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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 04:02 AM
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Gay Indian professor found dead after students film him having sex
A gay professor at India's Aligarh Muslim University has been found dead after his students and a television crew broke into his home and filmed him having sex with a man.

police believe he may have committed suicide, although the results of a post mortem examination were inconclusive.

He was suspended from his job and asked to leave his college apartment after the sting, in which he was filmed having sex with a rickshaw puller.

The 62-year-old was reinstated after a high court revoked the university's decision.

The Indian Express reported it had spoken to Siras on Monday evening after the suspension was lifted.

"I want to go to America, I want to teach them Marathi. Not the literature, the language. America is the only place where I will be free to be gay, he was quoted as saying.

http://chaisamosa.net/index.php/latest-news/201004102146/gay-indian-professor-found-dead-after-students-film-him-having-sex/menu-id-363html

those who broke into his home and invaded his privacy should be charged. and they should have been the ones kicked out of the college.
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DangerousRhythm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 04:08 AM
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1. That's horrific.
This sort of thing just breaks my heart. :(
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 04:23 AM
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2. broke into his home & filmed him? jesus. his fucking students & a tv crew?
those people should be jailed.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 06:08 AM
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4. They should be jailed
They are scumbags.
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Echo In Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 06:47 AM
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6. +1000
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 06:05 AM
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3. uh, "the sting"?
so that's what you call a group of people illegally entering your house these days?
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 09:35 AM
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18. +100
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 12:00 PM
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31. +1
Doesn't that wording say so very much... *sigh*
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 06:35 AM
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5. Ridiculous, cruel and ignorant. Films should be made of those invading to
see if everyone of their sexual adventures fits an exact mold of perfection and normality. And they should also be charged for crimes. And, as you say, "they should have been the ones kicked out of the college."
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 06:54 AM
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7. The experience of being fortunate enough to enroll in a university,
a principal dividend of which is to expand one's base of knowledge and learn how the world is and how it works and what wonders it holds, does not appear to have taken hold in this group of thugs.

"...and a television crew" is an especially offensive part of this story.

They transgressed against another's privacy and violated conditions of his identity in the home invasion.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 07:12 AM
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8. How horrible.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 07:14 AM
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9. Good grief....that's horrific.
nt
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freeplessinseattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 07:32 AM
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10. tragic beyond belief
what in the name of all that is holy is wrong with those MoFos that violated and persecuted this poor, dear man. such a shame he never did make it to a more enlightened place to live.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 07:41 AM
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11. Unbelievable!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 09:00 AM
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12. Instead, we'll get his students through one of those special Visas.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 09:03 AM
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13. disgusting and just plain evil...nt
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 09:04 AM
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14. Shot himself in the head, twice
:argh:
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 10:20 AM
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27. Where did you read that? Even though there are instances of
a person having to fire twice in a suicide, they're obviously quite rare. That makes me wonder if it was an actual murder rather than a suicide brought about by those assholes.
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:50 PM
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33. That's a standing line used to suggest that the "suicide" was in fact not a
suicide.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 09:05 AM
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15. Horrendous.
:-(
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LibertyLover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 09:22 AM
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17. Something else bothers me about the story -
the professor's partner is identified as a ricksaw puller. A number of my colleagues are Indian and I have interesting, and sometimes disturbing, conversations with them regarding home. Just as certain words here are coded, like "welfare queens" for example, so too is "rickshaw puller". It implies that the professor's partner was from a lower caste. Indian society has problems with both homosexuality and relationships between individuals of differing castes. I wonder if Prof. Siras' students were upset both by the fact that he was homosexual and that he was having a relationship with a lower caste individual? That does not excuse their actions one iota of course and they and the tv crew should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:58 AM
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30. i noticed that too. vibe kind of like interracial sex in the 50s.
but at least tv crews didn't break into your house then.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 09:37 AM
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19. "America is the only place where I will be free to be gay"?
just as well he killed himself over there. The disappointment he experienced over here would probably have driven him to it anyway. He saved himself the plane ride.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 10:06 AM
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22. .
:hug:

Someday I'd like to hear more about your experiences since it's obvious you haven't had an easy time of it.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 10:24 AM
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28. Actually, I've Had a Remarkably Easy Time Of It
I experienced the standard homophobia when I was in the Navy, but I wasn't out at the time, and was not really a target. I experienced a truly personal anti-homo event several years ago when I was told I was in the "wrong bar", and violence was implied if I didn't leave. But in general, I've had few personalized experiences with homophobia, largely due to three factors: 1) I'm a powerfully built, not overly flamboyant man, 2) I live and work in a liberal part of the United States, with friends and family who are all very supportive, and 3) I came out relatively late in life (mid-30's).

While I have little personal experience with in-your-face, one on one homophobia, my anger with America's treatment of her GLBT citizens is certainly based on personal experience: my rights are being denied every day. I am literally a second class citizen. That would be more than enough to enrage any civic-minded person. Add to that the constant stories of my brothers and sisters being beaten, fired, evicted, disinherited, vilified, ostracized, and murdered, and there's plenty of reason to be pissed at this country.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 10:38 AM
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29. I understand. And I agree with you.
I have a sister who is one of the evil people who vilify gays. And a brother-in-law (married to a different sister) is the same way.

I've tried my very best to change their minds. Nothing has worked. I'm horrified and ashamed that members of my own family are like that. Until they started speaking out against GLBTs I had thought that reason and common decency would win over ignorance and hatred. Now I know differently and it frightens and sickens me.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 09:54 AM
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20. Damn, that is just fucked up.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 10:03 AM
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21. In essence they murdered him, plain and simple. If there's a hell
they should burn in it.

We would have been honored to have that professor come to America.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 10:09 AM
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23. Ah, India's first gay Royal also says they killed him with their actions. nt
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 10:09 AM
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24. THIS is what the right wing christians wants for our country as well. They are
probably celebrating this story.They would see nothing wrong with what was done to the professor, he asked for it, according to their philosophy.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 10:12 AM
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25. Charged? Those assholes should be horse-whipped! n/t
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 10:16 AM
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26. Update: His cell phone is missing. It was at the scene but now it's gone.
Edited on Tue Apr-13-10 10:19 AM by DevonRex

snip
In a curious twist to the controversy surrounding the death of a gay AMU professor, his cellphone has gone missing even as a case of criminal trespass has been lodged against six persons, including four senior AMU officials.

"We are trying to trace the missing cellphone," City Superintendent of Police Maan Singh Chauhan said.

The cellphone was said to be lying near the feet of Professor Srinivas Ramchander Siras on Wednesday when police broke open the door of his room which was locked from inside.

snip

http://news.rediff.com/report/2010/apr/10/twist-to-amu-professor-death-case.htm

Disclaimer: I don't know anything about this site, whether it is okay for DU or not. But this particular article seemed pretty good.
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 12:08 PM
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32. Well if he had been living in America
my friends in the LGBT community would say they are still not able to be free to be gay in America. This should not be a factor in this day and age. I'm have nothing but best wishes for the grieving family. And in other countries this is the norm for gay people to live in fear of being found out,their vary lives depend on it. You still have that type of thought hear in America.
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