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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 11:50 AM
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‘This is called a ‘bunker mentality'’ ("the president has reached full self-pity mode")
May 01, 2007

‘This is called a ‘bunker mentality'’

ThinkProgress highlights this disturbing item from yesterday’s Nelson Report:

(S)ome big money players up from Texas recently paid a visit to their friend in the White House. The story goes that they got out exactly one question, and the rest of the meeting consisted of The President in an extended whine, a rant, actually, about no one understands him, the critics are all messed up, if only people would see what he’s doing things would be OK…etc., etc.

This is called a “bunker mentality” and it’s not attractive when a friend does it. When the friend is the President of the United States, it can be downright dangerous. Apparently the Texas friends were suitably appalled, hence the story now in circulation.

I obviously don’t know the president personally, but I’ve always perceived him in a state of blissful ignorance. He’s in his Bubble, with aides around to tell him what he wants to hear. He’ll soak the applause at sycophant-only rallies, assuming that these “real” Americans are representative of the electorate at large.

But if the insights from the Nelson Report are right, the president has reached full self-pity mode. Bush is more aware of current events than he lets on, and for all of his rhetoric about disinterest in the polls, he’s at least tacitly familiar with his stunning lack of public approval.

A mature, sensible leader might become introspective, wondering how best to get back on track. Bush has apparently taken to whining about how unappreciated he his. As I recall, Nixon started talking the same way, right before he was driven from office.

This isn’t encouraging. In fact, if Bush starts wondering what he can do to prove everyone wrong about his greatness, this kind of thinking could get scary.


Laura Bush: “No one suffers more than their President and I do”?
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 11:56 AM
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1. He's as dangerous as a cornered and wounded animal
I'm glad to know his "bubble" isn't that insulating; he should have to feel the pain he's causing. But he's such a sociopath that instead of an epiphany, I fear the real bunkers will start to go up now.
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HuffleClaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 02:02 PM
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27. i've always felt the most dangerous time would be when finally HE is personally threatened
he doesn't care one whit about the fate of gonzo, libby, cheney, bolton, condi, or even laura but when HIS neck on the line, he won't react well. who knows what he'll do to divert attention from himself?
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 11:56 AM
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2. Bush is a self-absorbed, sociopathic, lying, little boy inside
a man's body. This report is not a surprise.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:02 PM
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4. Yes he is. Probably comes from NEVER having been told NO in his whole miserable failure of a life.
Heckuvajob Poppy and Babs!
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:01 PM
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3. He doesn't feel appreciated... poor dipshit
I appreciate the fact that he will be out of office 1/20/2009.

I appreciate the fact that he will go down in history as the worst President we have ever had.

I appreciate the fact that the whole Bush family are a bunch of idiots.

I appreciate the fact that at least the Bush family are not Democrats.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 02:09 PM
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28. At least Poppy was smart enough to stop at the Iraqi border..
he knew to leave well enough alone. Not so the dim son. Or maybe this is all according to plan. I find it really hard to believe that they could fuck up this badly unless it was on purpose. :shrug: :cry:
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CrispyQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 02:36 PM
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31. Their arrogance is matched only by their incompetence. --nt
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:07 PM
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5. and the full text is on the Huffington Post
I loved this quote:

"You know, if Bush would stop his self-indulgent stubbornness for half a day, he could see plain as day that he has an opportunity to retain American control of the World Bank by easing Wolfie out. If he tries to keep Wolfie in that spot, American control could end.

I really wonder whether his failure to distinguish between necessary toughness and catastrophically shoot-ourselves-(America)-in-our-foot pigheadedness results from biological anomaly. His inability to harvest experience, and so to think and form successful judgements, is just so inexplicable".




http://www.huffingtonpost.com/seanpaul-kelley/bush-in-the-bunker_b_47328.html
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:16 PM
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8. His inability to harvest experience, and so to think and form successful judgements,
Edited on Tue May-01-07 12:17 PM by truedelphi
is just so inexplicable."

Something has warped his brain - is it a wet brain syndrom, mad cow disease, a degenerative condition?

He was articulate in the 1990's, and then over time has gotten to the point that he is not the least bit coherent.
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:22 PM
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10. I wonder how much booze Babs put away 60 years ago....
That's a classic description of someone suffering from fetal alcohol syndrome.

On the other hand, he could just be an asshole.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:56 PM
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17. I think he just an a$$hole who is enabled by other a$$holes.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:11 PM
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6. thinkprogress has added a link to the Huffington Post with more
Edited on Tue May-01-07 12:12 PM by renate
On edit: never mind, CatWoman beat me to it! :)
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:11 PM
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7. In 2001 (when he lost Senate), he was threatening staff that he'd leave to Crawford
and never return - because of all the criticism. He got the first extended vacation out of that. And we got 9.11
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:19 PM
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9. We've been watching "The Tudors" and Bush seems to be like Henry in some ways
There seem to be many parallels.....especially in the self-centered area.
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Ganja Ninja Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:28 PM
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11. There's one sure way to shut your critics up Georgie.
Resign! That'll show'em. They won't have George W Bush to kick around anymore.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:10 PM
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18. Classic!!! That's a Nixon NyaNya if I've ever heard it!!
And bush is following that same type of psychotic break with propriety.

Come to think of it :freak: I don't think he ever had any concept of propriety.

:kick::kick::kick:
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:36 PM
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12. It conjures this image in my mind:
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:50 PM
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14. lol
:rofl:
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:52 PM
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15. Oh sweet Jesus that would be wonderful.
Minus the throne. And the cell is too luxurious for him. Needs more filth and roaches.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:20 PM
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21. yup, that's him alright, a spoiled little frat boy!!
FU *
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 05:29 PM
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33. That image
deserves its own thread.

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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:48 PM
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13. "A mature, sensible leader might become introspective"
The closest Bush ever comes to introspection is when he looks deeply, slowly into the bottle of Jack D before chugging a couple shots.
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The Count Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:44 PM
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25. "Monica had more leader in her than W will ever have"
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 12:55 PM
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16. Thom Hartmann is talking about this with Victoria Jones right now.
Compared Bush to the waning days of the Nixon years.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:17 PM
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19. Bush should be relieved of command by congress.
People are dying.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:19 PM
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20. Captain Queeg is going down and taking us with him
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:20 PM
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22. Bush will end up out-Nixoning Nixon.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:30 PM
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23. CREEPy
:evilgrin:

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dave_p Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:34 PM
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24. He's been this way since December
... after a brief bit of aw, it's just an election, we'll blunder through as usual - since then it's all been this bunker paralysis. He can't consider options for getting back on any kind of track, that would be surrendering to the Bolsheviks and betraying everything the Reich has achieved.
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Cosmocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 01:52 PM
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26. Putting aside that these morons ...
actually propped this guy up to get him elected in the first place, the WORST thing the republican party has done to this country is COMPLETELY bowed to this guys every wish and desire ...

There truly has not been a more disfunction of our government than the years from 2000 to 2006 ... ONE god darned veto and NO official congressional investigations ... There has NEVER been a president that needed a congress to keep him in line more than this guy, and this congress and this admin TOTALLY subjugated their responsibilities, and in the process let an incompetent and the criminally insane ideoluges around him run amuck ...
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 02:12 PM
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29. It must be absolute hell to be working in the White House right now...
the only ones left are the extremely corrupted and the extremely insane.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 02:21 PM
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30. Carpetbagger missed adding in one more bit of evidence for this bunker mentality...
Shrub accepting a Purple Heart from a Vietnam War veteran.

Coverage on Alternet, and Crooks and Liars...
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onethatcares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-01-07 02:52 PM
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32. and the cool thing is, we're watching history
most of us are waiting if not expecting the day he does an out and out bizarro routine in front of the cameras. We'll watch him get carried off the stage by some marines and the screen will fade to black. The moment of silence will stretch like an eternity only to be broken by the loud cheers of all that wanted the moment. All of us that couldn't wait for it to happen. Then it's gonna get really strange in this country, how will the media handle it? Will they say the strain of office got to be unbearable, or that his drinking got the best of him? Who will mourn his fade from office? Tom Delay and friends?
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 01:06 AM
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34. His Narcissistic Personality Disorder may be about to take a turn....
Seriously. According to the DSM-IV, you need to hit five out of these nine criteria to be classified as someone with Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Read 'em and tell me George W. Bush isn't a walking case study:

(1) has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)

(2) is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

(3) believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)

(4) requires excessive admiration

(5) has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations

(6) is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends

(7) lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others

(8) is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her

(9) shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes

The fun part is that eventually the NPD asshole eventually bumps up against reality, and when that happens the patient totally cracks up--depression, neurosis, all kinds of bad shit.

The disorder is untreatable; the best you can do is rebuild the patient's self-esteem well enough that he goes back to being an asshole and invariably leaves treatment.

I figure Bush has a couple of shrinks (and a couple of sociopaths in Karl Rove and Dick Cheney) doing just that down at his bullshit ranch a couple or more times a year. But as he wallows ever deeper in his own incompetence and evil, he'll respond less and less easily. I bet he'll spend all summer in Texas this year.

He's a fucking nutcase; he's a classic target for Section 4 of the 25th Amendment, but unfortunately that requires an honest Vice President.
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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 12:20 PM
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35. Kick! n/t
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