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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 04:22 PM
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Should a twelve-year-old who is one course away from a high school diploma...
be allowed to draw out the process of passing the course for five years, and remain entitled to food, shelter, etc supplied by his or her parents, while spending those five years studying the course, repeatedly failing it with slightly higher failing marks each time, and eventually passing it at age seventeen?

Some participants on DU might be tempted to say "yes" on the grounds that someone who graduates from high school at age seventeen isn't unusually old for someone who is graduating from high school.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 04:23 PM
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1. Are you trying to draw an analogy?
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NotThisTime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 04:24 PM
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3. Sounds that way
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 04:32 PM
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11. No, I'm trying to ask a question.
Edited on Fri Mar-26-10 04:36 PM by Boojatta
I hope that there are some answers that rely upon general principles, and that people who supply the answers formulate those general principles. Of course, it's possible that a general principle might allow one to arrive at answers to questions other than the question that I asked at the beginning of this thread. Thus, the discussion might, in a natural way, include topics that could -- if there were no reference to general principles -- seem off-topic. A similar kind of thing happens when someone is trying to draw an analogy: people may be motivated to discuss some topics that would have seemed off-topic if there hadn't been an attempt to draw an analogy.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 05:25 PM
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21. Try harder.
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 04:24 PM
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2. Are there many 12 year olds in that situation?
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 04:24 PM
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4. why would they do that?
Graduate or not... the kid is still a minor until 18. I dont get it.
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 04:25 PM
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5. 12 year old is a minor, diploma or not; parents must support
I remember when I first started smoking pot, too.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 04:29 PM
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8. LOL at the pot comment
sure seems that way huh lol
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 04:26 PM
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6. kid could graduate or not at 12 and still be entitled to food, shelter, ect until 18. your point?nt
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 04:29 PM
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7. Why would getting a high school diploma
at age 12 preclude the kid being entitled to his parents support? He's still 12.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 05:09 PM
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14. Agreed, and they are so not ready to be adults!
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 04:31 PM
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9. Something tells me this is about that 13 year old in college
I haven't followed that thread or the arguments, but this sounds like it might be related to that.

:shrug:
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 04:31 PM
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10. Jesus, you ask some pointless bizarrely incoherent shit sometimes.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 05:40 PM
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24. I read it as performance art.
It blows me away.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 05:54 PM
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25. Painters have Dali. Writers have Boojatta.
Edited on Fri Mar-26-10 05:55 PM by lumberjack_jeff
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 05:59 PM
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26. Sometimes I think I am getting it.
But then my brain kicks me in the eyeball.
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Rabrrrrrr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 11:42 PM
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38. Unfortunately, there's nothing to 'get'. It's just empty rambling nonsense
masquerading as an attempt at depth beyond mortal comprehension.

But, for the most part, always the meaningless gibberish of the untreatably insane.
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 09:36 PM
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35. I get the sense you're trying to say something here.
:rofl:
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HughBeaumont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 09:41 PM
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36. Boojatta got NOTHING on RBTexLa.
If there were ever a "no get", "is this a big intellectual put-on or am I just stupid and missing the point" or "why the shit is he still here" to be said, it'd be about that guy and his posts.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 04:34 PM
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12. That exact same thing happened to me.
At age 12, I failed the analogy course.
At 13, I failed again, but I began to develop some understanding of irony.
At 14, I failed again, but learned a bit about cynicism.
At 15, I discovered a sense of humor. Analogy? Still not yet.
At 16, again failure, now I'm developing apathy.
At 17, success! Now I know analogy like leading a horse to water off a duck's back.

At age 48, I still struggle. Best I could find is this;
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 05:18 PM
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17. That's your problem. Take the pancake off of your head.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 05:28 PM
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22. In my school, 12 year old HS seniors were required to wear them.
Force of habit.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 04:40 PM
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13. The law is that you are responsible for the kid until they're 18, not until graduation from HS
So this child is entitled to food, shelter, etc. whether he or she fails or passes, and I'd tell the kid that they have no need to fail the class.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 05:21 PM
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20. Each state is different interpreting when a child is emancipated.
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The_Commonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 05:13 PM
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15. I don't know where you get this crap...
And I don't really care!
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Spike89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 05:18 PM
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16. So, is this your 1st attempt to fail the OP-writing course? n/t
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 05:20 PM
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18. Oh no. Far from the first.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-27-10 12:31 AM
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40. LOL n/t
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 05:21 PM
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19. No still a minor
and for the same reason the college should not have to let him go on the trip if his age makes it a problem.

He's still immature no matter what his intellectual capacity.
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EvolveOrConvolve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 05:39 PM
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23. Um, I don't think education is a factor in whether a minor child receives support or not
Your question is interesting but worthless. You imply a definition for "entitle" that includes education as a prerequisite. The real world doesn't work that way.
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 06:22 PM
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28. If the things that you judge to be interesting include some worthless things...
then why advertise your judgment of what is or isn't interesting?
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EvolveOrConvolve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 06:42 PM
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29. I don't consider you worthless or your post worthless
Just the question. You can't get the answers you want if you don't ask valid questions.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 06:11 PM
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27. The student should graduate and go on to college on a scholarship
The only person I knew who got a PhD by age 21 seemed pretty well adjusted.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 06:49 PM
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30. POSTING IN EPIC THREAD! n/t
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Boojatta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 07:44 PM
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31. How did you arrive at the conclusion that it's epic?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 09:26 PM
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33. The replies. n/t
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 07:51 PM
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32. So he'd be failing every class for five years, except for the last one?
That'd be one fucked up GPA.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 09:29 PM
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34. Sure.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 10:31 PM
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37. HS diploma or not, a 12 year old is still a minor
getting a diploma does not equal emancipation. Sorry.

dg
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-26-10 11:47 PM
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39. A 12 year old is a minor and not able to make a living or care for himself...
So he should finish his course and find a college to go to.

California law requires he stay in school, and he is not taking someones spot by doing so. But, he would be wasting his time since he would need to be a genius to have done what you say.
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