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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 09:53 PM
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At this point, what's left but to
bang our tin cups against the bars in unison and chant resistance slogans?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 09:55 PM
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 09:58 PM
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3. Particapate in what? A sell out to the Insurance Industry? Maybe, maybe this Health
Care bill is the best that is coming at this point, but it really sucks big time that the so-called Greatest Country on earth is 19th in Health Care. Canada is 6th. right now, and even with this proposed Health Care bill, we will not move anywhere near that level.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:02 PM
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10. Your perceptual problems are yours, not ours. n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:10 PM
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:15 PM
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29. Oh, yeah! I saw how the teabaggers were all pissed off about the loss of the public option
oh...wait...
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:17 PM
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32. Baloney. And no, a kitten will not die every minute if this bill doesn't pass.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 05:34 AM
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40. Wanna bet? I WILL microwave a kitten exactly 6 hours from now, unless--
Everybody on DU agrees RIGHT NOW to raise $50,000 to put into my bank account. And those of you sick fucks who refuse to do that just don't care about animal welfare, that much is obvious. So, what'll it be folks? $50K to me ASAP, or a dead kitty? MAKE UP YOUR GODDAM MINDS, FAST!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:06 PM
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:08 PM
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14. You think that Joe LIEberman, Ben Nelson, Evan Bayh,
Blanche Lincoln, Max Baucus, David Pryor, Mary Landrieu, Bill Nelson, Tom Carper, Kent Conrad, Mark Warner and Diane Feinstein were going to let a really good progressive bill pass?

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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:10 PM
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17. Oh for fuck sakes, what is it you don't understand about this POS bill that you are defending? n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:11 PM
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:14 PM
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25. Fuck off with the teabagger BS... The bill sucks and that is the bottom line.
Yeah it will probably pass and maybe (but I doubt it) it will be improved on and blah, blah, blah... This country still needs to get Corporations in line, and that includes Health Insurers big time.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:14 PM
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26. I think that once we went with reconciliation we did not need them. nt
All the other Senators plus Biden would have been 51 and we could have had our public option. But nooooo.....we had to suck up to the insurance and hospital industries.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 05:35 AM
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41. Sure, if Obama had bothered to threaten them the way he threatened Kucinich n/t
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:52 PM
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39. Yes, Nutjobs ARE uniting.
It's impossible to tell the difference between a Freep Republic post and a Message Discipline LLC post anymore.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:10 PM
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18. Actually we're 19th in people dying from preventable causes
(other than accidents) things like diabetes, burst appendix, infections that festered too long. Overall, the World Health Organization ranks the U.S. 37th - right between Costa Rica and Slovenia.
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:16 PM
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31. Lol.. That seems to me to be much worse actually! And I know that it is not a laughing
mater, indeed. Unfortunately this bill probably won't improve that standing by much.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 09:58 PM
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LakeSamish706 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:09 PM
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15. Of course he/she is in your concept of what is a good bill vs what is absolute bullshit. n/t
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readmoreoften Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:15 PM
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28. -100. I'd rather suffer the OP than you, thanks.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:12 PM
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22. Participate? Participation wasn't welcomed. This is a shut the fuck up and go along with it bill.
You and I both know it.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 01:01 PM
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47. +1
Much like many posts around here.
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dflprincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:14 PM
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24. I've been participating for 38 years
I've stuck by the Democrats for years; held a variety of party offices and worked on more campaigns than I can remember. For years I thought of myself as a party hack.

Pardon me all to hell if I'm fed up with being lied to and sold out.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 09:57 PM
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2. A song for the resistance
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:04 PM
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12. I like this one. Somebody put the finale from The Last Waltz back up.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:00 PM
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5. No Health Care! No Student Loans! No Unemployment Benefits!
Yeah I'd love to see that.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:00 PM
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6. yup.....
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scheming daemons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:02 PM
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8. DK switching sides and convincing others to also really has you discombobulated, doesn't it?
.....
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:11 PM
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19. Kucinich didn't switch sides, he acted out of conscience
with the full knowledge of what his vote means.

It is easy to pontificate when one's opinion carries no consequences.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:16 PM
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:02 PM
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9. Well, pissing and moaning on the internet remains an option...
:eyes:

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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 08:27 AM
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43. And it's becoming more and more a Public Option.
Whining without a viable plan to do something other that what is being done is irrelevant, it seems to me. There has been lots of whining here, but precious little in the way of alternative plans that have any chance of success.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:04 PM
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11. just be patient.as with NAFTA, which was supposed to be 'fixed'
this will also not end well.

just be patient, and you can say, "I told you so."

be nice when you say it, but just be patient. The shit will hit the fan.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:12 PM
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21. If you're young enough you can work on training in an occupation in demand and emigrate
I, alas, waited too long. It was after the theft of the 2000 election that it hit me that all our efforts have been for naught and this country will not be turned back from the path of corporate fascism. When I looked into getting out I was trained in an occupation of preference. But..I had just turned 45. Don't make the mistake I did.

The rest of us? May the gods be with us.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:15 PM
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:22 PM
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35. I believe I already stated I looked into it after the theft of the 2000 election and I'm too old
And I really don't care where Rush goes. He can afford health care anywhere. I was advising those who still have the option to look into emigrating to 1st world, civilized nations.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:19 PM
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33. I can't. My mother is alone. And here Hugo Chavez offered jobs
to unemployed English teachers in California, too. :)
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:23 PM
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36. Do they need old nurses? nt
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:29 PM
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37. No but I will soon. Maybe they'll take us as a team!
lol
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:40 PM
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38. That could work!
And the company would be excellent :)
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:13 PM
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23. The alternative I've chosen/had imposed is to stop playing.
It ain't easy, but then neither is getting screwed in a rigged game for a lifetime to make somebody else rich.


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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 08:13 AM
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42. +1
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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-18-10 10:21 PM
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34. "join vastleft in a GBCW Post and leave DU"?
I mean, since you asked.

Me, I don't care, it just might be more painless for all involved.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 08:29 AM
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44. Since you asked, you could take your deflated football and go home.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 08:29 AM
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45. ....
"Be not intimidated... nor suffer yourselves to be wheedled out of your liberties by any pretense of politeness, delicacy, or decency. These, as they are often used, are but three different names for hypocrisy, chicanery and cowardice." John Adams 2nd U.S. Presiden
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troubledamerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-19-10 09:24 PM
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48. Let's hear it for JOE-mentum
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