72 from my state and no end in sight- does Bush never count the cost?

http://icasualties.org/oif/ByState.aspx

and thats just the Americans, nothing compared to the loss of Iraqi lives...

Wisconsin 72
Amherst Uhl III, Eugene A. Specialist 15-Nov-2003
Bay City Jaenke, Jamie Petty Officer 2nd Class 05-Jun-2006
Beaver Dam Straseskie, Kirk Allen Sergeant 19-May-2003
Beaver Dam Cantafio, Ryan J. Private 1st Class 25-Nov-2004
Black Creek Eacho, Donald W. Sergeant 1st Class 04-Mar-2005
Brookfield Schram, Matthew E. Major 26-May-2003
Calendonia Wyatt, Daniel R. Lance Corporal 12-Oct-2004
Casco Thiry, Jesse L. Corporal 05-Apr-2004
Cedarburg Castner, Stephen W. Corporal 24-Jul-2006
Chetek Matus, Andrew G. Lance Corporal 21-Jan-2007
Cleveland Kiser, Charles A. Staff Sergeant 24-Jun-2004
Clintonville Hansen, Warren S. Sergeant 15-Nov-2003
Columbus Kurth, John F. "Hans" Captain 13-Mar-2004
DeForest O'Donnell, Shane K. Lance Corporal 08-Nov-2004
Ellsworth Hoyer, Bert Edward Private 1st Class 10-Mar-2004
Fairchild Kaufman, Charles A. Specialist 26-Jun-2005
Florence Palmisano, Eric A. Lance Corporal 02-Apr-2006
Fond du Lac Tollefson, John O. Specialist 27-Jul-2005
Fountain City Bossert, Andrew L. Sergeant 07-Mar-2005
Grant Halverson, Andrew Private 1st Class 09-Oct-2004
Green Bay Edinger, Benjamin C. Sergeant 23-Nov-2004
Hudson Smith, Benjamin A. Specialist 02-Nov-2005
Janesville Schneider, Sean M. Private 1st Class 29-Mar-2004
Janesville Vacho, Nathan J. Sergeant 05-May-2006
Kenosha Basham, Robert J. Staff Sergeant 14-Apr-2007
Lena Frye, Nichole M. Private 1st Class 16-Feb-2004
Loyal Olson, Todd D. Staff Sergeant 27-Dec-2004
Luxemburg Zimmerman, Luke J. Sergeant 27-Oct-2006
Madison Maida, Mark A. Sergeant 27-May-2005
Madison Kading, Matthew R. Sergeant 1st Class 31-Oct-2005
Mayville Wendling, Michael J. Specialist 26-Sep-2005
Menomonie Wolfe, Jeremy L. 2nd Lieutenant 15-Nov-2003
Merrill Dampier, Grant Allen Private 1st Class 15-May-2006
Merrill Jopek, Ryan D. Sergeant 02-Aug-2006
Milwaukee McGlothin, Michael A. Specialist 17-Apr-2004
Milwaukee Soltau, Adrian V. Corporal 13-Sep-2004
Minong Timberman, Harry H. Lance Corporal 17-Mar-2007
Monona/Madison Simon, Chad J. Staff Sergeant 04-Aug-2005
Neenah St. John II, Jon B. Private 1st Class 27-Jan-2007
New Berlin Witmer, Michelle M. Specialist 09-Apr-2004
Oneida Jerabek, Ryan M. Private 1st Class 06-Apr-2004
Oshkosh Vroman, Brent T. Private 1st Class 13-Dec-2004
Oshkosh Jansky, Benjamin D. Captain 27-Jul-2005
Oshkosh Wallace, Andrew P. Sergeant 26-Sep-2005
Platteville Splinter, Christopher J. Major 24-Dec-2003
Pleasant Prairie Clark, Eric D. Private 1st Class 11-May-2006
Plum City Diesing, Trevor J. Sergeant 1st Class 25-Aug-2005
Racine Poelman, Eric J. Specialist 05-Jun-2005
Racine Bixler, Evan A. Private 24-Dec-2006
Rice Lake Sturino, Paul J. Specialist 22-Sep-2003
Sheboygan Prening, Brian P. Corporal 12-Nov-2004
Shiocton Riehl, Nicholas E. Private 1st Class 27-Apr-2007
Sparta Gaunky, Anthony Alexander "Alex" Private 1st Class 18-Nov-2005
Spencer Schmitz, Joshua M. Corporal 26-Dec-2006
Spooner Gabrielson, Dan H. Sergeant 1st Class 09-Jul-2003
Stevens Point Mattek Jr., John J. Lance Corporal 13-Jun-2005
Suamico (Green Bay) Hunt, Isaiah R. Private 1st Class 15-Nov-2004
Sun Prairie Scott, Joshua Michael Chief Warrant Officer (CW2) 27-May-2005
Superior VanAlstine, Adam J. Lance Corporal 25-Feb-2006
Superior Cross, Kenneth Corporal 27-Aug-2006
Tomah Stevens, Andy A. Sergeant 01-Dec-2005
Two Rivers Novak, Shaun A. Specialist 27-Aug-2006
Vesper Tillery, Jesse D. Lance Corporal 02-Dec-2006
Waterford Schiller, Rhett W. Captain 16-Nov-2006
Waukesha Warner, Richard D. Lance Corporal 13-Dec-2004
Waukesha Warns II, Robert P. Corporal 08-Nov-2004
Waupun Bosveld, Rachel K. Private 1st Class 26-Oct-2003
Wausau/Rhinelander Martin, Stephen G. Staff Sergeant 02-Jul-2004
West Bend Cornell, Todd R. Staff Sergeant 09-Nov-2004
West Bend Wichlacz, Travis M. Lance Corporal 05-Feb-2005
West Bend Kryst, Kevin M. Captain 18-Dec-2006
Wisconsin Rapids Grimm, Matthew T. Corporal 15-Jan-2007

:grr: Bush doesn't give a rat's a$$. Didn't his father refer to the troops as cannon fodder? Why would Jr. be any different?

that is, when he thinks about them at all.

:grr: Or rather the "war" will be viewed as a "comma" in history. I loathe him!

He learned from his(why worry my beautiful mind)momma and he's never had to pay the price for anything in his life. Poor baby!:nopity: :nopity:

:eyes:

don't forget him...

:eyes:

Illinois -- 122 (where my son was deployed from)

My state: Massachusetts -- 52

Brockton - Palermo Jr., Anthony, Captain -- 06-Apr-2007

Norfolk - Kennedy, Adam P., Sergeant -- 08-Apr-2007

South Easton - Callahan, William J., Sergeant -- 27-Apr-2007
(left a 2 week old son and a wife)

:cry:

:hug:

Or are they just pawns in his game?

Some of these Wisconsin kids are so young... they just graduated from high school a few years ago. They didn't get a chance to do so many things and now they never will. Small town kids that everybody knew and everybody will miss. So much pain caused by each death and all these arrogant men making decisions without ever thinking of the cost. They don't want to see the suffering they cause.

I don't believe that Roosevelt was that kind of man. Lincoln felt the pain of death caused by war. And at least Johnson, who was capable of depression, felt something. But to Bush, its utterly trivial, he feels nothing.

he wouldn't go to any funerals, right?

He doesn't even want the caskets shown! :grr:

This man is so full of denial. I wonder what he would do if one of his parents died while he was in office... probably fall to pieces. He'd have to go to the funeral.

...one of the signs of a sociopath.

Amazing that the families let him get away with it!

he and Laura suffer more than anybody else over the deaths he has caused.

much the same way. Personally I think george uses our troops as bait for his oily wars.

She made that terrible comment about the displaced people in New Orleans ~ GW is a true son-of-a-bitch! haha

But some rich, white, powerful people really do think of those lower on the totem pole as subhuman. Sad.

back when the number of casualties was under 1000- I think it was around 800. All they were doing was reading the names and showing the pictures of the Americans who had lost their lives in this war. There was a lot of criticism because it was "political". How was it political?

Well I watched it and there was no commentary at all but two things struck me: 1) what a waste of life when nobody really knew what the war was for, and 2) minorities were over-represented. There were more black and hispanic men among the dead than caucasian men. (There were women, but not that many.) I am guessing that means that minority men have less opportunity, and are more likely to volunteer for the army, and hence more likely to die in war. That's how it was in vietnam. That's how it is in Iraq. Something isn't right. Its always the rich white men deciding to go to war, but rarely their sons and daughters who are risking their lives.

imo impeachment is not nearly enough ~ I'd like to see key members of the administration tried for war crimes. I know it's probably not legally possible, but it seems like the right response.

Adrian Strange, William R. Private 1st Class 02-Apr-2004
Ambrose Gibbs, Mathew V. Specialist 03-Aug-2005
Americus Brunson, Jacques Earl "Gus" Specialist 24-Jul-2005
Atlanta Washington, Bennie J. Sergeant 04-Jan-2005
Atlanta Shields, Jonathan B. Sergeant 12-Nov-2004
Atlanta Brown, Tyler Hall 1st Lieutenant 14-Sep-2004
Atlanta Kim, Kun Y. Lance Corporal 02-Apr-2006
Atlanta Watts, Donovan E. Command Sergeant Major 21-Nov-2006
Atlanta Smith, Jonathan K. Specialist 11-Mar-2007
Augusta Thigpen Sr., Thomas R. Master Sergeant 16-Mar-2004
Augusta Johnson, Nathaniel H. Specialist 08-Jan-2004
Augusta Jones Sr., David R. Staff Sergeant 30-Jul-2005
Augusta Lucas, Joseph Alan Specialist 15-Dec-2005
Augusta Jordan, Michael Anthony Petty Officer 1st Class 13-Jan-2006
Austell Camposiles, Marvin A. Specialist 17-Apr-2004
Blackshear Nutt, David T. Sergeant 14-May-2003
Bogart Yahudah, Benyahmin B. Specialist 13-Jul-2005
Brinson Malcom Jr., Dan T. 1st Lieutenant 10-Nov-2004
Browersville King, Jerry R. Specialist 23-Apr-2007
Broxton Crockett, Ricky L. Staff Sergeant 12-Jan-2004
Brunswick Holland, Christopher J. Specialist 17-Dec-2003
Brunswick Gillican III, Charles C. Sergeant 14-May-2005
Canon Allman II, Daniel J. Private 1st Class 13-Nov-2006
Columbus Whitaker, Marquis A. Private 1st Class 27-Apr-2004
Columbus McGee, John E. Sergeant 02-May-2005
Columbus Salie, David J. Sergeant 1st Class 14-Feb-2005
Columbus Dickens, Tyler J. Corporal 12-Apr-2005
Columbus Scott, Rickey Staff Sergeant 20-Jan-2006
Conyers Rincon, Diego Fernando Private 1st Class 29-Mar-2003
Covington Fuller, Carl Ray Staff Sergeant 24-Jul-2005
Decatur Draughn Jr., George Ray Sergeant 01-Sep-2005
Decatur Langarica, Victor M. Corporal 20-Jan-2007
Donalsonville Alday, Zachary M. Seaman 09-Jun-2006
Douglasville Strickland, Thomas J. Sergeant 15-Aug-2005
Duluth Warren, Charles Houghton Sergeant 1st Class 03-Aug-2005
Eastman Dickerson, Christopher M. Petty Officer 3rd Class 30-Apr-2004
Ellabell Dameron, Joel P. Staff Sergeant 30-Oct-2005
Ellaville Anderson, Victor A. Sergeant 1st Class 30-Jul-2005
Ellijay Harris, Noah 1st Lieutenant 18-Jun-2005
Evans Merck, Dennis P. Staff Sergeant 20-Oct-2005
Fayetteville Blanton, Jeffery S. Lance Corporal 12-Dec-2004
Fitzgerald Marshall, Randell T. Sergeant 23-Apr-2007
Folkston Ganey Jr., Jerry Lewis Sergeant 03-Aug-2005
Forsyth Dodson Jr., Philip Allan Sergeant 02-Dec-2005
Griffin Hollar Jr., Robert Lee Staff Sergeant 01-Sep-2005
Hampton Harris, Blake M. Staff Sergeant 15-Mar-2007
Hiram Dingler, Joshua P. Specialist 15-Aug-2005
Jasper Collins, David S. Sergeant 09-Apr-2006
Jesup Coles, Dominic R. Sergeant 26-Dec-2005
Jonesboro Jarrett, Justin R. Specialist 02-Oct-2006
Kennesaw Holt, Antoine J. Airman 1st Class 10-Apr-2004
Kingsland Haggin, Jonathon C. Sergeant 30-Jul-2005
Lilburn Long, William A. Corporal 18-Jun-2005
Lilburn Kincaid, IV, Kenneth E Private 1st Class 23-Sep-2006
Macon Courtney, Kelley L. Sergeant 30-Oct-2004
Macon Futrell, Marcus S. Sergeant 02-Dec-2005
Macon Taylor, William G. Corporal 30-Nov-2005
Marietta Fonseca, Jesus Private 1st Class 17-Jan-2005
Marietta Johnson, Stephen F. Lance Corporal 08-Oct-2006
Marietta Clayton, Hayes Captain 25-Dec-2006
Mineral Bluff Franklin, Bobby C. Staff Sergeant 20-Aug-2003
Norcross Saylor, Paul A. Sergeant 15-Aug-2005
Norcross Parson, Lonnie J. Sergeant 1st Class 02-Sep-2005
Not reported yet Chevalier, Brian L. Corporal 14-Mar-2007
Resaca Warren, Kristopher C. Lance Corporal 09-Nov-2006
Riverdale Braswell, Darren D. Civilian 07-Jan-2006
Rocky Face Edgerton, Marshall L. Specialist 11-Dec-2003
Rome Johnson, Justin W. Specialist 10-Apr-2004
Roswell Addison, Jamaal Rashard Specialist 23-Mar-2003
Roswell Quill III, Richard O. Corporal 01-Feb-2007
Savannah Korn, Edward Jason Captain 03-Apr-2003
Savannah Chisholm, Tyrone L. Sergeant 11-Nov-2005
Savannah Edwards Jr., Amos C. Sergeant 1st Class 17-Feb-2006
Savannah Dominguez, Carlos Staff Sergeant 23-Sep-2006
Sharpsburg Stokely, Michael J. Sergeant 16-Aug-2005
Snellville Travis, Philip L. Staff Sergeant 02-Dec-2005
Soperton Crockett, Michael T. Sergeant 14-Jul-2003
Stockbridge Klinesmith Jr., John K. Specialist 12-Jun-2003
Surrency Youngblood, Travis L. Petty Officer 3rd Class 21-Jul-2005
Sylvester Singletary, Channing G. Specialist 23-Jun-2006
Thompson Kinlow, James Ondra Sergeant 24-Jul-2005
Thomson Wilson, Jerry L. Command Sergeant Major 23-Nov-2003
Tunnel Hill Scott, Joshua A. Lance Corporal 23-Jan-2006
Union City Chamroeun, James Lance Corporal 28-Sep-2006
Valdosta Thomas, John Frank Sergeant 24-Jul-2005
Valdosta Shelley Sr., Ronnie L. "Rod" Sergeant 30-Jul-2005
Valdosta Hay, Dennis P. Chief Warrant Officer 29-Aug-2005
Valdosta Freeman, Benjamin L. Private 13-Oct-2003
Valdosta Hart Jr., Nathaniel Sergeant 28-Jul-2003
Valdosta Ellis, James D. Staff Sergeant 02-Oct-2006
Valdosta McSween, Joseph A. Petty Officer 1st Class 06-Apr-2007
Warrenton Pinkston, Foster Sergeant 16-Sep-2003
Washington Scarborough, Michael P. Lance Corporal 30-Oct-2004
Waycross Mercer, Chad M. Sergeant 30-Jun-2005
Whitfield Lopez, Juan Lance Corporal 21-Jun-2004
Winder Wheelous, Dexter E. Sergeant 1st Class 25-Dec-2006

GA 3rd ID out of Ft. Stewart in 2005 and 2006.
Many were killed when he was there.

If you don't mind my asking, how does he see the situation now? Does he think the troops should come home?

You'd have to ask him. He doesn't talk about it.

Straight from the Troops



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