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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 10:06 PM
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Last possible min. HCR Town Hall meeting in NC 5th district. I now want to throw my jacket away.
Edited on Mon Mar-15-10 10:50 PM by Mira
Virginia Foxx walked up to me, patted my arm, and told me she loved it's colors.

A friend and I drove to the meeting which was announced, as usual, on very short notice, and is a true rarity. Congresswoman Foxx does most of her interactions by phone in arranged call-in meetings.

She seems extremely wary of opposition, and quite frankly, neither the composition of the crowd, nor the setup she had in place (having to catch a plane she said 1 1/2 hours after the start of the town hall meeting)
allowed for a serious confrontation.

Here a few photos, I had not set my camera correctly, but at least you can see who she is, you might remember seeing her grey head bobbing at meetings Michelle Bachman holds, or clips of her wisdom brought to us by Keith and Rachel.



This is her Democratic Challenger, Billy Kennedy



A shot of the audience



And a photo of a person sitting in front of me.



For your "enlightenment" and also to remind you of why her comments often make it to MSNBC shows, I will list a few direct quotes from the Q and A.
But first I want to post the response to her meeting Mr. Kennedy sent out tonight:

http://www.billykennedyforcongress.com/


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Candidate Billy Kennedy responded to Virginia Foxx’s town hall event on March 15, 2010, in Statesville:

After Rep. Foxx's health care town hall today, I searched the Constitution to see where it says we taxpayers are supposed to be subsidizing her personal health care insurance. I couldn't find it.
You see, Rep. Foxx says unless something is expressly written in the Constitution, then we the people have no right to want or expect it.

In fact, that was the exact question I had for her today (had I been called on). I wanted to know, since she's been a politician for the last 27 years, when was the last time the taxpayers weren't paying for her insurance?



It's fine for Ms. Foxx to stand up there today and tell folks that the people need to handle their own health care costs, that the government can't do anything right (so why even try?) and that our current system is the best in the world, when she lets the government handle her health needs and expects us to hand over our hard-earned dollars not just for our health needs, but for hers too.



Our health system is indeed the greatest in the world. For her. For those of us who aren't on government programs like Medicare or Medicaid, or Tri-Care or the Federal Health Care plan, not so great.

The saddest moment of the day came when a gentleman stood up to talk about how his son had tried for 7 years to get government disability due to his cystic fibrosis.

This nice man choked up when he recounted how his son had died shortly after he received disability benefits he'd fought so hard for. Ms. Foxx's reply was, "Government shouldn't have been handling this."

Now I thought to myself: if government shouldn't have been handling it, just who does Rep. Foxx thinks should have?

Does she honestly believe private insurance was an option? But then, I checked. Indeed, there is nothing in the Constitution about helping out people who have a disability from the coughing, fatigue, pneumonia and pain of cystic fibrosis. In fact, I couldn't find a single one of those words, so I guess, by her view, she's right.



Ms. Foxx says she is all about health care reform. She says we need to do something, and that her idea is to lower health costs by expanding Health Savings Accounts, limiting the ability of people to sue if they have been physically injured through the actions of a hospital or their doctor, and allowing insurance to be purchased across state lines.



Of course all of us know that Health Savings Accounts are mostly just an option for healthy and wealthy families since a lot of us just don't have the money to pay into one in the first place and, even if we did, we could never be able to save enough to pay for cancer treatments out of pocket.



When someone asked how it would work if we let health care companies sell their policies across state lines since the states regulated the companies, Rep. Foxx replied that working people might not really want "all those restrictions on the health care corporations" anyhow.

Of course, as a wealthy politician who's covered by a taxpayer-subsidized insurance plan regulated by the federal government, she has nothing to lose from letting the rest of us fend for ourselves in an unregulated insurance free-for-all.



As for tort reform, the Congressional Budget Office says that wouldn't reduce total U.S. health care spending by more than about 0.5 percent.

...

But I'd be willing to talk that one out with Rep. Foxx--if she'd agree to give up her government health care in return for it.


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Just a few from the Q & A :

Question:
Why is the cost of Insurance coverage rising so much?

Answer:
Because Medicare and Medicaid only pay 60 cents on the dollar of the medical bills, and they have to make up the difference. That in turn eliminates more people from having access to health insurance

==========

Question:
Why does Health Care work well in Germany, how do they do it there?

Answer:
I don't have the answer to that, I'll have to get back to you.

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Question:
What is your personal opinion of what will happen with the Health Care Reform Bill?

Answer:
I don't honestly know. It depends on how many arms Obama and Pelosi want to break, and how many promises they are willing to make to get it passed.

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Question:
Why are the Costs of Drugs rising so high?

Answer:
The fault lies with the FDA. They take as long as 15 years to approve new drugs.

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Statement from a Constituent:

We love you and appreciate you working so hard and being so honest in Washington

Reply:

The Lord gives us all certain talents, and I am honored to use mine to be of service to you.

Health Care in America is not perfect.
We do need to improve it.
But it is still the best system in the world.

The more the government is involved, the more expensive and the more ineffective it is going to be.

=====================

Sadly I also report that while the Questions and Answers were going on, at a place where a person had asked:
"I'm against this bill but something must be done, we are all suffering and WHAT CAN WE DO?", a man was overheard saying, under his breath but audibly: " Well, I wrote to the "insert N word here""!

This is my second time at one of these meetings, one was about a year ago, and I must say I don't really feel all that safe emotionally, and physically.



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supernova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 10:16 PM
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1. Thanks for the report
You're a better woman than me for sitting through that.

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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 10:31 PM
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2. Thanks, it's not exactly a cake walk.
Trying to witness this Happening in a deep red part of NC it is very hard to not gasp out loud.
It's walking a fine line in this country which is so deeply split along partisan lines, and people are carrying guns.

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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 10:34 PM
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3. what a bunch of angry old Southern crackers.
what's with the old camouflage shirt guy? Is he still waiting for the Russians to invade? It's people like these that made me glad I got the hell out of Mississippi while I could.
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 10:43 PM
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4. I'm afraid
all those equal signs in your post make the words go miles beyond a normal page width. :(

Makes it really hard to read.

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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 10:47 PM
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5. Oh wow, you just did me a favor. I'll see if I can still take them out.
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 10:56 PM
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6. Thanks, Jane Austin, I rushed off and I think
I got it.
So sorry, and thanks very much for the tip.
:thumbsup:
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CC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 11:02 PM
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8. K & R
Glad you got to go. The only one I tried with my congress critter he didn't get to say much for all the tea-baggers yelling. Certainly no one else got to say much. Now these same baggers are trying to convince people they weren't the rude ones. :crazy:
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 12:24 AM
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12. Thanks a million for fixing that!
Most folks don't realize those organizing marks won't wrap and so they mess up the page width.

Glad you are on Virginia Fox's case!
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 10:56 PM
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7. Thanks for having the courage to attend
and representing the good guys even though you didn't get a chance to ask a question......and don't throw your jacket away whatever you do.
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 11:03 PM
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9. She was in Statesville on Monday
And, as with every place in the US, I'm sure the clueless and scary flocked to the meeting. But not all of us are "crackers" as someone up-thread hinted.

The online story in the local paper was followed by this response letter:

http://www2.statesville.com/content/2010/mar/13/foxx-tackle-health-care-city-forum/

Posted by (Chagrined) on 03/15/2010 at 05:39 am.

Rep. Foxx was born Virginia Palmieri in the Bronx, New York while the greatest generation was fighting Mussolini. This New York born Italian Catholic has displayed contempt for her constituents by demonstrating that she does not have our best interest at heart.

Rep. Foxx has advocated for tax cuts for banks, corporations, oil companies, etc. and she qualifies for the title of 'Queen of Corporate Fascism." Rep. Foxx has corporate interests at heart! Mussolini would be so proud of her.

Rep. Foxx stated, "The Constitution doesn't grant a right to health care and it doesn't give the federal government the authority to deal with health care."

The Preamble states, "We the people of the United States must provide for the general welfare." 'General welfare' and 'healthcare' are synonymous. Of course, during the founding, there were no Italians, no Irish Catholics, no Jews, no Asians, no Cubans involved in creating this Democracy.

After a trip to Israel,financed by American Israel Education Foundation (AIPAC) at the cost of $13,939.24, Rep. Foxx stated in a news release on 9-1-05, "I am more convinced than ever that it is crucial that the U.S. continue our strong support for Israel." She voted to give Israel $2.2 billion American tax dollars to remove illegal settlers from Gaza while voting against a package for the victims of Hurricane Katrina.

Israel is now requesting $3 billion in aid in the FY2011 budget and settlements on occupied land are being build with American tax dollars. Our tax dollars are being used to build houses in Israel while one out of every eight American families are loosing their home.

Rep. Foxx believes that our tax dollars should be used for Israel but not for health care for the 48 million Americans who don't have health care. (America spends more dollars per Israeli than per American).

We need affordable health care for all Americans, especially those who have a pre-existing condition. No patriotic American would object to health care for all citizens of this country. Of course, Rep. Foxx and patriotism are not synonymous!
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 11:28 PM
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11. Very good catch, posting the comments by this reader, and good to know.
Today people wanted to ask her about her vote on school lunches, a week or so ago, and her being one of only 13 Republicans to vote against them, but they were not called on to pose a question.

In the meeting today one person asked about dental care for children, and how important it is for their life to have a good foundation with their teeth.
She was all for it.

Go figure

Said, she grew up so poor, quote "I doubt anyone here can imagine just how poor we were", and how much it has cost her, and the procedures she had to endure, to make up for the poor dental care of her youth.
All the time listening I thought that WE paid for that.

At least I bet we did, though she is a very very wealthy woman.

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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 10:13 AM
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14. I'm not sure if you are from the south, but if not let me clue you.
The letter writer spent most of the letter calling her a carpetbagging yankee.

And considering she is, I am surprised at the number of good old boys who take a shine to her.
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 10:53 AM
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17. She may hve been born in NYCity - but
she was surely brought here right after birth and before she learned to tauwk...
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TalkingDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-17-10 01:50 PM
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21. And George Bush spoke "cowboy". An act to gull the gullible. n/t
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agentS Donating Member (922 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-15-10 11:21 PM
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10. she disappoints me every day.
hopefully NC residents will be able to get her off the payroll and she'll learn just how expensive real health care is.

I've read articles with rich people complaining about the cost of medical care and health insurance. when even THEY are upset, you know there's a problem...
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 10:11 AM
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13. Impressive coverage of the event.
three cheers for you, Mira.

K&R..and this needs more recs, IMHO.
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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 10:29 AM
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15. Yikes, that's a room full of anger.
Are they angry at health care, or are they upset at being assailed by Foxx cooties? We had similar cooties here, they were hosted by one Marilyn Musgrave; she and I had a mutual friend and we each spoke at his funeral, and I stayed clear of the podium she'd leaned on during her remarks. Like Foxx, she used her impoverished childhood as a campaign tool; then she voted against S-chip. We finally unseated the witch in '08. It can be done.

Keep the jacket, but have it fumigated. I'm just glad that her touch didn't cause your arm to wither and fall off. Yuck.

Kayed and arrrred.

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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 10:45 AM
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16. Throwing away the jacket is not enough

I think you're going to have to lose the arm.

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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 11:22 AM
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18. Excellent OP, Mira
VF is out of her damn mind.

Seeing your pix I want to :hug: you!
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 11:49 AM
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19. One more kick for lunch time.
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WillYourVoteBCounted Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-16-10 05:44 PM
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20. sorry to say that this millionaire is my cold blooded congress-woman
bleh.
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