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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 11:48 AM
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The China job loss interactive map state by state

A new report shows the devastating impact that China's currency manipulation and other market-distorting trade practices have had on U.S. industry and its workers. According to an EPI report, since China joined the World Trade Organization (WTO) in 2001, 2.4 million jobs have been lost or displaced in the U.S. as a result of the burgeoning trade deficit with that nation.


See the impact in each state by using an interactive map prepared by the Alliance for American Manufacturing (AAM). Data is available for each Congressional District.


http://www.americanmanufacturing.org/china-job-loss/


EPI report: http://www.epi.org/publications/entry/bp260/

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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 12:02 PM
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1. But, but, but...free trade has benefited Americans!
All those people who lost jobs retrained and got better ones!

Oh wait.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 12:15 PM
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4. I don't believe there is
Edited on Wed Mar-24-10 12:17 PM by sharp_stick
a free trade agreement between China and the United States. As long as American's are happy buying cheap lead based shit from the Chinese there isn't a lot we can do about it. We can't compete against them on a dollar for dollar basis and they pretty much own our asses in debt payments so we'll never do too much to piss them off just in case they threaten to call the loan.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 12:21 PM
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6. You're right. There isn't. I was being sarcastic.
They slap a 20% tariff on most of our goods and we put a 2% tariff on theirs.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 12:27 PM
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8. And then they have
the gall to lecture us on how bad Google is for not allowing them to block their people from seeing bad things.

I do everything I can to not buy things made in China and it amazes me how difficult it is.
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Jkid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 06:25 PM
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12. But, but, but...free trade has benefited wealthy Americans!
Fixed!
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 12:03 PM
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2. Ohio lost 91,500...Wow....
Thanks for posting, Steve. I'm going to pass this on.

K&R
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 12:05 PM
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3. So sad. Thanks for posting this.
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FredStembottom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 12:16 PM
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5. Globalization: more like a disease than a policy!
Americans must begin again to manufacture for Americans.

China will then be forced to pay wages high enough to build internal demand.

They have billions of people to sell to.

Putting that output onto CO2 spewing barges to America is ridiculous on it's face!

Economic borders and political borders should coincide.
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benld74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 12:25 PM
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7. 'Scuse me, but isn't it the companies who MOVED their manufacturing to be blamed?
YA cant blame free trade when companies look to chep labor to increase profits rather than working process improvements with what they ahve
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Cessna Invesco Palin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 07:52 PM
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17. Why? It's much easier to blame foreigners.
Especially ones who look funny and have a dumb weird culture and are commies and eat fish heads and shit.
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MattSh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 01:30 PM
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9. Define currency manipulation...
Isn't that what EVERY country does to their money to maximize benefits for their people?

Sadly, the US has manipulated their currency into a corner and no longer has any room to manipulate. Thus the cries of China's "currency manipulation," because the Chinese are refusing to help us get out of the mess we backed ourselves in to.
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 06:13 PM
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10. Kick
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 06:23 PM
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11. K&R
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 06:57 PM
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13. dem and repub politicians have gleefully allowed jobs to leave this country.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 07:28 PM
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16. Exactly! n/t
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ChimpersMcSmirkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 07:24 PM
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14. K&R
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 07:27 PM
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15. knr - and Kucinich was the only candidate to have voted against HR 4444
even though the pressure was immense to vote for the bill.

PNTR with China: Economic and political costs greatly outweigh benefits
Jeff Faux
April 1, 2000

http://www.epi.org/publications/entry/briefingpapers_pntr_china/

"The Clinton Administration and the Republican congressional leadership are urging Congress to ratify the trade and investment pact the administration recently negotiated with China. The agreement is one of a series China is negotiating with members of the World Trade Organization (WTO) in order to join that body. Approval by Congress would, among other things, grant China Permanent Normal Trade Relations (PNTR) - thereby surrendering Congress' existing right to an annual review and renewal of the United States' trade relationship with China. In that event, the United States will give up the most important non-military leverage it has in its complex relationship with the authoritarian and unpredictable Chinese regime. Congress must now judge whether the likely costs are justified by the likely benefits. As always, the burden of proof is on those who propose a change in policy. Supporters of the agreement have claimed that it will bring two types of benefits: economic benefits in the form of expanding jobs and income for Americans, and geopolitical benefits in the form of increased U.S. influence over China's internal development. An analysis of the costs and potential benefits in these areas indicates that the trade pact's supporters have not made their case..."



There's something happening here...AFL-CIO issues page - this was very interesting!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1777600&mesg_id=1777600

I came across this page when looking back on the votes for the China Trade bill in 2000. What is interesting is how the page includes information on the China Trade bill for certain candidates and excludes vote information for other candidates. I would assume this page is compiled for the benefit of their members so why would they be selective on the voting records of the candidates? Does anyone else find this strange?


http://kucinich.house.gov/Issues/Issue/?IssueID=1466#Other trade issues: Permanent MFN status for China

"...Furthermore, giving China permanent MFN will be harmful to the U.S. economy, since the record trade deficit with China (and attendant problems such as loss of U.S. jobs, and lower average wages in the U.S.) will worsen. For 2000, the trade deficit was nearly $84 billion. Now that China has been awarded permanent MFN and is close to WTO membership, the trade deficit will worsen. In a September 30, 1999 report, the U.S. International Trade Commission concluded that China's accession to the WTO would cause "an increase in the U.S. trade deficit with China".

Conclusion -- There was no legal requirement to award China permanent MFN. Permanent MFN will be a drag on the U.S. economy and has cost us the best leverage we have to promote justice in China and throughout the world."



‘Made in China’ hazards began with ‘Made in Washington, D.C.’
Democratic Presidential candidate Kucinich charges


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3716361&mesg_id=3716361

WASHINGTON, D.C. – “Made in China” has become a health and safety warning label for American consumers following the recalls of tens of millions of Chinese-made toys, but the “real warning label should say ‘Made in Washington, D.C. by corporate lobbyists’ because the life-threatening hazards of these products were either ignored or brushed off by members of the Congress seven yeas ago,” Democratic Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich said today..."






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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 07:59 PM
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18. HR 4444 signed into law by Clinton. n/t
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-24-10 08:02 PM
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19. Dirty commies are better capitalists than we are.
The irony is overwhelming considering how much we've blown "defending" ourselves from the threat of "Red" China.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-25-10 08:29 AM
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20. Bravo!
I too have found that aspect of our relations with China fascinating. A few decades ago a politicians career would have been over had he/she suggested that US companies move jobs to China. The ability to put ideas into Americans heads by our corporate overlords and then easily remove them is an awesome thing to behold.

CheerS!
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