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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 10:18 AM
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Kicked out for breastfeeding? Saint Paul, MN News
http://www.twincities.com/ci_14826344?source=most_viewed

A St. Paul woman says although state law is on her side, an eatery forced her to leave for feeding her son. The Maplewood restaurant says her fiance's behavior was the problem.
By John Brewer

Bethany Morton, shown Monday with her son Dawson at their St. Paul home, said she contacted La Leche League for more guidance after being asked to cover up or leave when she breastfed Dawson at a restaurant recently. Maplewood police Lt. David Kvam said his office received a call from a restaurant employee reporting that two customers were yelling at staff. The incident started, according to the dispatcher s log, as employees were talking to the customers about breastfeeding and flashing the customers. (Pioneer Press: Chris Polydoroff)
Bethany Morton didn't breastfeed her first child, now 3, but she decided to with her second child.

She looked up the state statute on breastfeeding in public and learned that she could feed her child basically whenever and wherever she wanted, she said.

Her research came in handy Easter weekend when, at incidents in two cities, she was asked to cover up while breastfeeding. In the most serious case, police were called.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 10:20 AM
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1. Here's the Minnesota Statute:
State statute 145.905 says, "A mother may breast-feed in any location, public or private, where the mother and child are otherwise authorized to be, irrespective of whether the nipple of the mother's breast is uncovered during or incidental to the breast-feeding."
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SoCalNative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 10:25 AM
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2. Sorry
pump before you go or stay home.

It's time to overturn these laws.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 10:30 AM
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3. You should stay home if you're afraid of running into this situation.
A nursing mom should be welcome anywhere.
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recoveringrepublican Donating Member (779 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 10:32 AM
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4. Pumping isn't as easy as you think. I had no let down when I tried to pump
add nipple confusion into the mix. My kids would not take a bottle...ever. That said, while I agree with the law, I rarely fed in public, only because of my own comfort.
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 10:41 AM
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12. Of course, it doesn't matter whether it's easy or not
In a civilized world, moms should be able to feed their babies. They should not be subject to house arrest for the duration of the breastfeeding years.

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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 10:32 AM
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5. I prefer the Don't Look if You're Bothered rule.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 03:10 PM
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45. And that's because you're a reasonable person. n/t
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 10:34 AM
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6. And we're off
:popcorn:
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:50 AM
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37. It looks like it was just a hit-and-run.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 12:03 PM
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39. What? I've been in the thread from the beginning.
I realize that these threads sometimes go in unexpected directions, but it happened. It's news. It's worth discussing.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 12:17 PM
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41. That was in response to the popcorn response to the "Sorry" post.
Edited on Tue Apr-06-10 12:18 PM by HuckleB
Since the "Sorry" poster hasn't been back, I am presuming that was a hit-and-run response.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 12:22 PM
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43. Ah, I see. Never mind, then.
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 10:36 AM
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8. If you can't stand the sight of a child breastfeeding turn away and don't look.
Overturn the laws? How about removing your head from your sphincter?
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 10:40 AM
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10. hopefully that was sarcasm.
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 10:42 AM
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13. Self Delete--repeat
Edited on Tue Apr-06-10 10:43 AM by lolly
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 10:42 AM
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14. That's the mother's call, not yours.
Personally, I would find breast pumps unnatural and dehumanizing. (But that's beside the point, as I never had kids.)
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sharp_stick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 10:51 AM
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15. Those darn boobies are just
Edited on Tue Apr-06-10 10:52 AM by sharp_stick
so terrifying aren't they. Might jump out at you without warning.

Too bad if some woman wants to feed her damned baby you might be forced to glance at a bare tit for a second or two.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:13 AM
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18. Do you wear a shirt at all times?
It's time to overturn the laws that allow one gender to go shirtless, but not the other. Don't like it? Don't look.
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:17 AM
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20. You don't like it. You leave.
If I was running an eatery (or any other business) and you came to me with that complaint, that is exactly what I'd tell you to do. And your photo would go up right at the top of the "Not welcome here" rogues gallery.
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:29 AM
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25. You can leave if it bothers you.
The breastfeeding mother trumps any icky feeling you may get. Or you know, just don't fucking watch.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:38 AM
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27. It seems like a personal problem for you. Not for me or most people I know.
I've been near women who have been breastfeeding before and it's never bothered me.

In fact most of the women have been courteous enough to ask if it bothered me, they'd go elsewhere. I replied, jokingly, "It's no skin off my teeth."

It always amazes me that my fellow men can be so turned on by looking at naked female breasts in magazines, movies, or in public. However, should those breasts have infants suckling at them, suddenly they get disgusted? Illogical.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:40 AM
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29. dupe.
Edited on Tue Apr-06-10 11:40 AM by 4lbs
dupe.
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:41 AM
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30. crap. delete again.
Edited on Tue Apr-06-10 11:42 AM by 4lbs
.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:49 AM
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35. Looks like you are having the same problem I had yesterday.
I lost count of how many duplicate posts popped up when I replied to threads yesterday. :P
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Tailormyst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:48 AM
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33. So what so you think will happen if you briefly see a portion of breast?
Will you faint? run screaming? vomit? And what is it about you that makes you unable to look away? Why does a feeding child disturb you?

You should really think hard about WHY you are so bothered by it.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 12:02 PM
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38. Perhaps he's afraid he'll turn to stone. Oh, noes! It's already starting.
:rofl:
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 12:19 PM
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42. That's bullshit.
What a prudish attitude for the 21st century.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 03:39 PM
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47. So the needs of nursing mothers sould be ignored because of a few prudes?
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LeftyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 08:11 PM
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48. If you don't want to see babies eat, I suggest using a blanket.
I'm sure any mother would be happy to provide a flannel square which you may place over your head whenever you might be offended by the babies existing.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 08:28 PM
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49. lol!
That's too damn funny!
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 10:35 AM
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7. For those who don't go to the link, this was at an
Old Country Buffet, well-known as a fine dining establishment here in Minnesota.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:15 AM
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19. Should have gone to Olive Garden
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:19 AM
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22. Yabbut, you can't fill your plate six times at OG.
I can't eat at these buffet places. The people feeding there are not appealing to me.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:37 AM
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26. Endless salad and breadsticks!
I know what you mean about those buffet places. Yech.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:39 AM
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28. Yup. The gluttony puts me right off my feed.
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:42 AM
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31. Who the hell cares. Child screams in restaurant, theatre, etc. ...
...parent may be asked to remove them until they have quieted. Other patron makes a stink they may be afforded the same privilege, and in any establishment of mine that would be the choice offered anyone complaining about another patron breastfeeding. And given that being adult implies a great deal more self control than a child, anyone choosing not to shut up immediately, would not be given the option of returning. EVER!
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 10:37 AM
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9. Americans - Still Terrified of Boobs
FFS....
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 10:41 AM
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11. Isn't it amazing? The corollary to that is that people don't seem
able to not look at something. If it's there - they must stare. Fascinating.

I don't know, but when I go to a restaurant, I'm eating, not scoping out the rest of the room.
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 10:56 AM
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16. It seems to be all about nipples.
x
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:21 AM
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23. Oddly enough, it's OK for men to display their nipples.
How strange.
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:10 AM
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17. Yet another example of humans going against nature.
She should be able to feed her baby whenever and wherever. Period. No ifs, ands, ors, or buts about it. It is NATURAL.

Any human who has a problem with it should take it up with Mother Nature, herself, but only after I cook some :popcorn: to watch the smack down of biblical proportions.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:17 AM
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21. I think it has to do with a denial of our animal nature.
Some folks are alarmed when they realize that we are a species of mammal. Encountering breastfeeding is an unequivocal reminder of that inconvenient fact. It's oddly disturbing to people who think humans are somehow different from the other mammals that populate our planet.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:23 AM
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24. +1
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4lbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:43 AM
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32. The disgusted response from people is illogical.
It always amazes me that, on the one hand, people can be so turned on by looking at naked female breasts in magazines, movies, or in public. They defend it as an art form, and freedom of speech or expression.

However, should those breasts have infants suckling at them, suddenly they get disgusted?

Illogical.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:49 AM
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36. +1
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 12:24 PM
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44. Completely, yes.
And I've been amazed--no, astonished--at the attitudes of some local liberals towards breastfeeding in public.

BTW, I BF all four of our children in public (and discreetly, so as not to arouse shouting by strangers in my baby's face). We never had any issues in rural areas but lots of odd stares in cities. And I refused to BF our babies in a nasty bathroom.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 11:48 AM
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34. In a world where far too many people can't handle a human mother feeding her kid...
... in a manner given to humans by biology and evolution, is it any wonder that we also face bizarre threats from the likes of Tea Party Central?
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 12:05 PM
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40. Go into a restaurant and bring your own food and be upset when asked to leave..
Should be feeding that baby hamburgers...:sarcasm:
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-06-10 03:36 PM
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46. This anti-breastfeeding BS is so stupid.
:banghead:
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