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rgbecker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 06:50 PM
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About Birth Certificates, Natural born Citizens and the Presidency?
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Its my understanding that a child born of an American citizen, even if abroad at the time of birth, is automatically a citizen...that is to say, a natural born citizen. So if my wife gives birth while we are touring Spain this summer, our child will be a citizen. Is that correct? I want to make sure in case the little tyke wants to run for president some day. And isn't it the case that people are coming to America pregnant to have their child in America so that child will automatically be a "Natural born American", a so called anchor baby? Just wondering what you know about all this?
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beyurslf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 07:18 PM
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1. Babies born to citizens of the US are automatically citizens of the US.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 07:32 PM
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2. It's whatever the US Supreme Court says
Had McLame won, it could have gotten interesting in the courts, since he was born on a Panamanian military base. Mose agree it would have held up, since it was a US base.

If however, one parent is (let's say) Italian, and the other American, what about this scenario: Suppose an American man goes to Italy to college for a year, and has a relationship and kid with an Italian woman. Nine months later, the baby is born in Italy. A month after birth, the man decides to finish college in the states, and brings the baby and his mom (who now is his wife, they got married shortly before the baby was born) to America for good. Can that baby, once he's 35, run for president? My guess would be no, even if he came to the US at the age of one month.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 08:51 PM
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3. I don't see why he couldn't.
Assuming the Supreme Court didn't interpret the Constitution to mean a President must be born on US soil, but merely that the President be a naturally born citizen who had earned citizenship either from being born in the US or from jus sanguinis (inheriting it from a parent), there's no reason that child wouldn't be eligible to become president. The child is ineligible only if the Court rules that to be eligible for President, one must be born in the United States, and that inheriting citizenship from a parent is not enough.

It would be necessary to inherit that citizenship from only one parent--not both. If either of your parents is a US citizen, so are you--doesn't matter if the other is from Mars.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 08:53 PM
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4. Rabies-Mc5PLANEs was born in Panama. n/t
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 11:28 PM
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7. Canal Zone, though, no?
US protectorate at the time?
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 09:00 PM
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5. Make sure you wife or you lived in the US long enough
I'd check on the laws on that. I recall from the debate on Obama that if he had been born in Kenya, he'd only be a citizen if his mother lived in the US the requisite number of years at a certain age, etc. and it seemed rather complicated.
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nilram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-30-10 11:26 PM
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6. both of my friend's kids were born in Singapore and
they said they had to do something, I think at the embassy, to get them recognized as "Natural born" US citizens, so that either one of them could be elected President. Otherwise, they'd be US citizens, but wouldn't be electable.
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rgbecker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-01-10 09:14 AM
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8. Since I posted this question, I have done a little reading...you might enjoy this...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_born

Thanks for the input...interesting stories.
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