Big Lesson from HCR - Democratic Underground

rapturedbyrobots

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Wed Mar-24-10 11:35 AM
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Big Lesson from HCR

Dems of 2010 = Repubs of 1993
Repubs of 2010 = CRAZY

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Oregone

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Wed Mar-24-10 11:41 AM
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1. Pretty much

And people = stupid

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Winterblues

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Wed Mar-24-10 11:45 AM
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2. The lesson I came away with was we got as many Republican votes with

all the added conservative crap as we would have with a pure Liberal Bill..So do what is right for the country and forget about the whiners.

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SPedigrees

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Wed Mar-24-10 12:12 PM
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3. You're leaving out the blue dog dems from your equation.

The more liberal bill that we all wish we had would not have garnered the 216 democratic votes that the current health insurance reform bill did.

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Winterblues

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Wed Mar-24-10 12:55 PM
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6. How many votes did the House Health Care Bill have?

It was way more than 216 and yet we get stuck with the Senate Bill and some Minor adjustments....

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laughingliberal

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Wed Mar-24-10 12:57 PM
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7. Yes. And the Blue Dogs in the Senate became as irrelevant as the Republicans with reconciliation

So, wonder where the public option went?

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WeekendWarrior

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Wed Mar-24-10 12:59 PM
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9. You're missing the point of the OP

Dems 2010 = Repubs 1993

There's no way a pure liberal bill would EVER be passed.

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SPedigrees

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Wed Mar-24-10 01:25 PM
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11. Thanks, Warrior. If stupid Stupak and his "dem" minions hadn't come on board

Edited on Wed Mar-24-10 01:34 PM by SPedigrees

it wouldn't have gone through.

(I think it was 220 D to 193 R, though.) OK going back for more coffee, not awake yet. I see you were referring to the rightwards shift of the dem party over recent years, not the # of votes.

But I agree, a liberal health insur reform bill would not have ever passed.

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Winterblues

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Wed Mar-24-10 01:42 PM
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13. "Nothing Ventured, Nothing Gained"...

The House Bill was pretty good. It was the Senate that screwed the pooch..A few more Liberal Senators in place of Ben Nelson and Blanch Lincoln and who knows what we may get...

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DainBramaged

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Wed Mar-24-10 12:14 PM
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4. Big lesson=don't let the Pukes get their message out front

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laughingliberal

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Wed Mar-24-10 12:57 PM
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8. 2nd big lesson = don't elect Blue Dogs. nt

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WeekendWarrior

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Wed Mar-24-10 01:00 PM
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10. Bingo.

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SPedigrees

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Wed Mar-24-10 01:31 PM
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12. In some districts, liberal democrats would not have a chance of election.

My state proudly sent Rep Welch and Sen Sanders and Leahy to Congress, but many more conservative states could never pull this off. Better a blue dog than another representative from the party of NO.

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FiveGoodMen

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Wed Mar-24-10 12:18 PM
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5. Agreed.

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