:15 AM
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22. "An angry man stirs up strife,
and a furious man abounds in transgression." Proverbs 30: 22

"Now abide faith, hope, love, these three; but the greatest of these is love." 1 Corinthians 13: 13

"Love suffers long and is kind ... does not seek its own, is not provoked, ... bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things."
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 02:49 AM
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28. dueling quotes
We don't appeal often enough to love I agree.

“Anger at injustice is the political expression of love.” MLK

Don't dwell on anger. Harness it, draw power from it if you are able. People who suppress their anger may not just be less healthy but also more likely to die prematurely.

Those who want to suppress anger or wish it away are making us sick.

Suppressing anger of the masses has put us on a fast track to fascism. Despite acknowledging the opposing POV may be well meaning, it is still reinforcing the status quo of injustice in this country. Progressives are going to need to get aggressive. I don't see any other light coming from the Dem Party.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 10:12 AM
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41. Great points! The Christian & religious among us would do well to remember
the only instance of Christ becoming angry that was recorded was at the money changers. I think that could be a lesson.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:37 PM
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53. well there was Matthew 21: 18 as well
a story which always bothered me. An innocent fig tree. Figs weren't even in season, and why not use your powers to do something positive, like make the tree produce some figs?

Of course, when I was once playing hide and seek with my dog I ran around this tree and grabbed a branch to help me make the turn, and the branch snapped off, almost making me fall on my butt in the river. I was so angry I started beating on that unreliable tree. I thought that if I was the son of God, I woulda ripped it up by its roots and thrown it so hard it woulda hit the moon. Now that would be a kick-ass miracle. Plus, cemturies later, astronauts could find the tree on the moon and go "holy crap, that story really happened - there's the tree!"
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:41 PM
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56. That's funny
:hi:
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 05:45 PM
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75. Dang! That one has always bothered me, too! Why take it out on a harmless little tree, Lord?
Money-changers in the temple? No problem! But a fig tree off season? Yikes!
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 07:57 PM
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76. Forgot about that one. New rules: Anger at money changers & fig trees only!
Edited on Thu Mar-11-10 08:00 PM by laughingliberal
Okay, and maybe at Rush. I'm sure he was not mentioned as radio had not been invented, yet.

But, that's all! Anger at money changers, fig trees, and Rush. Only.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:51 PM
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57. The purposeful(?) mistranslations and omissions have really put a sock
in the mouth of a lot of Christians.

Thom Hartmann talks about a couple misinterpreted parables from time to time, turn the other cheek and walk a mile in another's shoes. The church teaches those and others out of the context of their times and when the context is included are possibly outright subversive and more like civil disobedience. I think there is much we haven't got quite right, you know, the prevailing wisdom.
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Truth2Tell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:49 PM
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50. Interesting sub-thread
I've been taking a hard look at my own personal political anger lately, sometimes expressed on DU and sometimes elsewhere. I've begun to conclude that it's not helpful, at least not to me. Recognition of injustice and corruption are essential. An understanding that I need to work for change is essential. I'm not sure that my anger is equally essential. I'm suspecting that it only harms me and makes me a less effective activist and advocate.

I agree that suppressing anger isn't a healthy solution. But feeling it and then allowing it to pass from your being is not only healthy but necessary. I would submit that it's not suppressing anger that puts us on the track to fascism, but rather suppressing understanding. Understanding will naturally lead to anger in most, but it's the understanding - and actions based on that understanding - that will give the people power, not the anger.

Until recently I've held to the view that if you're not pissed, you're not paying attention. But I've moved to the belief that you can pay attention and see the bad in the world, and work to correct it, without carrying around that pain as the negative energy of anger. For me, I've found that when I can instead convert that to compassion I'm healthier and more effective at helping achieve positive change.

Just two-cents worth from a bumbling practitioner of Zen.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:40 PM
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54. I concur with a number of your ideas on this, but not all
I couldn't agree more about understanding but that is all higher level more recent evolution. Appeals to peace, love and understanding are more difficult and not any less important.

I don't see anger as negative energy, but when you refer to it as carrying it around, yes, it does begin to feel like what you are talking about.

Telling people they shouldn't be angry is unproductive and there is scientific evidence it is actually harmful. Not saying you or another in the thread intends or does that btw.

Anyway, I think what you said was well said.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:00 AM
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19. Yeah, what's up with that!?
Edited on Thu Mar-11-10 12:04 AM by Hissyspit
LOL :D

It only got 21 recs when I posted it. I kept shamelessy kicking it, too. Guess it was the weekend. Either some people have lives or DU is wacky (or both).

Actually, hfojvt, I was going to repost it on Monday with a different title - "Madam, You Don't Want Your Country Back, You Want It Backward" - but never got around to it.

Thanks for plug, though.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 12:59 AM
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20. the other option has to do with SOMEBODY always getting lots of Rs
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=7497299&mesg_id=7498741

But I was not fond of this OP. I think we already have too much anger. I also always think it is ironic to wag our finger at them for their 'hatred' while we talk about how angry we are at them.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:14 AM
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21. I would argue hatred and anger are not the same thing.
Will Pitt's posts get featured on the front page automatically. Mine do not (unless admin puts a particular one there, same with everyone else), so that increases their visibility. I thought at the time I posted it that the title was not particularly good, but that there are many good points and lines in the piece, and that the common thread in them was not really anger as the author seems to think. But, truth be told, it went viral (repetition beyond even DU's influence - I saw it get tweeted all over the place and it showed up on Facebook a lot) almost immediately beyond any influence I or even Will has.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 09:43 AM
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37. Wow
Edited on Thu Mar-11-10 10:13 AM by WilliamPitt
Two different links with you being pissy at me. I'm not in either thread. Very strange.

Never saw your Cory post. Wouldn't have posted this if I had.

Feel better now?

Jesus.

*shaking head*

P.S. I did 30 seconds of research and discovered that:

1. I've been here three years longer than you.

2. I have 24,000 more posts than you.

...which leads me to conclude that your angst over the attention I get (compared to you) might have something to do with those two facts.

Again, not my fault.

So.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:10 PM
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51. this may be a good example of the anger
or it might be my fault. There's a fine line between teasing/horsing around and being pissy, and I probably crossed it. Or there is a certain inequality here in that I am sorta fond of you and I might razz you like we are old friends whereas you are thinking "who the hell is this guy?"

The Cory thread was Hissyspit's - not mine. I was bemoaning (sort of) the fact that an OP which I did not like was making its way to the greatest page - AGAIN. I think we already drink too much of the hateraid around here, and one of the consequences of that is that it spills over and we end up lashing at each other. Especially at the heretics who we feel need to be taken to room 101 for their thoughtcrimes of "thinking" like one of THEM. One of the sharks http://journals.democraticunderground.com/hfojvt/122

And after Hissyspit laughed at the fact that his post only got 21 recs even though he kicked and kicked it I just commiserated with him about an obvious reason.

And I don't really have that much angst about your popularity or my own unpopularity, although it would be sorta nice to have at least 1/10 as many friends as I have detractors. But that's certainly not your fault, and I never said it was.

As for the other post, I did put a little bit of effort into that OP and had hoped it might help in Massachusetts, if only a little, and I wryly noted that it was languishing while this thread http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=7497951#7501634
had about 3 times as many Rs.
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 10:51 AM
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45. your words would be well worth a rec- the OP doesn't
imo.

Anger is natural, using it to blame others for everything is just plain stupid.

:hi:
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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 07:27 PM
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6. Heck, yeah!
And hasn't "compassionate conservative" been proven to be an oxymoron?

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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 07:32 PM
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7. "Bite me." My sentiments 100%! Great post! nt
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 07:34 PM
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8. !
:applause::applause::applause::applause::applause:
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Little Star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 07:39 PM
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9. Who ever this John Cory is he wrote this beautifully!
Thanks for sharing Will.
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Mithreal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 07:55 PM
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11. +1
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undeterred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 08:14 PM
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12. How is bipartisanship responsible for the Court's latest decision?
That makes no sense at all.
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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 11:02 PM
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15. Probably alluding to Dems rolling over for SCOTUS nominee votes
IOW, giving in to Repugs when people like Alito and Roberts were nominated. And now we get ultra-conservative SCOTUS decisions from said nominees.

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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 10:15 AM
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42. There you go! nt
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 08:16 PM
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13. Send it to the White House...
...they're the ones who need to hear it.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 09:44 PM
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14. Will Pitt angry. Will Pitt SMASH.
Smash on, Will Pitt.
:thumbsup:
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 11:53 PM
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16. k & R
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 11:56 PM
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17. .
Edited on Wed Mar-10-10 11:58 PM by Hissyspit
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Moochy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-10-10 11:58 PM
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18. K&R
:kick:
Great Stuff!

If you are not angry at all this bipartisanshit, you are not paying attention!
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:32 AM
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23. kr
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:36 AM
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24. What the hell is a 'compassionate conservative'? An oxymoron.
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Alias Dictus Tyrant Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:38 AM
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25. Jean-Baptiste Emanuel Zorg?
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:51 AM
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27. K&R.
Excellent.
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Sherman A1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 03:42 AM
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29. +1, Agreed & Well Said!
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DailyGrind51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 06:48 AM
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31. When Hartmann asks us to "find common ground" with teabaggers,
I am fuming in my car, thinking of German Jews trying to find common ground with Stormtroopers or Freedomriders dialogging with the KKK!
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MissDeeds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 08:04 AM
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32. Excellent
Anyone who wants bipartisanship with these thugs isn't on our side. No exceptions.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 09:13 AM
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33. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 09:32 AM
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35. Tax payer money for wars and occupation is acceptable, but for health care...not so much
Corporate welfare...no problem, we can do that. Public welfare, well that's just socialism. Huge military budgets are a necessity to keep you safe, but health care to help keep you alive...ummm, well there is just not enough congressional support for that, sorry; how about a mandate for private for-profit health insurance though, now quit your bitchin'. Abortion! The killing of innocents...as a moral nation we can't have that, but we'll gladly pay the travel expenses to Iraq or Afghanistan for your teenager to fill the spot of a badly needed meat shield for bullets and bombs...they get a nice flag when they come home, and you can keep the flag.
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aaronbav Donating Member (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 09:46 AM
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38. Well SAID!!! K&R n/t
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 10:05 AM
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39. Slam! Bam! Out-of-the-park with the bases loaded!
Great one Will. Thanks, I needed that.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 10:12 AM
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40. Wasn't me.
The author was John Cory.

Glad you liked it. :)

Oh, and I sent someone your way the other day who was looking for a commercial pilot to talk to. Did they find you?
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SlingBlade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 10:46 AM
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44. "And I'm really pissed at the Democratic Party that
confuses having a plate of limp noodles with having a spine"

k&r that
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whatchamacallit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 10:56 AM
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46. D to the Duh!
:applause: :applause: :applause:
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 11:06 AM
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47. K & R
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Bryn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 11:10 AM
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48. Excellent article!
K&R
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WatchWhatISay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 11:48 AM
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49. Je suis aussi fache, Willie!
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:29 PM
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52. Excellent, but seriously what are we going to do about it? K&R. nt
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WatchWhatISay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 01:57 PM
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58. Yes, its about time we start answering that question.
Though I realize it is more comfortable to wait for some miracle to happen.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 02:46 PM
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60. Personally I dont see any hope other than a miracle. But I am not going down w/o a fight.
When I say fight, I dont mean an armed revolution. That would be a disaster and we would be worse off.

First we need a high profile organization that is talking about this.

Here is a rough plan from The Frank Factor. A place to start.

http://thefrankfactorspace.ning.com/notes/The_Plan
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 02:11 PM
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59. I've got a brand new pitchfork
one made in the USA no less! I guess I'm afraid if I start towards DC with that 5-tined persuader, I'll find out first-hand, what Guantanamo's like.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 02:48 PM
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61. An armed revolution is off the table. It would be exactly what they want.
It would be their excuse to jump directly to fascistic dictatorship.
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 03:11 PM
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62. I was being facetious, of course.
The tines are spaced far enough apart that they wouldn't serve for herding cats either.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 04:43 PM
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71. Agree. Sorry, there are so many idiots out there that I sometimes dont catch the facetiousness. nt
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 03:14 PM
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63. Yes sir.
As Jim Hightower said so well: "The only thing in the middle of the road is roadkill".

k&r
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 03:16 PM
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64. k&r
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Loki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 03:42 PM
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65. Will, with bipartisanship
we get the "harm" and they get the "money". You're angry, I'm fucking pissed.
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upi402 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 03:46 PM
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66. ibtl
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Paper Roses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 04:06 PM
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67. Excellent! n/t
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 04:32 PM
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69. I Am Curious
Yellow.
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DatManFromNawlins Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 04:35 PM
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70. Yeah, add that to the stack of diatribes that don't make a bit of difference
Edited on Thu Mar-11-10 04:38 PM by DatManFromNawlins
It's easy to be angry about shit that you don't plan to fix yourself. The internet is littered with these things. But unless our Congressional leaders come up with solutions they can actually pass, it's pointless.

Don't just say things.

Do things.

After the presidential election, the Democrats went home fat and happy, and the Republicans went home pissed off and eager to show it.

That's why they have tea parties, and we have.... Pelosi and Reid.

Hooray.
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MindandSoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 05:22 PM
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72. I applaud you! You are entirely right and I am with you!
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 05:24 PM
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73. Every word you wrote about "bi-partisanship" is true!
Edited on Thu Mar-11-10 05:25 PM by David Zephyr
Stay angry, William. My health won't allow me to anymore.

Edit: K&R.
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SycamoreFlynn Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-11-10 05:40 PM
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74. I Am Angry
Mr. Pitt, YOU are one cool dude!!!!!!!
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