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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 09:13 AM
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WTF is wrong with Chris Mathews. He keeps asking if Obama can "cut his losses"
Edited on Sun Mar-28-10 09:14 AM by live love laugh
in November because of the resounding victory he just realized. ?????

Despite all of the success that Obama has realized, the "liberal media" frames it so that it translates into a loss. Oh, and Kelly O'Donnell and Howard Fineman are eager to agree that the "angry" conservatives are "more energized."

Fuck them. I hate their attempts to poison people's minds. They have no idea what will happen in November. It's March dammit.

Furthermore: with the victory that we are celebrating as well as more mortgage help and job focus, there should be no losses. They are setting the stage for theft.
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Mayberry Machiavelli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 09:15 AM
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1. Yeah it would be nice if they could at least attempt to portray things objectively.
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uponit7771 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 09:15 AM
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2. Fuckin David Gregory is citing polls from the 13 of March!!!
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 09:16 AM
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3. Tweety might be the dumbest motherfucker on TV
After beating the shit out of Grayson for Grayson's postulating that the HCR would be passed by reconciliation, and then not apologizing for being DEAD WRONG, Tweety's off on a new tangent. Wotta moran...
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SolidGold Donating Member (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 09:20 AM
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4. sometimes being pesimistic is good
it makes for lifting surprises when the win comes.

the other thing is that the left is so used to defeat after the last 8 years that they don't have much self esteem. HCR was a boost to the dems and libs esteem - but they need a lot more.
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 09:21 AM
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5. We're 'used to defeat'?
Really...

Welcome to DU! I look forward to more progressive posts like this one.
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 09:32 AM
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9. You're a psychiatrist? "Low self esteem"? Really???? nt
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ecstatic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 10:34 AM
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18. Or it could lead to a self fulfilling prophecy
:eyes:
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 09:22 AM
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6. Not everyone see's HCR as a 'victory'
just sayin'...
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 09:30 AM
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8. That's obvious. Gas lines wouldn't be cut, white powder wouldn't be mailed, if terrorist RW hatred
Edited on Sun Mar-28-10 09:31 AM by live love laugh
were not incited by RW leadership.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 09:35 AM
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10. It goes beyond RW thugs and their leaders
there are also progressives and independents who don't see this as reform.
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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 09:38 AM
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11. Obama himself doesn't call it reform. What's the point? nt
Edited on Sun Mar-28-10 09:39 AM by live love laugh
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lxlxlxl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 09:27 AM
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7. the whole year has been a promotion of the tea party as a rebrand of the GOP
our liberal media at work
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 09:59 AM
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12. Obama is still holding his own in approval ratings
and actually doing remarkably well considering everything but he is not going to see any significant gain in approval until folks start feeling more confidence in the economy. Health care reform, immigration, new banking regulations and troops returning from Iraq are really just sideshows compared to what has happened to jobs and the economy. I am not saying these issues are not critical and do not effect the economy because they are and they do but Obama is not going to break away from the upper forties/low fifties approval levels with the economy being as it is right now. Once the economy starts making significant improvements that the average Joe on the street can feel then the tea-bagger movement will start losing steam.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 10:01 AM
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13. "Angry" conservatives are "more energized"?
Edited on Sun Mar-28-10 10:02 AM by rocktivity
No, it's more like "defeated" conservatives are more "embarrassed." Also keep in mind that the MORE they "act out," which is EXACTLY what they're doing, the SMALLER that base gets.

:eyes:
rocktivity
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 10:07 AM
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14. At the present time there is a lot of anger about the HCR bill
maybe it can be turned around by November, I don't think so.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 10:27 AM
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15. There is less anger about it than Cable News and he Republicans would like you to believe
They are acting as if the Tea Party represent the majority of Americans. They don't.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 10:32 AM
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16. I am judging it just by my own personnel
observation, there is a lot of anger from Democrats and of course Republicans (they are always pissed about something anyway).
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-29-10 02:00 PM
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21. Last polling I saw before showed 3% Liberal Dems were upset.
That is not a "lot of anger". DU isn't representative of reality, it is a bubble.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 10:34 AM
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17. Sounds like you DON'T have a problem with making predictions this far ahead...
...you just have a problem with predictions that your team isn't doing so well.

If a football team is favored by 14 points and then loses it's star quarterback, it's perfectly reasonable for the news to ask whether the change will move the "line" on the game and by how much.

We may not like it, but pre-HCR we were headed toward a big loss in November. Big enough that it wasn't unreasonable to ask whether a change in control in one or both houses was possible (a year ago it would have been unthinkable... in fact we were expected to pick up a seat or two in the Senate).

Right now (and things could change), "there should be no loses" is a pipe dream.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 10:46 AM
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19. They are also "framing" Obama & HCR as "Liberal"
The Media has been extremely successful at defining Obama as representative of "The Liberal Left", completely marginalizing everything more Liberal than Obama who, in reality, represents the conservative wing of the Democratic Party.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-28-10 10:50 AM
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20. Maybe they're planning
for the huge amount of election malfeasance coming in November.
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