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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:12 AM
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Bush: "Even if you thought it was a mistake to go into Iraq...far greater mistake to pull out now''

http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/news_theswamp/2007/05/white_houe_ther.html#more

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"It's a tough fight,'' Bush said of the war in Iraq this morning in a speech to general contractors in Washington. "It's been a difficult year for the American people, and I understand that…. Even if you thought it was a mistake to go into Iraq,'' Bush said, "it would be a far greater mistake to pull out now.''

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The president insists that the violence underway in Iraq is "a systematic attack on an entire nation,'' as opposed the civil war that many have called it. The question for the U.S., the president said, is not taking sides in a civil war, but continuing to fight the same enemy that attacked the U.S. on Sept. 11, 2001. "I strongly believe it's in our international interests to stay in the fight,'' he said to applause from the contractors.
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Beelzebud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:18 AM
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1. The greatest mistake Bush Sr. made was not pulling out of Barb.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:19 AM
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2. Delicious and idiotic.
George wishes to have his cake and eat it too.
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Raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:20 AM
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3. This is what I hear all the time from people..."I know it was a
mistake to go there but if we leave, there will be a bloodbath".

We need to educate these people that American forces can leave and be replaced with an international peace keeping force, but in order to do that we have to exercise some diplomacy, a concept that the Bush Administration abhors. And we have to get the factions fighting in Iraq to sit down with eachother...something they won't do as long as we are there.

There needs to be more discussion of this in Congress and on the street! The people who feel this way are well meaning people who have just swallowed the Bush line. We have to show them that there is a way out of Iraq without a bloodletting.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:24 AM
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7. I doubt any peace keeping force is coming
Sure maybe 3-4 years ago you could have gotten a peace keeping force in. No one wants to touch this thing anymore.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:36 AM
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15. You are absolutely right.
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:36 AM
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16. I don't think we'll see an international force anytime soon.
Iraq is our nightmare and the rest of the world is not that amenable to bailing us out. Especially since shrub and his cronies spent so much time insulting and bullying them everytime they offered a compromise. I'm afraid the world community will simply tell us to FOAD and honestly, who can blame them?

I'm afraid we haven't seen the end of the bloodshed in Iraq no matter what we do, it's not going to get any better for a long long time. I can only hope that there isn't a new Taliban government in place that we will have to get rid of in 10 years.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:21 AM
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4. Official spin--NOT a civil war. The Sunnis and Shia are best buddies,
who need our help to rid their nation of Al Qaeda and other foreign fighters. A worthy cause once again--we're fighting the perpetrators of 9/11! Thank God Al Qaeda poured into Iraq to give us a real enemy to fight, instead of just those pesky "insurgents". Wonder how many will buy this bullshit.
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Johonny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:22 AM
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5. He doesn't even understand this war
I sure hope he's trying to lie in those statements. I'd hate to think 4+ years into this thing he is so stupid that he still doesn't grasp what he's fighting over there.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:24 AM
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6. he can go fuck off. His arrogance is despicable.
Edited on Wed May-02-07 10:25 AM by alyce douglas
:puke:

he keeps on bringing up 9/11 and Iraq, catapulting that propaganda george?? he is disgusting.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:25 AM
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8. probably not applause from the contractors so much as it was the sound of them
rubbing their palms together over the prospect of some big ass government assignments.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:25 AM
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9. and didn't he acknowledge that some of the insurgents had NO interest in fighting us here
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:27 AM
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10. Oh boy! So Bush is saying "I sucked you bastards into this war, I forced you to sacrifice
...blood and treasure, I used lies and deceit to keep us there way longer than necessary, I endangered our country's long term security, our constitutional democracy and our general economic welfare. Now if we pull out of this war I'll look bad and that's not acceptable because I'll look like a failure!"

Tough shit shrub*, you have been a disastrous president and it's time for you to get out of the way. Retract the veto or we impeach.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:27 AM
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11. What are the chances he's actually mentally retarded? - n/t
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:33 AM
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he is psychologically unfit to hold office
can't we start bringing this out in the open, and openly tell our Reps and Senators. He is insane.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:36 AM
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17. Too many people around him would be implicated if it came out...
...either for knowingly allowing a madman to hold the highest office of the United States of America or for being likewise insane.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:52 AM
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18. implication is good for these thugs.
they are criminals.
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porphyrian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:53 AM
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19. You don't have to convince me. I want the lot impeached and tried. - n/t
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:30 AM
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12. Bush still believes that there's gold at the bottom of the hole he keeps digging.
Despite all of the evidence that it's really a grave.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:33 AM
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13. ANd we're suppose to put
any credence in what he says because____?
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:35 AM
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14. He is right. There will be a bloodbath -- whether we leave or not.
What we need is an international force that replaces our troops in Iraq and is much larger than the contingent we put in there.

Of course, that would mean that our oil companies would not be able to enforce agreements regarding their takeover of the Iraq oil resources -- which would mean we would have to start getting serious very fast about developing and using alternative energy resources. And there's the real rub. Bush would have to snub his nose at his core supporters from the oil industry. That's what really scares him.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:54 AM
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20. an international force like NATO, which is being pummeled in
Afghanistan right now from the Taliban.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 10:56 AM
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21. If we get out of Iraq, we can double our forces in Afghanistan.
We aren't achieving anything in Iraq. The real problem is in Afghanistan -- and Pakistan from what I can tell.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 12:25 PM
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22. Pakistan is very toxic too.
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-02-07 01:20 PM
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23. if rape is inevitable, then why not lie back and enjoy it?
Is that what you're telling us, shithead?
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