The Catholic Church is guilty...

Sorry folks, this is no longer just a problem with a few bad eggs. The entire Church is not only guilty of conspiracy in covering up these acts, but in moving these Pedophile priests to other paces where they could molest more children the church has taken part in a conspiracy to give child molesters a safe haven to commit their crimes.

The worst part of it is, they feel no obligation, and no sense of remorse. They are running around like Republicans trying to blame the media and the victims. :puke:

so how can they do anything wrong??

Catholic nuns saved my mom and her sibs from hunger when they were political refugees in Mexico City in the 40s. A Catholic priest helped my mom into recovery and made sure her kids were safely placed for the duration in the 60s.

On the other hand, my dear favorite uncle was raped as a child by a priest in Mexico. And of course, in 1945, there were no consequences.

This has to stop now.

represents the kingdumb of god.

Secular shit really cannot apply to them, because everything they do is god-supported and blessed.

Forgiveness? OK, so in one temporary secular slice in time, (the here and now) with their temporary countries, their short-termed earthly legal systems, their ungodly rules, and worst of all, secular judges, some country tries to impose itself on the Church. But, remember, this is the Church which takes a couple of hundred years to find Galileo innocent. It holds 50 and 100 year planning meetings. (the jesuits just had theirs a mere 20 yrs ago) it plans for the eventual fall of secular nations (so afr, it has been right about that), and it deals with god on a personal basis. Their first, middle, and last reaction is: Your secular courts have no jurisdiction.

How rude and silly it is for secular legal systems to try to force their way into church matters? The Church knows best. The Church has a superior understanding of god. The Church has a superior legal system, and owes absolutely no duty or responsibility to any secular legal system. Even better, the Church is a nation-state, and its soldiers are ambassadors, and are protected by diplomatic immunity and sovereign rules, not the petty criminal rules in some secular country.

The framing we see is very different from the framing the Church sees. They see it as them (representing god) against a secular world. If godly forgiveness is sought, it is granted, and the secular folks simply have no power to do anything about it.

As a catholic this pains me. Now I have to always qualify that I am interested in the catholic faith, but not the church. What the heirarchy has done was short sighted and immoral all in the name of protecting the church. If only they would have acted with honesty and openess they would have achieved the protection of the church, the children and had done the right thing. It really pisses me off that the bishops, cardinals, and even pope a have undermined the integrity of the wonderful members of the priesthood, nuns, borthers ecetera ( yes, despite what is said on these forums the church can be a voice of social justice and progressivism) who serve their communities piusly and have helped the populace.

I had a long chat with a priest just last week. He agreed with me that the doctrine of social justice is certainly dying in the church.